>> right, well, what happened is bell was going to take over maywood city services as maywood got rid of laid-off... laid off almost all of its city employees. we heard of investigations going on in bell so i called the district attorney's office and asked if they were investigating maywood and was told, no. i don't know why but i asked what about bell? and the answer came back, as a matter of fact, we're investigating the high salaries of their city council members. so we wrote a story about that that the council members were getting paid about $100,000 a year. this is a part-time job. that led ruben and myself to go over to bell and request some records of salaries, contracts, minutes of meetings, and that started the whole thing. >> warner: and they tried to stone wall you the first time you requested this, right? the records? >> yeah, i mean, when we went there at first bob rizzo the city manager wouldn't come talk to us. so the city clerk came to us. eventually she said, well, you can have these documents in ten days which they were entitled to under the public records act. but r