a new article in "politico" maz today asks one big question, what will trump's presidency mean to history we have jeffrey wilson, who is the author of the book "shakespeare and trump." he is a lecturer at harvard university in the writing program. and washington anchor for bbc news and an msnbc contributor. welcome to you both. we'll go ladies first, with you, catty. what do you think will be remembered about the trump presidency? >> look, it has to be one of the most extraordinary presidencies in the united states. this was a man who threw the political rule book out of the window and in the beginning seemed to have some success in doing so. but by the end of his presidency, the chaos in america, the mishandling of the coronavirus epidemic, the economic crisis that accompanied that. and then of course the last two weeks. i think it'll be the storming of the united states capitol and the first sentence next to his political will be donald trump, the only american president ever to have been impeached twice. that's how the world will remember him. >> do you think, katty, or i guess the que