mazzucco. >> thank you. this is excellent as always. so the public is not confused we are talking about adding police officers to the san francisco airport and academy classes. that means they don't go straight from the academy to the airport they go to the street and more senior officers transfer to the airport. >> that is correct. >> some of the cars look terrible. iit is a public safety issue. one district station heavy the cars are out of service right now. the age of cars, it is a safety concern for the officers. is there anything we can do to make sure we don't have three officers in a car and half the cars are down in the district station. we have cars for officers to drive to respond to calls for service. there is a lot of new cars in the public safety. can we do anything to get the cars out on the street for the officers responding to the calls? >> commissioner, we are juggling with the cars. that is one of the considerations. we have redeployed some of the cars. thankfully, with the budget from last year and the car from the b

commissioner mazzucco. >> commissioner: thank you. i'd like to ask the chief you referred from different stakeholders who are mostly attorneys and community group members. i need it hear from those out in the street it's a big difference when you're dealing with somebody on parole fighting with you versus those of us who sit behind desks and look at legal standards. i'm going to ask the chief what's your feeling about the change that commissioner hirsch made? >> commissioner: i want to say while the chief is reviewing this, commissioner mazzucco, i agree. >> commissioner turman: let him review it. quiet. commander walsh, can you come here for a moment? >> i think the biggest issue for the department is we're trying to stay consistent with the other djos particularly 5.01. it redefines basically assaults and restricted the language to physical injury. i know this is for the purpose of clarity but officers are training -- when we train the entire department on a general order that is a good general order with the use of force and the la

commissioners, it's been moved by mazzucco. seconded by marshall. i'm sorry.mmission commission commission commission commissioner hirsch has a comment. >> there is a word that bothers me in the document and i want to suggest we change it. on page 6, it says when a bulletin substantially modifies a general order, it goes on and will be submitted to the police commission. i don't like the word substantially. i don't think that is the intent of the charter. a bulletin is not supposed to be able to substantially modify a general order or modify an order at all. to me if we take the word substantially out and it will come to the commission, and i would prefer that. i don't know what substantially mean, and it is open to abowusa. i would make a motion to amend this document by deleting that word substantially. >> you have to make a motion -- you have to ask the maker of the motion to accept your amendment. >> well, if we're following robert's rules of order, i don't actually. >> what i will do at this point in time is move to amend my motion to eliminate the word s

. >> thank you, vice president mazzucco. the next presentation will be drar john sanchez and acting captain john pera, to present the analysis of sexual assault kid and evidence. >> there was another project that was championed by a former commissioner, john hammer, and that was when we found out there was a backlog in testing of rain kits, so the former prosecutors on this commission know how important that is. again we've made a lot of progress when we found out that there was a lot of untested kits, and the rational given was because they were known silents. we as a commission made a commitment to have every kit tested, just for other cases, for additional evidence, and we've come to a pretty good point, so i hope the numbers are good tonight, and i'm sure they are. i want to thank you for your report on that. this police department is updating something that others haven't. go ahead. >> thank you, mr. vice president, commissioners, director and chief. thanks for allowing me time to speak. my name is john sanchez, and i'm

. >> commissioner mazzucco? >> commissioner mazzucco: that's fine. >> president turman: all right. let's move onto the -- the appendix. much talked about -- yeah. >> okay. first point on the appendix, page -- this is -- it's the first page of the appendix, and the first point is related to the number of police commission members to sit on the review board, so the appendix is the accountablity portion. the department will create a review board. the first point as it currently stands, one member of the commission is requested. the stakeholders would like a second member. that second member -- so two commissioners, essentially, on the review board. the reason being is that the department is still working with the city attorney on allowing a member of the public to sit in on the review board until the stakeholders believe that until that is done, they -- they prefer two commissioners. >> president turman: the stakeholders want two commissioners until it's worked out with the city attorney to get a member of the public onto the board. >> yeah. >> president turman: okay. and the departme

. >> president turman: commissioner mazzucco? >> commissioner mazzucco: i just want to add the bar association brought up about the iad's being in the car. i know that's part of it. i saw an e-mail about it, is that something that we're doing, chief, that we're starting to equip all of our vehicles at this point. >> we have the funding, so in the implementation phase of rolling this out -- >> so by the time we roll this out, every vehicle will have an iad. >> commissioner dejesus: point of clarification, i think the bar association was worried that everyone would have tazers. police on horses, police on motorcycles, everyone was going to have an iad. the question was, if it's foreseeable, can they request a squad car with an iad, that's another little sentence that they're going to have because there's a lot of officers -- >> i think when we discussed this, we said that when this happens, the officer will call on a supervisor, and they will be bringing one because the fact is you can never foresee that you're going to use -- and

good evening, vice president mazzucco, commissioners, chief scott, and members of the public. i'm pleased to provide provide you with -- provide you with a synopsis of the reports that happened over the last three-quarters. this is a combination of the third and fourth quarters. there were 49 a bulletins that were released, 59 b bulletins, 16 c bulletins with a total of 116 bulletins. general orders, 5.15 enforcement of immigration laws has been revised. department general orders in progress, interacting with transgender and jendeer variant and intersex individuals, that is something that's being worked on. at this very moment, we're all looking forward to having this general order being presented to our department. department general or the 3.01, that is currently in concurrence and is -- it's through concurrence and now it's in meet and confer. department general order 1.08, community policing, department defines this as department philosophy and organizational strategy. department 2.04, citizen complaints against officers. it outlines the policies and procedures to receivin

. >> commissioner turman: commissioner mazzucco. >> commissioner: chief, what is your definition of assaultive? commissioner hirsch is not quite sure what it is. >> commissioner turman: thank you. chief, can you give us your definition. i need to move on here. you asked him a question. let him answer it because i have another agenda item to get to. what jur -- your definition of assault? >> commissioner: for the policy, i'll answer the question -- professional or combative or attempting to assault another person or displays an intention to assault the officer or another person. that is the definition we train to. that's the definition we've trained 1,350 officers to, that very definition. when you go to this level of force, immediate force and responsive the use of devices or technique to ultimately maintain control of the situation. what i'm saying is this is -- this device falls into a category. intermediate force or less force. officers are trained to understand what level of force we're talking about proportionality. it's not just a taser policy. we're talking about the portionality which

. >> president turman is excused. [ roll call. ] >> vice president mazzucco, you have a quorum. also with us tonight is the chief of police, bill scott, and the deputy director of police accountablity, eric killshaw. >> also i'd like to welcome tonight our new police commission sergeant walter ware, who will be joining us with officer ryan jones who will be joining us as part of our staff. welcome, and hopefully after tonight, you will be staying with us. ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the february 21st, 2018 police commission meeting. tonight we have an agenda full of a lot of reports, many, many reports. it's reporting night. so with reference to reporting night, i'd ask that the reports are high and tight and concise. all the reports have been published on-line for you to read, and commissioners, i'm sure you've all read them, so we'll go through with a brief summary in the report, and if there's any questions from the commissioners, we'll have those, and then we'll have public comment. with public comment given the length of the reports and the complexity of the reports, p