president mazzucco, you were at the meeting. was there any reason given for giving this lower medal of honor? i can't imagine a situation that would -- it seems such a clear thing to me here. if there are other issues we ought to be aware of, i'd like to be aware of them. it is quite frankly shocking that it wouldn't have come to us at that gold medal level in the first instance? >> vice president mazzucco: commissioner slaughter, i wish i had the answer to that question. i have been to three of these situations. i know i was shocked. the commissioners were looking at me with questions on their face. only the people in that room can answer that question. was it politically motivate snd i have heard from the p.o.a. on this matter. it is part of the petty garbage that goes on in this police department that this chief is changing. that's what i'll leave it as. >> it is ai new process for me. as commissioner dejesus indicated, there is no rationale given as to how you vote. i was taken aback. the box is filled in 1878 and they have

vice president mazzucco was not able to come. we passed on the problems that the boston report pointed out and told them in straight terms the things you have to do to address those concerns. we are hoping to have their response and put this back on the commission agenda sometime relatively soon so the commission can address these things. i think it was a good meeting. other commissioners had expressed their interest in this. that is it on that issue. president marshall: thank you very much. if there is nothing else, will take public comment on item three, please. >> reinhardt, director of san francisco open government -- ray hart, director of san francisco open government. this is on the chief's comments and on commissioners dejesus and kingsley. there is an expression -- none of us is as smart as all of us. getting members of the bay area community, one of the most creative places in the world, involved in the police department offers immense amounts of resources to the officers that otherwise would not have. it gets people in

. >> thank you very much, vice president mazzucco. looking at the comprehensive statistical report, the number of cases that have been sustained in the past nine months of 2010 is 53. that number is 53. 52 of the 53 cases were cases that were filed in 2009. one of the cases was a case that was filed in 2010. so this is rolling. the 2010 cases are still being considered. the total number of cases that were opened in 2010 is 664. cases closed, so far in 2010, 354 of them are 2009 cases, 209 are 2010 cases. the sustained rate to date of cases closed is 8% not 0000.0001%. >> if i am reading this -- >> you have already commented. >> so they get to comment after i do and i get to shut-up and you get to put out a false indication and i don't get to counteract it. >> next speaker. next item, please. line item number 5, please. >> item 5. discussion and possible action to approve the department's recommendation denying request of assistant patrol special officer ray castillo, 2504, to purchase beat 72 from resigned patrol special officer hanle

vice president mazzucco: this is great work. it ties up some of the loose ends we have had to deal with with reference to the cases being farmed out to the mediators. this is great. i appreciate it. a lot of thought went into this. thank you for doing what you did. this is a great document. i am glad the city attorney's office look at it. we need to get this on the calendar for approval. our only problem now are those cases that are sitting out there with hearing officers. once we tie up this loose end, we will be in really good shape. thank you. commissioner dejesus: i had a no-time waiver. there were not any rules to discuss when the discovery had to be turned over, how quickly we were born to set it, whether we would set it before the full commission. i think we should have a pair graf where for a no time waiver procedure -- a paragraph where for a no time waiver procedure -- >> that is 90 days. it is an unusual situation we are dealing with there. this is a case that did not have a hearing officer. it was one that was assign

vice president mazzucco: we'll move this to the 22nd. unfortunately, we're doing a lot of this on the fly. it is not your typical police department matter. what i'm going to do ises -- >> if you are still planning on having a conference call on friday, perhaps you might have an opportunity to by then have a suggestion. i don't mean it is necessarily our role to make make a judgment on the fly about whether it is proper or not. >> we're going to have' conference call on friday. make everybody available friday morning at 10:00 for a conference call. they will be initiated through by lieutenant reilly, and friday morning we will have pending for you whether or not you can operate the beat until the sale is complete, the final. >> can anybody work the beat at all? do you know? commissioner dejesus: you mean with compensation or without compensation? >> that's something that raises the question. i wasn't clear on it. >> i think at this point we wait until friday. vice president mazzucco: in an abundance of caution, i will ask for a cease and

[pledge of allegiance] picommissioner mazzucco: presen. president marshall: present. commissioner chan: present. commissioner hammer: present. commissioner kingsley: present. commissioner slaughter: here. >> we have the chief of police and director. president marshall: this is a regular meeting of the sand francisco police commission. let me say that before i go to the agenda that item #4 will not be held this evening. we like to do that when we have a full commission. if you are here for that, we will address that. with that, please call item no. one. >> a request by approval to be used exclusively to purchase tories for the christmas give away. -- toys for the christmas give away. president marshall: if you have no questions about it, i will take motion for approval. without objection? thank you. item number 2. >> item 1b is a donation for the well-being and care of police horses for use by the mounted unit. president marshall: any questions on item 1b? without objection, so ordered. public comment -- thank you. public comment on item number one? hearing none. >> it

commissioner mazzucco. i need a second. commissioner dejesus: second. president marshall: without objection, so awarded. item number 6, please. more money. >> item number 6, discussion and possible action to recommend that the board of supervisors approve a resolution authorizing the police department to receipt actively accept and expend a grant totaling $320,274 from the u.s. department of justice/national institute of justice for the fy-2010 forensic d.n.a. backlog reduction program , action only. >> motion. commissioner dejesus: second. president marshall: public comment? hearing now public comment, then without objection the motion is approved. thank you. let's move to item number 7. >> item 7. discussion of possible action to recommend that the board of supervisors approve a resolution authorsizing the police department to receipt actively accept and expend a $750,000 grant from the u.s. department of justice/office of community oriented policing for fiscal year 2010 technology program for a gunshot location system. commissioner dejesus: motion to

vice president mazzucco: present. commissioner dejesus: present. >> you have a quorum. also seated at the day's tonight is the chief of police and the director of the occ. president marshall: this is a regular meeting of the san francisco police commission for october 20, 2010. i would say i want to be informed of the score, but i cannot really say that during a meeting. please call item one. >> item 1 is the approval of the consent calendar. this is a quarterly report by the police department and the office of citizen complaints regarding policy proposals, and also the office of citizen complaints third quarter statistical report. president marshall: are the questions on any items contained therein? commissioner kingsley: i had a couple of questions on the report by the director of the office of citizen complaints, please. there is an item on page 5, i believe. there is an indication of 7% of cases having been -- the complaints have been sustained. i guess the question is what would you attribute that number two? if you could elaborate, help us understand a little bit

vice president mazzucco: present. >> turn the lights on. commissioner chan: present. commissioner hammer: present. commisser kingsley: present. >> commissioner, you have a quorum. president marshall: this is a regular meeting of the san francisco police department -- police commission for september 28 -- september 29, 2010. >> the first item is public comment. the public may address the chair for matters that are within our jurisdiction but not on the agenda. >> my name is jimmy whitaker. i live in the south of market district. i am a member of the neighborhood association. the reason i am at public comment this evening is a couple of issues have come to my attention where i am afraid that neighborhoods are being dismissed as far as the input for concerns that greatly affect our quality of life. i just wanted to mention that to the commission tonight. the first is the patrol of special police. it is my understanding there has been a report issued -- up at least my understanding is it did not have much input from those of us who use special police to provide safety ser

. >> commissioner mazzucco. >> lieutenant reilly, do we have -- commissioner dejesus, i think we're discussing general order 8.0. i was going to ask you, is it possible we can continue that for another week? the chief wants to be here for the presentation, and he wants to be here wednesday night. >> and they are not available to follow. >> maybe two weeks down the road. the chief needs to be here. >> i need to -- i want to make sure they are available. do you have any idea? >> i'm not sure. i'm not sure. commissioner dejesus: why don't we talk off line. >> we'll take that off calendar for next week. so i doubt that -- i would ask that that be taken off calendar. do we need to do a motion? thank you. i appreciate that. president marshall: anything else? all right. public comment on item number 8. none. item number 9. >> item number 9 is public comment on all matters pertaining to closed session which is item 11 below, including public comment on whether to go into closed session. president marshall: comment on item number 9? none. item number 10. >> item 10 is a vote on whether to moled hold a

. >> thank you very much, vice president mazzucco.looking at the comprehensive statistical report, the number of cases that have been sustained in the past nine months of 2010 is 53. that number is 53. 52 of the 53 cases were cases that were filed in 2009. one of the cases was a case that was filed in 2010. h