(inaudible) the whole cost told abu mazen i fought f iael. i'm a zionist. i'm coming he to give you th application of support and (inaudible)ly fight for israel again. but i believe what you're doing is really staining the two state solution and sustaining israel. dot retract. one other person was a director of israel's foreign ministry. he stood up and sd americans should be ashamedand europeans should be ashamed. i speak israelis. most of them are in this line. now there are those in israel who don't see me, rese to see me. they think as palestinians or arabs we have one name, one face one eyes, one ear. that's not good. that's not good. but that's up to them to decide. >> rose: you can't sit down with the foreign minister. >> i don't think he wants to sit with me. the foreign minister is calling for my expulsion. for god's sake, israel's foreign minister a settler! he lives in the illegal settlement. he's a settler. and if that's the case aut who's who and who will bring the (inaudible) i don't stand a chance. i don't stand a chance on that but i'm the p

>> mazen and i are here. but i don't have any successes or anything on hand to be able to answer that question but i don't know if anybody else does here. >> i'd like to answer that question, sort of rhetorically. sikhs are not presumptively permitted to serve in the u.s. armed forces. sikhs are not presumptively permitted to serve and u.s. coast guard, which i believe is a subsidiary of the department of homeland security. we had to sue the department of homeland security several years ago as an organization to win the right of a seat to serve as a federal security officer while wearing his turban. so at least we sikh perspective i can play that there's either underrepresentation because there aren't as many applicants as they should be, or there are still barriers in place that prohibit us from serving in those capacities. >> i think based on what i've read in publicly available information, and there have been some reports by advocacy groups, it seems that the primary concern is with the fbi, and to some e

we gave abu mazen, the palestinian authority, the keys to gaza. heas booted out to two seconds later by iran, iran's proxy hamas and we started having rockets falling on rael because we didn't wo out these details. we gave them a state without working out the peace. we gave them sta without working out security first. we shouldn't repeat that mistake. we're prepared to have a peace in which the palestinians have a state, they're not prepared to have a state with peace. and with security. that's wrong. we should have both simultaneously and that's why i think it's right for president barack obama to stand strongly. >> rose: you brought him up. tell me what role the president has played because much has been made of a division between the two of you when you spoke to the congress and met with him and what he had to d when he... what he ant when he said that the negotiations should begin at the '67 borders. >> look, we may have some differences on this or that point, but to beonest, i think we're very close on the main thgs. he's given a very strong

for example, the settlements issue, i've heard abu mazen personally say, well, you know, what do you expect from us? it was the american administration that started the settlement things and that boxed me into a corner. perhaps but at the same time if you focus on, you know, settlements to the point where somebody just had a baby and wants to build an extra bedroom and that will hold up peace in the middle east that's nuts. it's just stupid. if you want to say don't build major settlements, don't start anymore outposts there would be huge sympathy in this country for that but don't build another bedroom? will that turn the tide in the middle east? give me a break. another complication, you can't go and say well once we have an independent palestinian jews won't be able to live there because that sets off all kinds of emotions. because last people said that were the nazis. and if you want to get american support to push a peace deal and to put some pressure on the israelis you don't say stuff like that but palestinian officials have. not very smart. what to do about hamas? as long as

mazen basrawi from doj ig may be running a few minutes late. format of the panel will be opening remarks, introduction with civil rights issues we face, and how we move forward and engage in a conversation and discussion with the panelists. so if we have enough time, let's get going. dive right into it. so therefore, do you want to start off? >> thank you. spent thank you so much, try one, for inviting me. it's always a pleasure to be at adc. this is an organization i support and have benefited from frankly directly as an arab-american. so despite the challenges that we all face, we are lucky to have adc. so i want to use my time today to really make two significant points, or two major points. after reflecting on, what do talk about 10 years after 9/11, 10 years ago i was hoping we would have nothing to talk about and 9/11 would fade into history and we could just move on. but, unfortunately, that doesn't seem to have happened, at least in the civil rights civil liberties perspective. so the to i guess me take ways i would like you to have it,