>> past all of it, and understanding, again, people are not john mayer completists.go over it again with people. does that make sense? >> rose: is some of that in this album? >> not really. it was in "born and raised" a lot. that was a wounded sort of thing. but i got a lot of music out of going deep into myself. this is a different dive. this is a dive into being a certain age and i think there's a loss in relationship-- there's always one relationship loss i feel like that takes you with it. you know what i mean? it's not just somebody-- you're not just parting ways with somebody. there's always one that kind of takes you down. >> rose: you lose something. >> lose something. >> rose: right. >> yeah. and this is this idea of being as absolutely beautiful as you can be. like, look, let whoever the sort of intelligentia rock outlets and journalists say that it's light or it's bland. i'm going to be as beautiful as i can be about being sad. you know, that's kind of what this was. listening back to the song called "emoji of a wave," that is what this feels like. which a