mazzucco: henderson? >> thank you. i spoke with commissioner turman on this issue, as well, and he mentioned that project both to the chief and myself, and the chief and i both have addressed that concern, as well, and we would look forward, i think, so resolving that because there are inconsistencies in his department and my department that we need to be on the same page about. >> commissioner hirsch: i'm working on a new set and i'm working on a something that i'm going to distribute to you folks. >> that would be great. that would resolve a lot of conflicts at the end of these determinations. >> commissioner mazzucco: thank you. commissioner dejesus? >> commissioner dejesus: one of the things that are pending, there's an early intervention meeting -- i hate saying those words. it's kind of broken, and we keep coming back to it, but it's something we've had many discussions with. ieve tt's pe as long as we't a quorum, it's open to any of the commissioners. i think -- i don't remember what time it is. >>

[pledge of allegiance] >> clerk: commissioner mazzucco, i'd like to call roll. >> commissioner mazzucco: please do. [roll call] >> clerk: commissioner mazzucco, you have a quorum. also with us today is bill scott, the chief of police, along with paul henderson, director of the department of police accountability. >> thank you, secretary kilshaw and well come to the june 6, 2018 police commission meeting. i have to say it's great to be back, it's great to see members of the public who comes to our meeting. it's been since may 2 that we had our last meeting, and we have a quorum. two things before we start tonight, first, i have to announce tonight before i introduce our two new commissioners, we are going to adjourn in memory of commissioner julius turman. at our last meeting on may 2, 2018, it was commissioner turman's last meeting as the president, and for those of you that were here, he struggled through that meeting to make it through 'cause there were things that he needed to do. though of you that were here he wasn't help, and as we stood for the pledge of allegiance that night, i

great.missioner hi: >> commissioner mazzucco: ok. great. callm [agenda item read] >> commissioner mazz are: there any announcements, sergeant kilshaw. >> clerk: nexr meeting will be here at city hall, room 400, on june 13, next wednesday, and we will begin at 5:30 p.m. >> commissioner mazzucco: thank you. we have pretty much packed agendas for the near future, i have nin t add. i think our new commissioners sortghouheir big binders,in to so i have nothing to add to the agenda. would you please call for public comment. >> clerk: public comment on items 3 a through 3 d? >> commissioner mazzucco: any public comment on items 3 a through 3 d? hearing none, public comment is now closed. call thext line item. [agenda item read] >> gooenin director. how are you? >> good evening, commissioners, vice president mazzucco, members of the commission, chief, members command staff. i'm kathrin mcguire and chief financial officer of theice department. this evening, i'm asking you to all approve the shift olary savings into a worker's compensation interdepar

refer to mazzucco. >> vice president mazzucco: even come in here. our city attorney is not prepard to answer this question. we should put it on -- anything further before we go to public comment retarding line item, 1a, c and d. please call for public comment. >> line two discussion of aness- >> vice president mazzucco: call public comment. now time for public comment regarding line item, 1a, b, c ad d. pect to have the opportunity to -- >> vice president mazzucco: we'e not doing the formalities. talk about public comment. >> the general public is now invited to public comment regarg lines 1a, b, c and d. >> vice president mazzucco: pubc comment is limited to two minut. please come forward. first person. >> may it please the commission. any name is john jones. i like to take exception to the chief scott's report. it is not informative. it consisted largely restoratiof numbers quickly read from a cryt sheet. those numbers could have been easily incorporated in the documents that you published bee the meeting. i found this report uninformati. i find t

great. >> commissioner mazzucco: okay. great. call item [agenda item read] >> comminer maucco: are there any announcements, sergeant kilshaw. clerk our next meeting will be here at city hall, room 400, on june 13, next wednes a will begin at 5:30 p.m. >> commissioner mazzucco: thank you. we have pretty much packed agendas for the near future, i have nothing to add. i think our new commissioners will need to start begin to sort through their big binders, so i have nothing to add to the agenda. would you pase call for public comment. >> clerk: public comment on es 3hro t d? >> commissioner mazzucco: any public comment on i a thro h 3 d? hearing none, public comment is call theline item. [agenda item read] >> good evenin director. how are you? >> good evening, commissiers, vice president mazzucco, memberf thecommission, chief, director, members of the command staff. i'mat mcguire and chief financial officer of the police department. this evening, i'm asking you to all approve the shift of salary savings into a worker's budget line.

thank you. >> vice president mazzucco: thak you. commissioner hirsch. >> commissioner hirsch: i want o clarify a public perception i kw exist. i heard it all week and i seen t in the papers. we are meeting in private sessin to meet with our attorneys and h the negotiators to talk to them about what our legal obligations with regard to five department general orders. the use of force around tasers s one of them. nobody on the commission is suggesting that we're going to negotiate the substance of water this commission already did mons and months ago with the poa. what we're finding out is are te any issues that affect the poa t they are legally entitled to negotiate. like impact of our policy. for example, they have a right under california law to negotiae what kind of discipline will be issued in the event an officer s found to violate the policy that this commission already passed. we'll have an obligation to sit down with the poa and negotiate th 1-2-3 the city will. we don't do do. the poa is not coming in here. we're meeting wit

[applause] >> vice president mazzucco: ple.ioner hirsch. >> commissioner hirsch: we had same issue come up at accountability. we're taking similar -- i asked the city attorney's office to look at what los angeles is doing and to give us an opinion, their opinion as to why we couldn't do something like or closer to that. that will come back to accountability. sounds like we're working on the same thing. >> commissioner dejesus: we're all governed by copeley. >> vice president mazzucco: com. >> . commissioner elias: i think that one of the things that was evidently clear and the use of force working group was that the fact that the public really wants transparency. i think that we are all in agreement that is something we also want as well while respecting the laws. >> just to brief follow-up. i think everybody said it already. i know that even before i came on the police commission, time and again, people in the community have addressed concerns with the way the disciplinary process, isn't transparent as it could be. nobody is s

. >> commissioner mazzucco: thank you. please read the next lim. [anda item read] >> motion to not disclose. >> do i have a second? second. all in favor. and please call the next line item [agenda item read] >> commissioner mazzucco: and commissioners, as i stated earlier, i move to adjourn in nor of our forme julius turman, who passed earlier in may, may 13, 2018, at 52 ars of age. julius started his career in law in private practice. he was an assistant united states attorney in the district of new jersey hask f rms s an employment r in san francisco. as we learned as his memorial he was a men for many people in the lgbtq community, african mentored mylawyers, and many law firms. he served on many commissions, and he was on this commission. he was an incredible human, an so i move to end teeting in his honor, and i hope send this to his fami b in michigan, and do ivea a seco >>second. ommi ioner mazzucco: ll in favor? >> commissioner hirsch: and i dthk ng that. >> commissioner mazzucco: we're adjourned. - working for the city and county of san fr

it sounds like vice president mazzucco and commissioner hurst worked on this. we need people to take the lead, but i think it would be helpful for the rest of us or some of us to know a little more about the process and to be sure that we are going to be the police commission. >> let me help you out. we were taken by surprise when the mou first came to the commission. we unanimously rejected it for the reasons you have stated. after that rejection, myself and commissioner hurst met with mayor farrell. we expressed concerns. we are the police commission, why you can't have the ceremony and we didn't participate in that. there was no commissioner present. we weren't signatory re. we met with the mayor. what are your concerns, he said? commissioner hurst explained. this left us out. you are not alone. it was unanimous. it was 7-0. the commission was not happy with this. next was commissioner hurst going in to put this in a form to recognize our role pursuant to the charter what we have been doing. that is the process taking place for commissioner hurst has met wit

[pledge of allegiance] >> clerk: commissioner mazzucco, i'd like to call roll. >> commissioner mazzuccoplease do. [roll call] >> clerk: commissioner mazzucco, you have a quorum. also with us today is bill scott, the chief of

. >> commissioner mazzucco: all in favor? >> commissioner hirsch: and i thank you for doing that. >> commissioner mazzucco: we're adjourned. >>> [chanting] >>> so i want to say first of all thank you all for being here today and i would like to start today to take a brief moment of silence in respect of our former police commissioner julius turman who was a great champion of public safety and a true friend to the city. so if you would please firstjoi. >> oment of silence >> thank you. our thoughts and condolences are with his friends and family during this time. he's absolutely missed here in the city of san francisco. so i want to first do a round of thank yous. there's a number of individuals and organizations who helped lead us to where we are today. first ofll i want tohank our police chief bill scott. i want to thank our police commission, we have police commission president tip pi here. thank you. members of the board of supervisor, jeff seehey and katheri katherine stefani here today. our city departments, our controll

[pledge of allegiance] >> clerk: commissioner mazzucco, i'd like to call roll.

for the record, vp mazzucco, we're going to go back on the rerd. we still have a quorum consisti. also, we have chief scott in the room. >> thank you. commissioners. with reference to line ite number 8, do i have a vote as to whether or not to disclose who was held in closed session, a vote for isclosure. >> i vote for nondisclosure. >> second. >> thank you. please call line item nine [agenda item read] [agenda item read] >> as i stated, we're going to close in memory of patrol officer samuel reyes, sr. he's a graduate of mission high school. he dedicated his life to serving the citizens of san francisco. will not only be profoundly missed by his friends and family but by thoseizenit h served for nearly 50 years. he worked the majority of his career in the bayview district. throughout his long career he received numerous commendations. he waswa bronze medal [voting] >> thank you very much. - working for the city and county of san francisco will immerse you in a vibrant and dynamic city that's on the forefront of economic growth, the arts, and social change. our city has always bee

eventually one day a a deputy director or staying with the puc is where i love it >> vp commissioner mazzucco call roll. [roll call] you have a quorum present mr. paul henderson and chief of

. >> commissioner mazzucco: -- marc massarweh. i'm on the small basis commission and i believe we do need more representation of arab americans in city hall. marc also comes from a small business background, and just like my family's business, we are on the cop's beats, we talk to them, we know how to connect what they're dealing with and what the community at large is dealing with, and it's really important that we have a seat at the table. just last month, we had a young community member involved in an officer involved sheeting -- shooting, and what was really apparent in that process, we need someone serving us in the community. in light of today's increasingly important -- to make sure that we hold to the oversights, one during that it has to do with federal and local mou's and surveillance that targets a specific demographic in the city. in addition to the language access work, our community's been involved with those kinds of items, and they directly intersect with police commission work, and so we really hope that you can h