i want to put out, like commissioner mazzola did, where i'm at. i'm going to come down on v, the dog play area being at least part turf not because i think turf is such a great thing, but some people may recall that we got a new dog play area that's turf at lafayette park in 2016, so we've had almost five years to see how that's been. i'm a dog owner. i'm out there a lot. it's very popular. it's easy to clean, you don't have to close it. dog claws can be really tough on turf -- on natural grass, so not only do we have to contemplate rain and needing to close it -- close it if it's all grass, but it gets really torn up by dog claws and needs more maintenance that you might anticipate. the park is very popular with dog owners, and i know i'm going to be out there, and i would like the dog park to not be closed down at all. i'm a professional, a business owner nearby, a parent, and a dog owner, so i represent a lot of constituencies, and we need to make family centers safe from people that don't like dogs or uncomfortable. also, dog feces is really u