so he kind of -- he basically set the alarm bells before bear stearns hit the skids, mbia and the bonddo and a lot of that was because of bill ackman, i was reporting about it at cnbc at the time, and that made both of their names. if you fast-forward ten years later, both of them are in much different states. paulson is not doing well, laying people off like most hedge funds. the hedge funds have to cut fees to basically keep investors in because performance has been -- look at that, that's amazing as far as how much assets. >> people on siriusxm driving, we have paulson in 2011 had 38 billion in assets and today 9 billion. >> and look at ackman, again, he had good years in 2012, but let me tell you, he hit the skids with herbalife and fannie mae. if you look at lloyd blankfein who is almost blown out and wanted to leave because things are so hot. he's going to stay around a while. liz: not going to be pushed out. need to ask you as a follow-up. it's 24 hours since a little bit over that since robert mueller, the special investigator filed the subpoena. >> right. liz: against trump or

east of happy hill would have heights,mbia professional african-american teachers working at the university. highway cut through happy hill and takes away the north end of the graveyard. that is another devastating blow to the community. you still have these people making a life as result of these changes around them. houses were saved. they are very symbolic. the architectural style is important. the one behind me was moved here. we believe this house has been moved three times. we believe it is dying, crying out. there is a reason this house has been saved. that is why we are working to preserve it. the other house placed on this lot next to an existing shotgun house, it is on its original foundation. there were 2 there. one has been burnt. ant house would be used as exhibit space to house the history of the happy hill community and the local history of african-americans in winston-salem. the goal is to have happy hill established as an historic neighborhood and have these houses as the gateway into the community, the land structures. the community values the historical and architectural