as i mentioned maya wiley standing by on the law. on this topic, i want to go one on one to a special guest who knows this congress well and some of these individuals that i just quoted, that's former united states senator barbara boxer. thanks for being here. >> thank you, ari, what an opening. i'm literally kind of speechless, which is bad. i have to get over that because it's stunning what you have revealed, and you have laid it out, and there was a violent attack on our capitol on january 6th. we know what we saw. we knew it then, all these republicans and right wing commentators knew it then, and they decided to step back and not tell the truth, and the truth is coming out. >> yeah. i'm curious what you think particularly are those frantic texts because the truth is what is first in danger with ow authoritarianism, and world history shows that, and the truth is what this committee says it's pursuing, and the truth is what mr. meadows is obviously withholding. it's real, not fake evidence that he's hiding. i want to read to you f

ready to sound off on this and much more, civil rights attorney and msnbc legal analyst maya wiley is "the washington post" mariana sotomayor. thank you all very much for coming to "the sunday show." what i'm about to show is a tweet from congressman massie. this is sort of dovetailing off the conversation about the michigan school shooting. i had it ready for the interview i did with david hogg, the parkland school shooting survivor. what you're about to see is really disturbing. take a look at this tweet from a sitting member of congress. merry christmas, p.s., santa, please bring ammo. jennifer, what is -- what is wrong with these people, especially after a community is grieving over a school shooting? >> we have migrated from, perhaps, 10 or 20 years ago a group of people who were very adamant about second amendment rights but still had some sense of responsibility for gun owners. we have now moved to the fetishing of guns not only this picture, but how many ads have we seen from republicans shooting things, shooting targets, shooting pumpkins? how many violent videos have we seen

news founder and msnbc political contributor jake sherman and back with me is msnbc legal analyst maya wiley's talk about the subpoenas. who is the january 6th committee going after now? >> two names come out to me as being very important. that's brian jack, the former president's political director, who is now coincidentally the political director for kevin mccarthy, house minority leader, a very important person in mccarthy's orbit, mccarthy's political animal, so to speak. and max miller was a very close aide to donald trump and max miller is now running for congress in ohio, somebody who donald trump has endorsed. there are a bunch of names, i think you had them on the screen a second ago, but those are two names that jumped out to me just because of their current station in american politics. i mean, having -- one of the things that we've wondered all along and that we've been reporting on trying to figure out is, will this committee subpoena people like kevin mccarthy. but here they are going after jack, not because of his ties to mccarthy, but because of his ties to donald trump. he w

but, i'm a little worried, until i read this, i'm worried. >> maya wiley, thank you so much. i appreciate it. and i'm sure that we get more details and we're all able to bear into it, we will have more information. stay with me, maya. i want to go to morgan chesky. he is in dallas, texas. morgan, what's the reaction there? >> reporter: yeah, jose, we are monitoring the social media of governor greg abbott, attorney general ken paxton who were staunch advocates when this law went into effect on october 1st. we haven't heard from them just yet, but they will be weighing in. this has become a highly contentious issue here in the state of texas. sb-8, very polarizing across the entire state. after it went into effect back if early september, an abortion rights group did a study across the state and found that abortions fell by about 50%. and just down the road from us in ft. worth, texas, there was a clinic that averaged about 60-plus procedures every day. that number dropped to 11. that is the impact of this law, essentially the harshest abortion law in the nation that in a lot o

i know maya wiley was asking a moment ago. let's go to the other giant story of the day. >>> the supreme court, predict it at your peril. we've seen almost everybody get it wrong. after today's arguments over abortion, it seems the rights are in grave danger. the general consensus among legal experts is there are at least five votes to uphold mississippi's ban on abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy. possibly as many votes to overturn a federal right to an abortion all together. the conservative justices, including trump appointees gorsuch, kavanaugh, and barrett, had sharp questions for the attorney who was arguing in favor of upholding abortion rights, while seeming to set up the mississippi lawyer arguing against abortion to agree with the justices' own points. in fact, at times during the oral arguments, it was as if the justices were making their own arguments to each other in the form of questions. >> if you think that the issue is one of choice, that women should have a choice to terminate their pregnancy, that supposes

i want to bring in maya wiley a civil rights attorney and former assistant u.s. attorney, and brandy zidrazian, nbc news senior reporter on the online disinformation and extremism beat. maya, it's great to have you. and i know that you have -- you practice in the civil division in the southern district and have had -- worn many different hats as a lawyer. but the thing i keep coming back to is did no one commit a crime here? is it really possible that the phone call to raffensperger, all these attempts were all noncriminal actions? maybe it is. maybe it's just a weird limnal space. but i just feel like i'm not convinced. >> well, you shouldn't be convinced, chris, because we're still watching investigations unfold both by congress and, frankly, the department of justice is doing its own investigations. so until we know all that can be known and find all that can be found we can't actually say a crime has not been committed. and certainly there are indications that there are many things we can be concerned about, but also that the more we learn, the more steps we l

on this thursday night, peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times," maya wiley a civil rights attorney and former u.s. assistant attorney for the southern district of new york. also with us is dr. ebony hilton associate professor at the university of virginia's school of medicine. dr. hilton, i want to start with you. with so many days in the past three years, covid is the new story that we're all thinking about right now. where are we right now in this surge and what do you see ahead? do we have what we need to handle it? i don't hear dr. hilton. we may be having trouble with her connection. okay. i'm going to you. just on where we stand with the pandemic looming ahead of the new year, i mean, where do you see things with all of the stories, the politics of the covid mandates and the supreme court considering whether or not to uphold the white house's vaccine requirements? >> one thing that is so clear and you said it at the top, we have a very serious issue with the omicron variant. we still have the delta variant. we're seeing infections soar. fortunately we'

we talked about the legal angle of it and maya wiley and if roe v.americans wanted returned. return? what's the impact on our political system? >> the reality is states like mine are going to go to the extreme link to make women criminals that want to terminate a pregnancy. they're going to make doctors criminals that want to assist a woman in terms of assisting a pregnancy. >> the viability is gone or roe is gone. it looks to me they got five votes for that. you are going to have a bunch of states that's going to make it illegal and in missouri, they passed person-hood which puts in the question for ivf for couples trying to conceive. and those positions are very, very unpopular politically. very unpopular. will they be enough to swing right red places back to something more centrist? they could be. let me speak about my experience as a prosecutor and the children, the 13 or 14 years old girls who have been raped by their stepfather or mother's boyfriend or uncles, the neighbors, and threaten with their lives if they told anyone. the young girls i c

we maya wiley, a civil rights attorney and former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. also with us is doctor ebony jade hilton. doctor ebony jade hilton, i want to start with. you as with so many days in the past three years, covid is the new story that we are all thinking about right now. where are we right now in the search and what do you see ahead? do we have what we need to handle it? [inaudible] >> i don't hear dr. hilton so we may be having trouble with their connection. i'm going to go to maya. just on where we stand with the pandemic looming ahead of the new year. be worried that you see things with all of the stories, the politics of the covid mandates and the supreme court considering whether or not to uphold the white house's vaccine requirements. >> yes, zerlina maxwell, one thing that you said at the top is that we have a very serious issue with the omicron variant. we still have the delta variant. and we are seeing infections soar. fortunately, we have not seen such high hospitalization rates but the fact r

i'm joined by anna, and maya wiley. welcome to you both. emily, what do you see in the splitting between many who have cooperated, and these special three? >> well, i see close trump allies and it's hard to know whether they have legal exposure reasons to decide not testify, or whether they're trying to demonstrate loyalty to performer president trump. either way, they're setting up a real showdown, not only with congress, but after congress presumably votes on these orders, then also with the justice department. >> and people who have been following this know, the chief of staff is the number one official at the white house. that's important. he, for his own reasons, good faith or bad faith, talked like he was going to cooperate at one point. there was also stuff he would have to explain about. text messages that according to the committee are pretty incriminating. including a november 6th exchange with someone in congress about appointing alternate electors in states, and the member said that would be controversial. potentially unconstitu

maya wiley and kirt, both of you thank you very much. up next on "the reidout." we remember trump's memes with putin. nothing like that today as president biden confronted the russian leader on his hostile actions towards ukraine. also, congresswoman ilhan omar joins the racist attacks against her from the insurrection caucus and the far right's almost total control over the gop. >> plus. >> this battle has been going on for nearly three hours. >> amaing rarely heard audio from 80 years ago today when pearl harbor was bombed and america went to war. >>> tonight's absolute worst is moo-ing to a new pasture and it's utterly predictable. utterly predictable. "the reidout" continues after this. he reidout" continues afte this downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. the towel washed with downy is softer, and gentler on your skin. try downy free & gentle. ♪ ♪ well would you look at that? ♪ ♪ jerry, you've got to see this. seen it. trust me, after 15 walks ...it gets a little old. ugh. i really should be retired by now. wish i'd invested when i had the

with me now is maya wiley, msnbc legal analyst and advisor for the dnc and dccc. the arguments today, what do you thick the chances are that trump prevails in trying to keep the records secret? >> i think trump will lose. i have long maintained that this was a flimsy, flimsy attempt to try to hide whatever it is he's trying to hide, which is probably some things that don't make them look too good at minimum in the court of public opinion and we already heard from the district court judge at the trial level a very strong opinion because essentially there is a statute, a law that congress passed that said it is the protection of the presidency, not the protection of the person that this privilege covers so it is the sitting president and in this case joe biden who determines whether or not there is a real interest of the presidency to protect and what interest can there be in congress seeking to figure out how it was violently attacked, why it was violently attacked, how to prevent it from being violently attacked again on the extent to which anyone including the pre

. >> michelle goodwin, maya wiley, you are the two women i wanted to speak to. thank you for making the time. >> america's dysfunctional relationship with guns and what a video from inside that michigan school says about the reality for a new generation of kids and this time the gunman's parents facing legal charges. why that could be a breakthrough moment. also ahead, the new omicron variant is spreading. why access to vaccines and masks and testing is more critical than ever and remaining in mexico, how the biden administration can help refugees trying to come to the country. i'm just getting started here on "american voices." as a professional bull-rider i'm used to taking chances. but when it comes to my insurance i don't. i use liberty mutual, they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wooo, yeaa, woooooo and, by switching you could even save 665 dollars. hey tex, can someone else get a turn? yeah, hang on, i'm about to break my own record. yeah. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. ♪ (vo) for fourteen

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is right, the supreme court will likely denied cert, but at the same time there is a chance, and maya wiley made this point on nicolle's show, that because the conservative wing of the court is so hell-bent around an augmented executive branch that they could see this as an opportunity to tinker and to explore, but i think at the end of the day the president and, quite frankly, the politics would say don't touch this. the last thing the roberts court wants, particularly after the abortion fiasco that they have now found themselves in, is to further politicize the court. they have opened that now. they have taken on these cases that have high political drama to them, and this is one piece they don't want to add to that, particularly for those three new appointees of trump who, you know, could then be blamed as, oh, okay, yeah, sycophant just doing trump's bidding and that's not a stain that roberts wants on his court. >> you know, what michael says reminds me of a legal saying, bad facts make bad law. and the facts here really are not the type of thing i think the supreme court wants to star

i also want to bring in maya wiley, a civil rights attorney. and joyce vance, a former u.s.e the opportunity to be with you on this very important day. neal, let me talk first about what we're going to be seeing and actually hearing here on msnbc this morning. when you've gone in front of the supreme court, what are the things you're looking for, early on? >> well, the first thing i try to remember is not be tremendously nervous when i'm arguing in front of the supreme court. the second is to really listen to the justice's questions. as an advocate, you come in with things you want to say, the argument is not about you. it's always about them. and it's about a magic number, five. you've got to count to five, how do you get a majority of the supreme court to agree with your position. you might want a bigger position and win more, but if you know you can't do that, you narrow your position, trim it down to five. so here, the question is, who are the justices who might be in play, who might say, we're on the fence about the mississippi law. and as cecile richards just said, thi