and in just a moment, we'll talk to maya macguineas. she's president of the committee for a responsible federal budget. but first, here's the latest on what's going on with the deficit talks. >> hi, good. >> susie: well, this is really a nail biter now, isn't it. what do you think is going to happen next? >> well, it's been a rollercoaster of a couple weeks and it certainly ended on one of the highest rollercoaster hills today request leader boehner walking out of discussions with the president. obviously these conversations have to continue. i remain -- i continue to believe that it's pretty likely that we're not going to go past that august 2nd deadline, certainly not more than a little bit. they can't come to a deal whether it's large or small. it increases the likelihood that something really damaging may happen here and we may not lift the debt ceiling in a timely way. this is tough political negotiations and obviously they're having two sides a very difficult time coming together soodz sues -- >> susie: until this latest developme