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mcafee?him please come in, let's bring closure to this case, and let's all carry on with our lives. >> but john mcafee seemed to be toying with the police, leaving clues in his blog hinting he might be hiding right under their noses, cleverly disguised as a tourist or a street vendor. >> been in public many, many times. i went shopping in public the other day, went to buy some strawberries. >> our search was quite unlike that of the police. we made arrangements with middlemen for a secret rendezvous. but mcafee never showed. >> of course, john might not be on the island at all. >> the only person who seemed always to know how to reach him was this woman, one of mcafee's former teenage lovers, amy herbert. >> a lot of guests here, besides girls? i mean, not much other company? no. >> amy had john mcafee's trust, it seemed. >> front door, doesn't matter. >> it was with his permission, she said, that amy showed us around his beach estate. >> here is the house. >> nice. >> we would always snorkel
mcafee?him please come in, let's bring closure to this case, and let's all carry on with our lives. >> but john mcafee seemed to be toying with the police, leaving clues in his blog hinting he might be hiding right under their noses, cleverly disguised as a tourist or a street vendor. >> been in public many, many times. i went shopping in public the other day, went to buy some strawberries. >> our search was quite unlike that of the police. we made arrangements with middlemen...
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judge mcafee: sure.indiscernible] >> if you go to the second or last page for the back, i will highlight it for the court. at note 41 and 42, everything is based legally -- basically in your discretion but in this case a couple weeks ago, what we were talking about, it is highlighted in regards to the facts in our case and the first issue will be , is there confusion about the evidence and are there conflicting defenses and antagonistic investors -- defenses? there will not be two antagonistic defenses because bees do not overlap at all and issue will be what is the confusion and one of the reverie -- the remedies is jury charges and in your case, -- this case that i gave you as a rico case involving gang-related type charges. what it basically says, both two people were charged with those crimes. there is overflow and spillovers of the question, is the evidence against ms. powell going to impact her? we are charged in the rico and the six predicate acts in the six predicate acts only deal with the elect
judge mcafee: sure.indiscernible] >> if you go to the second or last page for the back, i will highlight it for the court. at note 41 and 42, everything is based legally -- basically in your discretion but in this case a couple weeks ago, what we were talking about, it is highlighted in regards to the facts in our case and the first issue will be , is there confusion about the evidence and are there conflicting defenses and antagonistic investors -- defenses? there will not be two...
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one other quick point about mcafee. he's up an election for 2024. i think that plays to his advantage with georgia voters for pressure on mcafee. i think mcafee has been exemplary today. >> amy lee copeland, does the judge run in fulton county? >> that is where he runs. he runs in fulton county. and i think fulton county is large enough that it is its own judicial circuit. so it will simply be the voters in fulton county who will vote for him. >> and those fulton county voters were overwhelmingly biden voters in the last presidential election? >> they were. the statistics i read where 70 to 80% for the president. so they are overwhelmingly, it is a good word, maybe an understatement. >> bradley moss, and we look, open harry lemon, thank you all for starting off a discussion tonight. >> thank you, have a gunning. >> and coming up, today, the speaker of the house was shamed, publicly shamed, by the youngest member of the house of representatives, maxwell frost, in yet another demonstration of kevin mccarthy's utter incompetence and rank powerlessness
one other quick point about mcafee. he's up an election for 2024. i think that plays to his advantage with georgia voters for pressure on mcafee. i think mcafee has been exemplary today. >> amy lee copeland, does the judge run in fulton county? >> that is where he runs. he runs in fulton county. and i think fulton county is large enough that it is its own judicial circuit. so it will simply be the voters in fulton county who will vote for him. >> and those fulton county voters...
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denied, ruling from the bench, judge scott mcafee says he will not allow kenneth chesebro to sever his case from sidney powell, meaning that the october 23rd, speedy trial date for at least two of the alleged georgia coconspirators still stands, as for the other 17 defendant, judge mcafee has not yet decided what to do with them. there are hearings to come, and serious logistical issues raised with the judge questioning the feasibility of the d.a.'s four-month trial time line. also raising what might happen if any or all of the motions to remove are granted or appeal to the 11th circuit. for the first televised hearing regarding the attempts to overturn the 2020 election, it was fascinating, if a little complicated. we're going to begin with georgia. please don't go anywhere, there is also news out of the special counsel's classified documents case. more on what one of donald trump's lawyers said on tape, warning the former president, what the government would do if he did not comply. let's start, though, in georgia. joining us now is nbc news correspondent garrett haake, and outside t
denied, ruling from the bench, judge scott mcafee says he will not allow kenneth chesebro to sever his case from sidney powell, meaning that the october 23rd, speedy trial date for at least two of the alleged georgia coconspirators still stands, as for the other 17 defendant, judge mcafee has not yet decided what to do with them. there are hearings to come, and serious logistical issues raised with the judge questioning the feasibility of the d.a.'s four-month trial time line. also raising what...
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i really think this is where judge mcafee needs to be thinking about, this -- these people need to beuld not be according them extra rights. they should be accorded no more or no less, and this does not happen. so this is a good opportunity to say i'm going to follow what the law requires and no more and no less. >> andrew weissmann and gwen keys, thank you both very much for considering the georgia developments. we really appreciate that. coming up, not a single democrat attacked the justice department today after president biden's son was indicted for given a false answer on an application to purchase a gun. andrew weissmann will analyze that indictment for us, next. for asthma driven by eosinophils. it's designed to target and remove them and helps prevent asthma attacks. fasenra is not for sudden breathing problems or other eosinophilic conditions. allergic reactions may occur. don't stop your asthma treatments without talking with your doctor. tell your doctor if your asthma worsens. headache and sore throat may occur. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. get back
i really think this is where judge mcafee needs to be thinking about, this -- these people need to beuld not be according them extra rights. they should be accorded no more or no less, and this does not happen. so this is a good opportunity to say i'm going to follow what the law requires and no more and no less. >> andrew weissmann and gwen keys, thank you both very much for considering the georgia developments. we really appreciate that. coming up, not a single democrat attacked the...
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i really think this is where judge mcafee needs to be thinking about, this -- these people need to bethey should be accorded no more or no less, and this does not happen. so this is a good opportunity to say i'm going to follow what the law requires and no more and no less. >> andrew weissmann and gwen keys, thank you both very much for considering the georgia developments. we really appreciate that. coming up, not a single democrat attacked the justice department today after president biden's son was indicted for given a false answer on an application to purchase a gun. andrew weissmann will analyze that indictment for us, next. my active psoriatic arthritis can make me feel like i'm losing my rhythm. with skyrizi to treat my skin and joints, i'm getting into my groove. ♪(uplifting music)♪ along with significantly clearer skin... skyrizi helps me move with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. skyrizi attaches to and reduces a source of excess inflammation that can lead to skin and joint symptoms. with skyrizi 90% cleare
i really think this is where judge mcafee needs to be thinking about, this -- these people need to bethey should be accorded no more or no less, and this does not happen. so this is a good opportunity to say i'm going to follow what the law requires and no more and no less. >> andrew weissmann and gwen keys, thank you both very much for considering the georgia developments. we really appreciate that. coming up, not a single democrat attacked the justice department today after president...
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but ice water was running through judge mcafee's veins today. he understood the assignment and i thought he did it really well. he realized that this was not a hard discussion, not a hard issue about whether to sever these two defendants from each other. and he realized that they were going to go to trial together. i also thought it was interesting that he cautioned the state that trying all 19 by october 23rd was just gonna be unrealistic. but he was willing to hear them out, and as i have said before, notice and hearing or the hallmarks of the criminal justice system. he's gonna give them. that albeit on of abbreviated schedule. >> harry litman, what were you expected from the 34-year-old judge? and what else jumped out to you? >> i'm not sure what i was expecting, but i totally agree he was poised, he was relaxed, he was comfortable. he was very on top of them all. of the law. what jumped out to me was his firmness in telling chesebro, guess what, but you may not like it but you have no reason to be tried together. but then he's pushing back
but ice water was running through judge mcafee's veins today. he understood the assignment and i thought he did it really well. he realized that this was not a hard discussion, not a hard issue about whether to sever these two defendants from each other. and he realized that they were going to go to trial together. i also thought it was interesting that he cautioned the state that trying all 19 by october 23rd was just gonna be unrealistic. but he was willing to hear them out, and as i have...
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judge mcafee, what is your expectation about this case?endants going to trial together? >> so, there is some tension here, alex. one of the things that i don't think a lot of people were talking about, but that they need to keep in mind, is that this is an active courtroom. so he is probably got between 500,000 cases that are pending. besides this very major case. among those cases are people who are currently in custody. they are trying to get divorces. and so if this courtroom is tied up for two years as opposed to one year, that's gonna cause a major backlog. that's the tension on the one side, which is the tension that says, let's try everybody together starting on october 23rd. the other tension is in effect of assistance of counsel, which is a standard here in georgia as it is nationwide. and that is that if you have attorneys who are not properly appeared for trial, that is an appellate issue and can get the case -- reversed. so, you certainly don't want to be the job who gets reversed in one of the most high-profile cases in histor
judge mcafee, what is your expectation about this case?endants going to trial together? >> so, there is some tension here, alex. one of the things that i don't think a lot of people were talking about, but that they need to keep in mind, is that this is an active courtroom. so he is probably got between 500,000 cases that are pending. besides this very major case. among those cases are people who are currently in custody. they are trying to get divorces. and so if this courtroom is tied...
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judge mcafee, what is your expectation about this case is 19 codefendants going to trial together? >> so there's some tension here, alex. one of the things that i don't think a lot of people are talking about but they need to keep in mind is that this is an active courtroom so he's probable got between 500 and 1,000 cases pending besides this major cases. one of the cases are going to be people in custody, there are people trying to get divorces. and so if this courtroom is tied up for two years as opposed to one year, that's going to cause a major backlog. that's the tension on one side and the tension that says let's try everyone together starting october 23rd. and the other tension here is the effective of counsel and that is if you have attorneys who are not properly prepared for trial, that's an appellate issue and could get the case reversed. you certainly don't want to be the judge who gets the case reversed in one of the most high profile cases in history. the final thing that's kind of an issue is what's going on in federal court with meadows. i understand wave got some or
judge mcafee, what is your expectation about this case is 19 codefendants going to trial together? >> so there's some tension here, alex. one of the things that i don't think a lot of people are talking about but they need to keep in mind is that this is an active courtroom so he's probable got between 500 and 1,000 cases pending besides this major cases. one of the cases are going to be people in custody, there are people trying to get divorces. and so if this courtroom is tied up for...
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judge mcafee told the state, be careful what you wish for.now you're ready to go but there's a lot of stuff you need to brief. so i want you to do it by next week tuesday because you need to answer some of these questions before i set a trial. >> greg, fani willis filed late today, put in some motions. interesting things here i want to get your thoughts on. in the motion she said based on the fulton county grand juries it is foreseeable they should be docked should their names be made available to the public. it would be undoubtedly be placed in jeopardy. basically what we're hearing from da willis, greg, is that there are cameras in the courtroom, but due efforts are made to keep these jurors anonymous and safe. is that one of the major concerns that people are thinking of downtown? is it one of those things where it's like, okay, that's part of it. we still think -- will they have to be sequestered. what are the thoughts about this idea of how to keep jurors safe? >> certainly, jason. there's a century old case law in georgia that allows th
judge mcafee told the state, be careful what you wish for.now you're ready to go but there's a lot of stuff you need to brief. so i want you to do it by next week tuesday because you need to answer some of these questions before i set a trial. >> greg, fani willis filed late today, put in some motions. interesting things here i want to get your thoughts on. in the motion she said based on the fulton county grand juries it is foreseeable they should be docked should their names be made...
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late today, fulton county judge scott mcafee ruled that no information about the jurors in the rico case against trump and 18 others will be made public. that means no photographs, video, names and addresses. it's a move to protect jurors, and it comes as trump's language gets more ugly and ominous. trump intensified attacks on the press, and targeted, at aop military official, general mark milley. he noted menaceingly that in
late today, fulton county judge scott mcafee ruled that no information about the jurors in the rico case against trump and 18 others will be made public. that means no photographs, video, names and addresses. it's a move to protect jurors, and it comes as trump's language gets more ugly and ominous. trump intensified attacks on the press, and targeted, at aop military official, general mark milley. he noted menaceingly that in
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and i trust that judge scott mcafee will balance between the public interest and the desire and need to keep these jurors safe. >> so katherine, we've talked about the upside of televised hearings. this could be a potential risk, right? you want to protect the jury, but what about the rest of the people involved in the case? part of fani willis's argument in that filing is that she's gotten threats, right? she used those as an example of what they could face. the attorney, the assistants, court employees, is there even a larger potential risk here? >> well, in terms of the jury, tv trials happen all the time, and you don't see the jury. usually you'll hear the clerk say and the jury is entering the courtroom, and the cameras turn to the judge. the cameras turn to the parties. so i don't think -- this ruling of the judge, i agree with lisa will be balanced. you will not see the jurors photographed or videotaped. that will be a direction by the court. they will be anonymous, the same way as lisa mentioned they were in manhattan on the civil rape defamation case. i don't know whether or
and i trust that judge scott mcafee will balance between the public interest and the desire and need to keep these jurors safe. >> so katherine, we've talked about the upside of televised hearings. this could be a potential risk, right? you want to protect the jury, but what about the rest of the people involved in the case? part of fani willis's argument in that filing is that she's gotten threats, right? she used those as an example of what they could face. the attorney, the assistants,...
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the judge here, scott mcafee, did not go for that. so, their trial is still set for next month, october 23rd. but mr. chesebro and ms. powell will be tried together. the judge essentially asserted that because powell and chesebro have never met, and that they would tell the jury that, the idea they would have any guilt by association issues is now and void. and judge mcafee is not going to waste court resources trying them separately. so, at the very least, mr. chesebro and ms. powell go to trial next month, which is a little over six weeks from now. but that brings us to the much bigger question posed today. do the 17 other defendants, including a one donald trump, do they have to go to trial next month as well? now, the prosecutors from the district attorney of fani willis's office think, yes, they should. >> judge, we contend that we must prove the entire conspiracy against each and every one charged. each and every one charged. so, the court, in the interest of judicious economy, would have to make the decision whether the court w
the judge here, scott mcafee, did not go for that. so, their trial is still set for next month, october 23rd. but mr. chesebro and ms. powell will be tried together. the judge essentially asserted that because powell and chesebro have never met, and that they would tell the jury that, the idea they would have any guilt by association issues is now and void. and judge mcafee is not going to waste court resources trying them separately. so, at the very least, mr. chesebro and ms. powell go to...
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the judge here scott mcafee did not go for that. they're trial is set next month october 23rd but they'll be tried together. the idea they'll have any guilt by association issues is null and void, and judge mcafee isn't going to waste court resources trying themt separately. so at the very least mr. powell and go to trial together. do the 17 other defendants do they have to go to trial next month as well. ? the prosecutors from the district attorney's office think, yes, they should. >> judge, we contend we must prove the entire conspiracy against each and everyone charged. each and everyone charged, so the court in the interest of the will have to make the decision whether or not the court wants to try the case 19 times or two. >> the state's position is whether we have one trial or 19 trials the evidence is exactly the same. the number of witnesses are the same, and so many of the arguments made on the other side evaporate. >> today the prosecutors told the judge that because they believe they need to prove the entire conspiracy in
the judge here scott mcafee did not go for that. they're trial is set next month october 23rd but they'll be tried together. the idea they'll have any guilt by association issues is null and void, and judge mcafee isn't going to waste court resources trying themt separately. so at the very least mr. powell and go to trial together. do the 17 other defendants do they have to go to trial next month as well. ? the prosecutors from the district attorney's office think, yes, they should. >>...
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. >> that wasn't the only big development today, judge mcafee rejecting d.a. fani willis's request to try all 19 defendants together. katie phang is an msnbc anchor and legal contributor. greg blue seen is political reporter for "the atlanta journal-constitution" and an msnbc political contributor. robert james is a former district attorney for dekalb county, georgia, now in private practice, and charles coleman is with here with me, a civil rights attorney and former brooklyn prosecutor as well as an msnbc legal analyst. welcome all. katie, those were some harsh words from the defense there. what did you make of that back and forth? >> yeah, chris, you know, in prior hearings in front of judge mcafee, the defense for kenneth chesebro and sidney powell as well as the state of georgia have been very polite doing a dance for the court and for the public at large. today the knives were out. definitely saw some sharp elbows coming, especially from the defense's side. in fairness and with objectivity it was definitely defense that got the hairs up on their neck in
. >> that wasn't the only big development today, judge mcafee rejecting d.a. fani willis's request to try all 19 defendants together. katie phang is an msnbc anchor and legal contributor. greg blue seen is political reporter for "the atlanta journal-constitution" and an msnbc political contributor. robert james is a former district attorney for dekalb county, georgia, now in private practice, and charles coleman is with here with me, a civil rights attorney and former brooklyn...
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with scott mcafee considering motions from ken chesebro and sydney powell and their efforts to severy their case from the other co-defendants, but from each other. it was last week that chesebro's attorneys filed a motion saying he should not have to be tried alongside sydney powell. both are asking for a speedy trial, by the way, that he should not be tried next to sydney powell because they're not accused of operating the same scheme. powell's attorneys are arguing that powell, the only way for her to receive a fair trial is for her to be charged alone. both of these individuals asking for speedy trials. you know the former president along with ray smith and john eastman, former trump attorneys, they're asking for a delay in their trial. the judge also today will consider and will be expected to ask, i should say, fani willis how long it will take prosecutors to try all of these defendants together or if their cases are divided. so a big test today for fulton county's district attorney, fani willis. >> just to emphasize it for the first time, we will see it for ourselves and there
with scott mcafee considering motions from ken chesebro and sydney powell and their efforts to severy their case from the other co-defendants, but from each other. it was last week that chesebro's attorneys filed a motion saying he should not have to be tried alongside sydney powell. both are asking for a speedy trial, by the way, that he should not be tried next to sydney powell because they're not accused of operating the same scheme. powell's attorneys are arguing that powell, the only way...
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judge scott mcafee says he is skeptical about the d.a.'s plan to try all 19 co-defendants in october. prosecutors also revealing that they expect the case to last about four months. as they call more than 150 witnesses to the stand. cnn's paula reid starts us off. >> based on what has been presented today, i'm not finding the severance from mr. chesebro or powell is necessary to receive a fair determination of the guilt or innocence for either different in this case. >> reporter: judge scott mcafee in court wednesday giving the first glimpse into how he plans to handle the sweeping election subversion case in georgia. all in front of cameras allowed in the courtroom. mcafee ruling wednesday that defendants kenneth chesebro and sydney powell, who both filed for a speedy trial, cannot be separated and will stand trial together in a matter of weeks. >> obviously we're a little disappointed. we filed a motion and it was denied. however, we respect the court's ruling. >> reporter: now the issue before the court will be whether it is realistic t
judge scott mcafee says he is skeptical about the d.a.'s plan to try all 19 co-defendants in october. prosecutors also revealing that they expect the case to last about four months. as they call more than 150 witnesses to the stand. cnn's paula reid starts us off. >> based on what has been presented today, i'm not finding the severance from mr. chesebro or powell is necessary to receive a fair determination of the guilt or innocence for either different in this case. >> reporter:...
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judge mcafee was down with all of that, but to a limit. which is to say he's not going to go for one trial, the state's going to have one last shot at convincing him of that. but i think we're going to see at least two. for now, though, he's only dealing with this one on october 23rd. it looks like moss and freeman may have to tell their story twice, but it's part and parcel of trials, that even as they're separated will present the entire kit and caboodle of evidence because that's the conspiracy that all 19 are alleged to have participated in, notwithstanding that it might have just been discreet parts of the actual overt acts. >> chesebro lawyer scott grubman brought up the elephant in the room, right, arguing that this isn't about the 18 other people. this is about donald trump. you're also a trained attorney. give us your take watching this and i know that garrett touched on this, but about this unavoidable intersection of the legal and the political as this is playing out. >> yeah, in the political world, that's right. donald trump k
judge mcafee was down with all of that, but to a limit. which is to say he's not going to go for one trial, the state's going to have one last shot at convincing him of that. but i think we're going to see at least two. for now, though, he's only dealing with this one on october 23rd. it looks like moss and freeman may have to tell their story twice, but it's part and parcel of trials, that even as they're separated will present the entire kit and caboodle of evidence because that's the...
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judge mcafee has entered a television order for the whole case.t's gonna be an interesting motion hearing because it's televised episode of this trial after the defendants have entered their pleas. what are we anticipating there? >> hi chris. the hearing is tomorrow as 1:00. judge mcafee has entered a television order for the whole case. it's gonna be an interesting motion hearing because it's really on chesebro's and powers motions to sever. but the judge has said to the dea, idiot can prepare to talk to me about how many witnesses you're going to call, how many exhibits he planned to enter, if you try this all together or try this in clusters. so the judge hasn't completely for a closed a discreet cluster arrangement of these defendants. i think it's a pretty thoughtful order and i think he realizes that the case may be getting out of his hands a little bit, and he kind of wants to have a schedule in conference and get everybody on the same page. >> on the question of severing, amy lee copeland, let me just stay with you. sydney powell, and agai
judge mcafee has entered a television order for the whole case.t's gonna be an interesting motion hearing because it's televised episode of this trial after the defendants have entered their pleas. what are we anticipating there? >> hi chris. the hearing is tomorrow as 1:00. judge mcafee has entered a television order for the whole case. it's gonna be an interesting motion hearing because it's really on chesebro's and powers motions to sever. but the judge has said to the dea, idiot can...
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in and order today, judge mcafee court at the request, but said, no grandeur can be forced to answernterviewed. the defense lawyers must submit their questions for grand jurors inviting, to the judge, for his approval of the questions. prosecutors can object to those questions. the judge denied the defendant's request to current overall records generated by the special purpose grand jury that could with the and put you by station and into the case. but did not issue indictments. another one of donald trump's criminal codefendants in georgia, rudy giuliani, his under new pressure tonight with a criminal defense lawyer in new york who no longer represents giuliani, and is now suing him for one point $3 million in unpaid legal fees. joining us now is gwen keyes, a former district attorney in georgia, the neighboring county to fulton county. so we've all been learning some of the oddities of georgia law relevant grand juries and now there is the possibility, and it's only a possibility, of grand jurors being interviewed. it might be that none of them agree to be interviewed. and then the
in and order today, judge mcafee court at the request, but said, no grandeur can be forced to answernterviewed. the defense lawyers must submit their questions for grand jurors inviting, to the judge, for his approval of the questions. prosecutors can object to those questions. the judge denied the defendant's request to current overall records generated by the special purpose grand jury that could with the and put you by station and into the case. but did not issue indictments. another one of...
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. >> that was the ruling from the judge scott mcafee when pro-trump lawyer kenneth chesebro and former trump campaign lawyer sydney powell will stand trial now on october 23rd. the question, of course, is will any additional defendants be standing next to them? the judge said he was, quote, very skeptical of the state's request to hold one sweeping trial for all 19 of the co-defendants. cnn's nick valencia is live outside the courthouse, and nick, you were inside that room for this hearing and there were other attorneys for people who were not there trying to get their cases severed, jeffrey clark, rudy giuliani, other attorneys in the room. what did you all see? >> katelyn, we saw the attorney for kathy latham. there were a handful of attorneys there who had a very vested interest into how this would play out and how scott mcafee, the judge in this case, would handle the trial going forward. the big headline out of what happened in court is the judge, mcafee, denying the motion for kenneth chesebro to sever his case from the former campaign, and sydney powell will go forward for the o
. >> that was the ruling from the judge scott mcafee when pro-trump lawyer kenneth chesebro and former trump campaign lawyer sydney powell will stand trial now on october 23rd. the question, of course, is will any additional defendants be standing next to them? the judge said he was, quote, very skeptical of the state's request to hold one sweeping trial for all 19 of the co-defendants. cnn's nick valencia is live outside the courthouse, and nick, you were inside that room for this...
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and that is largely because, as you can see in judge mcafee's order, and there is a huge body of casesses or witness testimony, that could be brought forth by a defendant, particularly if they're looking to impeach a witness. i believe the dea and her team has already offered to provide transcripts. but in terms of speaking to the grand jurors themselves, understanding anything about the deliberations, all of that has been protected by georgia law, literally for decades. so, i'm sure there are several prosecutors in the state that are quite concerned about the precedent that this might set. >> there was the grand jury, a four person who many of us will remember, who did grant an interview, including an interview to nbc news. and then there were some other jurors who spoke to the atlanta journal-constitution, did not have their names made public. they didn't go as public as the foreperson did. and what i'm wondering is did that experience and all of the criticism that that foreperson got, for, example for granting those interviews, might that inform their experience such that none of t
and that is largely because, as you can see in judge mcafee's order, and there is a huge body of casesses or witness testimony, that could be brought forth by a defendant, particularly if they're looking to impeach a witness. i believe the dea and her team has already offered to provide transcripts. but in terms of speaking to the grand jurors themselves, understanding anything about the deliberations, all of that has been protected by georgia law, literally for decades. so, i'm sure there are...
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judge scott mcafee has not ruled on the issue yet but says he was, quote, very skeptical trial could from now. >> it just seems a bit unrealistic to think that we can handle all 19 in 40-something days. that's my initial reaction. >> today, co-defendant former white house chief of staff mark meadows filed a motion asking judge mcafee to stop all state proceedings against him until the district courts decide whether he can move his case to federal court which optimistically the judge says could take six months. judge mcafee says an october trial date means defendants could find themselves being tried twice for the same crime. >> where does that leave us in the middle of a jury trial? double jeopardy attached. >> have you now risked your entire prosecution because this case has now been removed to federal court and we have sworn in a jury and been presenting evidence against all these other co-defendants? >> judge mcafee did grant attorneys and co-defendant sidney powell and kenneth chess bro a speedy trial date of october 23rd as is their right under georgia law. pair will be tried to
judge scott mcafee has not ruled on the issue yet but says he was, quote, very skeptical trial could from now. >> it just seems a bit unrealistic to think that we can handle all 19 in 40-something days. that's my initial reaction. >> today, co-defendant former white house chief of staff mark meadows filed a motion asking judge mcafee to stop all state proceedings against him until the district courts decide whether he can move his case to federal court which optimistically the judge...
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it seems to be judged mcafee and congressman jim jordan and other critics have forgotten who d.a.is, and what exactly she has accomplished in her time in office. so, allow me a moment to remind folks of her track record. we're almost 20 years in a prosecutor, fani willis has led more than 100 jury trials. she is an expert in r.i.c.o. cases and then, forget he prosecuted one of georgia's largest criminal cases involving a cheating scandal and the atlanta public school system. in fact, since becoming chief prosecutor, willis's office is, wilson's conviction right for the d.a.'s office has stood close to 90%. the conviction rights matter, because prosecutors only bring cases they believe that they can win. so, they said. so, look. why are folks and saying that fani willis is in over her head or she is biting off more than she can to? and why the special counsel jack smith escape any scrutiny for his strategy? he also is bringing a case against the former president. he seemed to avoid the same level of scrutiny. many folks just took jack smith at his word. that he knew what he was doi
it seems to be judged mcafee and congressman jim jordan and other critics have forgotten who d.a.is, and what exactly she has accomplished in her time in office. so, allow me a moment to remind folks of her track record. we're almost 20 years in a prosecutor, fani willis has led more than 100 jury trials. she is an expert in r.i.c.o. cases and then, forget he prosecuted one of georgia's largest criminal cases involving a cheating scandal and the atlanta public school system. in fact, since...
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is it going to affect how things proceed with judge mcafee, joyce?t to envision the logistics of this many cases being severed from each other? >> right, so the bottom line here, katie, is if you don't want to be tried with people you should not commit crimes with them. you don't get to sever your case from codefendants just because you don't like it or in chesebro's case, he says he and sidney powell never exchanged text messages or emails. that's not how this works. if you are part of a conspiracy, the presumption, is your cases should be tried together. although here, it's likely we will have two different groups. the early group, that wants a speedy trial, and a later group that wants more time to prepare. >> yeah, but, joyce assuming choose burrow gets his wears and doesn't actually get to try his case with sydney powell, which is what he wants,. he doesn't want to be with her. does that mean fani willis has to get up time and time again and prove the case over and over again for each individual trial? >> well, it would and that is one of the re
is it going to affect how things proceed with judge mcafee, joyce?t to envision the logistics of this many cases being severed from each other? >> right, so the bottom line here, katie, is if you don't want to be tried with people you should not commit crimes with them. you don't get to sever your case from codefendants just because you don't like it or in chesebro's case, he says he and sidney powell never exchanged text messages or emails. that's not how this works. if you are part of a...
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today, judge scott mcafee, officially separated miss powell in mr. chesebro's trials from the rest of the people charged in this case. judge mcafee wrote in his order, separating these trials is a procedural and logistical inevitability. and that additional divisions of the 17 defendants may well be required. so, we may get to see this case broken up into even more smaller groups of cases. which sounds easy, it sounds reasonable, it also happens to be on believably come polluted. it is literally the most head spinning version of trial tetris you have ever seen. here are the 19 defendants in this case. as i mentioned before, kenneth chesebro, sydney powell, will now officially be tried together. and separately, for everyone else. as for the other 17, donald trump, john eastman, jeffrey clark, fake electors sean still, david schaffer, and voter fraud conspiracy, robert chilly. they want their cases split off from everybody who wants a speedy trial. so, far is just kenneth chesebro and sidney powell. rudy giuliani, meanwhile, doesn't want to be tried al
today, judge scott mcafee, officially separated miss powell in mr. chesebro's trials from the rest of the people charged in this case. judge mcafee wrote in his order, separating these trials is a procedural and logistical inevitability. and that additional divisions of the 17 defendants may well be required. so, we may get to see this case broken up into even more smaller groups of cases. which sounds easy, it sounds reasonable, it also happens to be on believably come polluted. it is...
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what's your reaction, paul, to this decision from judge mcafee?are beginning to see outlines how he will proceed. >> it's huge. the judge said that the trial for chesebro and powell will be starting in late october. jury selection will be completed by november 3rd, which means that we're going to have this trial this year. the judge said that there may be other severances. that means there will be at least two trials in fulton county and possibly three or maybe even four. >> ken, take us through that from what you know. what does that mean? who else could end up with other severances, other early trials? what does this all do to pushing donald trump's back? >> it's hard to know exactly how that shakes out, andrea, except that we know that donald trump wants to delay this as long as possible. this does play into his hands, to the extent other defendants are arguing that they are separate for various reasons. you heard sidney powell's lawyer argue that she does not belong in the case. he referenced this incident where some election data was accessed
what's your reaction, paul, to this decision from judge mcafee?are beginning to see outlines how he will proceed. >> it's huge. the judge said that the trial for chesebro and powell will be starting in late october. jury selection will be completed by november 3rd, which means that we're going to have this trial this year. the judge said that there may be other severances. that means there will be at least two trials in fulton county and possibly three or maybe even four. >> ken,...
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and today, with cameras giving us our first look inside of the courtroom, judge scott mcafee says that they will not get salute trial. cnn's paula reid starts off our coverage. >> based on what has been presented today, i am not finding the severance from mr. chesbrough it is necessary for other defendant in this case. >> fulton county superior court judge, scott mcafee, in court wednesday, giving the first glimpse into how he plans to handle the sweeping election subversion case in georgia. all in front of cameras allowed in the courtroom. mcafee, ruling wednesday, but defendant kenneth chesebro and sidney powell, who both filed for a speedy trial, cannot be separated and will stand trial together in a matter of weeks. >> obviously we are a little disappointed. we filed a motion and it was denied, however, we respect the courts ruling. >> now, the issue before the court will be whether it is realistic that all 19 defendants, including former president donald trump, be tried together. >> to say that all 19 defendant should be tried together, including ones that do not want to avail the
and today, with cameras giving us our first look inside of the courtroom, judge scott mcafee says that they will not get salute trial. cnn's paula reid starts off our coverage. >> based on what has been presented today, i am not finding the severance from mr. chesbrough it is necessary for other defendant in this case. >> fulton county superior court judge, scott mcafee, in court wednesday, giving the first glimpse into how he plans to handle the sweeping election subversion case in...
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mcafee may be a young judge, but he is a former prosecutor. and he was very skeptical about the prosecution's timeline for the rest of the case. >> reporter: that's exactly right. for the first time, the district attorney said that she wanted to try all 19 defendants together. there have been so many questions about whether that is logistically possible. and the judge really brought that to the forefront today saying, look, i don't know if it's possible to do all at one time. and the timeline right now is october 23rd. sidney powell, kenneth chesebro will go to trial. and the judge needs to decide officially whether the other 19 defendants, including trump, will be there alongside him. he's asked for additional briefings, but we know other defendants have asked to sever their cases. anderson, it appears highly unlikely that we're going to see all 19 defendants do to trial on october 23rd. but one significant development we saw late today, the district attorney, fani willis, asked the court to issue protections for any prospective jurors. this
mcafee may be a young judge, but he is a former prosecutor. and he was very skeptical about the prosecution's timeline for the rest of the case. >> reporter: that's exactly right. for the first time, the district attorney said that she wanted to try all 19 defendants together. there have been so many questions about whether that is logistically possible. and the judge really brought that to the forefront today saying, look, i don't know if it's possible to do all at one time. and the...
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judge scott mcafee is saying more like eight months. means that donald trump and his lawyers are going to get an early look at the evidence at the prosecution's strategy for this case. that's a real advantage for them, and then we're going to go to questions about the other defendants, because many defendants are trying to sever themselves away from the main body in this trial. the d.a. is pushing to have as many people tried together as possible. there's precedent for that. once brought a case in a school cheating scandal where she tried 12 defendants at once. one thing that's clear is that even though this early trial will happen in the fall, donald trump is not likely to be setting in the defendant's dock in georgia for some time. >> ken dilanian, thank you. joining us now is msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin. let's play a moment from the court today that got a little heated. this was regarding discovery materials. let's play it. it's coming. well, okay. again, our tapes sometimes take a little while to load. chesebro's lawyers were sa
judge scott mcafee is saying more like eight months. means that donald trump and his lawyers are going to get an early look at the evidence at the prosecution's strategy for this case. that's a real advantage for them, and then we're going to go to questions about the other defendants, because many defendants are trying to sever themselves away from the main body in this trial. the d.a. is pushing to have as many people tried together as possible. there's precedent for that. once brought a case...
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judge mcafee has made very clear he is not going to slow walk this case. he does not appear ready to let donald trump push this case into the distant future, which means that 2024 is going to be a very, very busy year. buckle up. joining me now is neil katyal, former acting solicitor-general for the obama administration, and christie greenberg, a former federal prosecutor in the southern district of new york. christie, it just seems inevitable the 17 others are going to be 1 divided up, but a we pointed out through the extensive and may i say sophisticated graphics department on this program, tw dividing up the 17 is tetris hell. >> when i prosecuted large cases having 20 to 30 people in the case, usually the judge will ask for some input about the groupings of defendants, say if the evidence is all related to the coffey county scheme, for example, would it make sense to try allma those defendants together so you're getting an overlap in the accounts and evidence the jury is going to be hearing, same for other schemes. you've got very discreet schemes even
judge mcafee has made very clear he is not going to slow walk this case. he does not appear ready to let donald trump push this case into the distant future, which means that 2024 is going to be a very, very busy year. buckle up. joining me now is neil katyal, former acting solicitor-general for the obama administration, and christie greenberg, a former federal prosecutor in the southern district of new york. christie, it just seems inevitable the 17 others are going to be 1 divided up, but a...
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sever the case so she can get a fair trial. >> judge mcafee was not buying that. he said they did not meet the legal standard to separate their cases. now the plan is to make their october 23rd trial date stick. we could hear more from the judge, mcafee, overseeing all of this soon about the rest of the trial and what it looks like. what does this mean for donald trump? he was seen in new york city this morning, today, emerging from trump tower after saying in an interview that he will happily testify on the stand in his own defense. first, i am joined by former governor duncan, and former prosecutor elie honig. we watched these arguments from the attorneys, getting a sense of what the prosecutors said. >> it was so interesting. it brought me back to my prosecutor days. the biggest takeaway, the defendants had a really wanted to get away from each other got away from each other. now, sidney powell and kenneth cheseboro who want their speedy trial, they were not able to get away from one another. to me that's not a big deal. so they'll be tried together. that doesn
sever the case so she can get a fair trial. >> judge mcafee was not buying that. he said they did not meet the legal standard to separate their cases. now the plan is to make their october 23rd trial date stick. we could hear more from the judge, mcafee, overseeing all of this soon about the rest of the trial and what it looks like. what does this mean for donald trump? he was seen in new york city this morning, today, emerging from trump tower after saying in an interview that he will...
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first of all, the judge it to mcafee is going to be hearing argument as to separating the trials off at this stage, at least 2 of the defendants. trump, a line lawyer is kenneth chase bra and sydney paul. now they are asking the judge to separate the case, to hear them individually saying that they are not connected to many of the mold and 40 indictments that have been brought against the 19 accused. now the judge is also going to hear from the district attorney as to how long she thinks it will take to get a trial underway in different scenarios. firstly, trying old 19 defendants together and then breaking up old, breaking up defendants into groups says the judge is going to be asking him how long all of that is going to take now in the same co task. another judge is also mulling over another meta stephen jones is considering an application, broad 5 form, a chief of staff, ma meadows to remove the case out of the georgia court into a federal court. the intention is, would appear from meadows used to then get a federal whole to rule that the charges must be dropped because as a feder
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it took superior judge scott mcafee, less than 2 hours to come to a decision. you rejected the arguments of trumpet lines, lawyers kind of chest breath and sydney paul, so that they should be tried singly and separately in this record tearing cases a. i am not finding the severance from mister drawer. powell is necessary to achieve a fair determination of the guilt or innocence for either defendant in this case, prostitute his wont oh, defendants tried to get in late october. they told the judge that the trial would take the same amount of time whether it was for 2 or 19 defendants. and the judge has austin to appear on tuesday next week to present further argument to support the case judge. we contain that we must prove the entire conspiracy against each, and every one charged each and every one charged. so the court in the interest of judicial economy would have to make the decision as to whether or not the court wants to try the same case. 19 times, the prosecution says that expects the trial to take full months off the jury selection night and that more tha
it took superior judge scott mcafee, less than 2 hours to come to a decision. you rejected the arguments of trumpet lines, lawyers kind of chest breath and sydney paul, so that they should be tried singly and separately in this record tearing cases a. i am not finding the severance from mister drawer. powell is necessary to achieve a fair determination of the guilt or innocence for either defendant in this case, prostitute his wont oh, defendants tried to get in late october. they told the...
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for those judging, mcafee is likely to take a final decision on this trial date and update. here's from prosecutors next tuesday. think that there was in montana. oh, just era. that's what i'm to a still a head here on out to 0 least that he, one people have died as a powerful storm boxes, something for them. and a court martial of 6 soldiers is underway in democratic republic of congress for their involvement and machining $56.00. the low good to see there's been quite a bit of hits in iran and iraq as the temperature is closing on 50 degrees. hey everyone, here is a big picture on thursday. we've got this wind coming down from iraq. it's going to stir up this sound in does for the eastern providence of saudi arabia. we go in for a closer look around the gulf states, still seeing this persistent breeze off the golf for us here in dough. so you know the name of the game, right? that means it's a shame that picture. once again on thursday, off the bucket started. it's quiet, we did have a pretty intense hail storm the other day in the capital territory. so for as long as boug
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so we have some inquiry call for an inquiry by mcafee. what do you think the chances are that i should get the votes that it needs to be launched as well. uh, you know, as far as the, you know, the, the, the house of representatives is concerned. it's much easier because republicans have the majority there. i know that there is some concern, you know, from more centrist, because to interest republicans. but i think that overall, this inquiry, it needs to happen. there's, there's so much evidence has come out and i think there's even more that needs to come to light. now regarding the overall culture of corruption, when it comes to jo, mind and it is in his son hunter, for example of me. we've learned over this these past years. so why not investigated? why not bring it to light? as the previous trellis was suggesting, like there was the, you know, the god, these are the tax on trump previously went to impeachment that were, had much less evidence, frankly, than what we see now with the windshield light. and so i don't see why we would be
so we have some inquiry call for an inquiry by mcafee. what do you think the chances are that i should get the votes that it needs to be launched as well. uh, you know, as far as the, you know, the, the, the house of representatives is concerned. it's much easier because republicans have the majority there. i know that there is some concern, you know, from more centrist, because to interest republicans. but i think that overall, this inquiry, it needs to happen. there's, there's so much...
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one of those judge mcafee is likely to take a final decision on this trial. date of the here's from prosecute is next tuesday. think that there was in montana. oh, just the era. that's what i'm to the full and they a mexico city has been picked as the governing parties presidential candidate for next year's election. claudia, shame boom is a storage allies. the mexican president on the manual lopez open the door means mexico could elect its 1st female president. in june of next year, last week the oppositional line selected 6 year old citizens, so chill galvis is the candidate. in september of 2021, the small central american country of all salvador was a fast to make crypto cards he bitcoin legal tend. it's have mixed results, tourism is up, but it seems not many people actually use it john home and has taken a look at the experiments on it. second anniversary, it is now 2 years since el salvador became the 1st country in the world to introduce bitcoin as legal tend along with its regular currency the dollar. so has the experiment succeeded. the general verd
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he's now gone from the owner from judge mcafee.ense council ordered to file a list of proposed gran jury questions the currents will file an orde listing all approved and which are good questions the court ruled an independent of each to write to -- interviews will become a recor in the past the courts - these are the grand jurors, no the ones who invented him bu the special grand jury, right? >> no, these are the actual -- >> this is the second. one gotcha >> what i asked for transcript of all special purpose grand jury interviews. they are not going to get that they're going to get that only insofar as the state has com to offer some of them as witnesses. but with respect to thes interviews, these are all th actual grand jury, is people who signed the true bill here. these are they got vials tha scott mcafee has put around. and my dad, he's always my goo barometer for what mcconnell people pick up this. my dad was a hostile principle he tweeted today, said, what i this nonsense? what is this nonsense? and i said, look at all th d
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break up the broad 19 defendant rico case, in a separate filing, trump's lawyers act judge scott mcafee to sever his case from his codefendants who have asked for a speedy trial. at least two defendants have done that, former trump loyal sidney powell and kenneth chesebro. chesebro has been scheduled for october 23rd. like trump, they've asked to have their cases tried separately from others. as trump and his codefendants push for their preferences, fulton county d. a. fani willis is his having none of it. and is standing firm in her request to have all 19 defendants tried together. in a court filing on tuesday, willis asked judge mcafee to clarify the trial schedule in writing, quote, the state maintains its position that severance is improper at an absolute minimum, the court should set defendant powell's trial and that of another defendant who may file a speedy trial demand on the same date as defendant chesebro. as of now, it remains unclear whether the other defendants would be tried on that same date. but as willis worked to keep her case intact, she is also facing attacks from tr
break up the broad 19 defendant rico case, in a separate filing, trump's lawyers act judge scott mcafee to sever his case from his codefendants who have asked for a speedy trial. at least two defendants have done that, former trump loyal sidney powell and kenneth chesebro. chesebro has been scheduled for october 23rd. like trump, they've asked to have their cases tried separately from others. as trump and his codefendants push for their preferences, fulton county d. a. fani willis is his having...
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. >> today, donald trump's criminal defense lawyers and george of lower old motion with judge mcafeeming the court that donald trump quote, may seek removal of his prosecution to federal court. back with us, former federal prosecutors andrew weissmann and mary mccord. oh andrew weissmann, i don't understand a filing that says, i might do something. why doesn't it just say, we are making a motion to remove to federal court? >> well, it certainly is very odd. that was my first reaction, is a judge would be like, you know what, why don't you let me know when you've made the decision? i don't really need to know what you're contemplating. but i think this is the reason. donald trump has 30 days in which to make a motion to remove, and since his whole game plan is delay, he is going to file that no matter what he's now saying about what he may or may not, but he's going to wait until the very last day. so he just pushes things out. so every single day, this is a race against the clock, so he's going to push that out to the very last day. but then you might say, why file anything now? and
. >> today, donald trump's criminal defense lawyers and george of lower old motion with judge mcafeeming the court that donald trump quote, may seek removal of his prosecution to federal court. back with us, former federal prosecutors andrew weissmann and mary mccord. oh andrew weissmann, i don't understand a filing that says, i might do something. why doesn't it just say, we are making a motion to remove to federal court? >> well, it certainly is very odd. that was my first...