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as opposed to mccabe. i mean, after we found out everything we know about mccabe at this point, i'd trust robert mueller to get it right. i'm not sure i trust mccabe to get something like this right. >> you think this new reporting puts rosenstein in peril? >> well, it's a rehash of what we heard before about the wire tap, and then we know since that time he met with the president and there was widespread speculation he would be fired, and he wasn't. so it looks like they cleared the air on that point. but sure, i think anytime your name is in a news article that the president's going to hate, you know, you're going to have an anxiety-filled night. we'll see what happens. but they've met since this came out and he's still in his job. >> does this give you any sort of pause as a supporter of the president, any of this reporting, that four months in, you know -- >> i mean, look -- >> -- obstruction, wearing a wire? >> i don't feel like we know anything we didn't already know, which is at the beginning of thi
as opposed to mccabe. i mean, after we found out everything we know about mccabe at this point, i'd trust robert mueller to get it right. i'm not sure i trust mccabe to get something like this right. >> you think this new reporting puts rosenstein in peril? >> well, it's a rehash of what we heard before about the wire tap, and then we know since that time he met with the president and there was widespread speculation he would be fired, and he wasn't. so it looks like they cleared...
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mccabe didn't think.trzok of all people, he didn't think so, and he interviewed lieutenant general flynn. 33 years of service, five years in combat in iraq and afghanistan. and this is the treatment?t? this is the thanks this country gives him? this is what -- this is how we treat people? what kind of justice system is this? his house nearly faced bankruptcy, literally and his world crashes before him and his entire family, and i would bet any amount of money that the only reason he signed this deal was, well, it's the same old system. well, we might have to go after your son, worked with you and then we are going to invoke the logan act, which nobody invokes, to go after him. so he could have made,m. instead of serving his country in the private sector, a lot more money. but now he has to sell his house, literally fall on the sword for his family. and don't forget, we know that they got through, what, a lot of this information, through what? we knew he was the victim of illegal surveillance, illegal unma
mccabe didn't think.trzok of all people, he didn't think so, and he interviewed lieutenant general flynn. 33 years of service, five years in combat in iraq and afghanistan. and this is the treatment?t? this is the thanks this country gives him? this is what -- this is how we treat people? what kind of justice system is this? his house nearly faced bankruptcy, literally and his world crashes before him and his entire family, and i would bet any amount of money that the only reason he signed this...
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mccabe who soon would be fired for lying told him this. during the meeting, flynn was casually questioned by two fbi agents including -- there he is -- peter strzok, you know, the guy that loathed donald trump, the man that said hillary clinton should win 100 million, his hero. the man with the insurance policy and the media leak strategy against the new president. should he happen to win, the man that was ultimately fired because of his anti-trump bias. and that is known as a 302. agents did not on purpose warn general flynn about any potential crimes and they didn't ask him to explain or clarify any inconsistencies in his answers and because they wanted him to be quote relaxed. this is by its very definition a perjury trap. you don't tell somebody you're not really investigating and you don't need a lawyer. as we speak, michael flynn's life has been hold a long time. he's awaiting sentencing for allegedly lying to investigators during that meeting. a meeting so unusual that even fired fbi director james comey himself has now admitted was
mccabe who soon would be fired for lying told him this. during the meeting, flynn was casually questioned by two fbi agents including -- there he is -- peter strzok, you know, the guy that loathed donald trump, the man that said hillary clinton should win 100 million, his hero. the man with the insurance policy and the media leak strategy against the new president. should he happen to win, the man that was ultimately fired because of his anti-trump bias. and that is known as a 302. agents did...
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we know this because andy mccabe took notes.n notes he explained he told mike flynn he wanted to interview him as quickly, quietly and discreetly as possible. mccabe suggested having a lawyer, one of the pesky attorneys present, would be unnecessary and time consuming, hassle. don't worry about it, man. flynn and a close associate who described him as trusting agreed to the terms. a mistake. he thought he was helping the f.b.i. he wasn't. he was walking into a trap. one of the agents he met was peter strozk. remember the name? he is the political activist who famously promised his mistress he'd help stop trump. whatever that means. we are getting a sense of what it means, actually. according to the f.b.i. own documents, andrew mccabe and peter strozk and the rest decided that the f.b.i. agents should not warn flynn making misleading statement to the f.b.i. would be a crime. the analysis suggests that somehow flynn knew this and he must have been a moron for not bringing a lawyer and since he ran an intelligence agency he must ha
we know this because andy mccabe took notes.n notes he explained he told mike flynn he wanted to interview him as quickly, quietly and discreetly as possible. mccabe suggested having a lawyer, one of the pesky attorneys present, would be unnecessary and time consuming, hassle. don't worry about it, man. flynn and a close associate who described him as trusting agreed to the terms. a mistake. he thought he was helping the f.b.i. he wasn't. he was walking into a trap. one of the agents he met was...
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when andrew mccabe, the acting director of the fbi, first interviewed the general about these things and they had their first round of meetings, the fbi didn't think he was lying. his lawyers are making a very big point of that in here. we're going to keep processing. we'll have more during the show. we have something set up for you now that you'll need to process. thunder dome is a new part of our political reality. two sides enter but only one can leave with a win. now, the president on one side, the president of the united states, the master of message and in-your-face fictions and on the other, his new foe, the nan-chuck, nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, wearing smiles and a bunch of new power, ready to give the man some of his own medicine. >> one thing i think we should agree on is we shouldn't shut down the government over a dispute. you want to shut it down. you keep talking about it. >> the last time, chuck, you shut it down. i don't want to do what you did. >> 20 times you have called for i will shut down the government if i don't get my -- >> you want to know something? >>
when andrew mccabe, the acting director of the fbi, first interviewed the general about these things and they had their first round of meetings, the fbi didn't think he was lying. his lawyers are making a very big point of that in here. we're going to keep processing. we'll have more during the show. we have something set up for you now that you'll need to process. thunder dome is a new part of our political reality. two sides enter but only one can leave with a win. now, the president on one...
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one is being recommended for criminal prosecution by the doj, that being mccabe. >> mr. comey is a master of projection, judge. he is so good at recusing president trump and a republicas of exactly what he himself and his cohorts are guilty of. lawbreaking, lying, corruption, being uninterested in the truth. he is deflecting from his own activities by accusing the president and his associates of doing the same thing. james comey is the personification of the deep state. totally ruthless, unaccountable, surroundedwo by acolytes and flunkies and has assumed throughout this entire amount of timeun to be untestable, except they never accepted president trump to win. and now, they are being ambushed by history, and that is why you are seeing them double down on the aggression and accusing the president and his team of what they themselves are guilty of. >> judge jeanine: it certainly is projection. dan, is jim comey getting away with it? is the fact that we all know is a friend of bob mueller, will he get away with all of the things that he has done and his corrupt upper eche
one is being recommended for criminal prosecution by the doj, that being mccabe. >> mr. comey is a master of projection, judge. he is so good at recusing president trump and a republicas of exactly what he himself and his cohorts are guilty of. lawbreaking, lying, corruption, being uninterested in the truth. he is deflecting from his own activities by accusing the president and his associates of doing the same thing. james comey is the personification of the deep state. totally ruthless,...
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both mccabe and strzok have been fired for misconduct.e bring it up because the viewer and the american people the polls show are wondering when are policies going to get fictioned in washington? instead we have things like this going on. >> we need to get to the serious business of poll is, funding the wall, healthcare and funding the government. this level of misconduct at the -- oj and fbi are important to root out because it affects our entire republic. he had 10 of them fired or removed. so we have to do more. but i think criminal prosecutions need to go on. but that's the doj's parameters. they told me they would do so under testimony in congress. but they have not done it. congress has to continue its investigation. give the information over to the doj and ask for prosecution. if we can't get prosecution we need to get a different special counsel who will prosecute the case. we have been pushing for it and it just hasn't happened. liz: e.u. leaders confirmed the brexit agreement with bring taken is quote not open for negotiation de
both mccabe and strzok have been fired for misconduct.e bring it up because the viewer and the american people the polls show are wondering when are policies going to get fictioned in washington? instead we have things like this going on. >> we need to get to the serious business of poll is, funding the wall, healthcare and funding the government. this level of misconduct at the -- oj and fbi are important to root out because it affects our entire republic. he had 10 of them fired or...
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mccabe literally told the general general flynn, a lawyer was not necessary. mccabe told him this.uring the meeting, flynn was casually questioned by two fbi agents, including, there he is, peter strzok. you know, the guy that loathed donald trump, the man is that hillary clinton should win 100 million to zero, the man with the insurance policy and the media leak strategy against the new president. should he happen to them, the guy that was ultimately fired because of extreme anti-trumped bias. according to the fbi's report of the meeting, that is known as a 302, where they discussed the meeting with someone they talk to. it's called the 302. agents did not come on purpose, one general plan about any potential crimes. they didn't ask him to explain or clarify any inconsistencies in his answers, and because they wanted him to be "relaxed," this is, by its very definition, a perjury trap. you don't tell somebody you really are investigating, let's put them in a relaxed position, let them talk to us and then, by the way, you don't need a lawyer. as we speak, lieutenant general michael
mccabe literally told the general general flynn, a lawyer was not necessary. mccabe told him this.uring the meeting, flynn was casually questioned by two fbi agents, including, there he is, peter strzok. you know, the guy that loathed donald trump, the man is that hillary clinton should win 100 million to zero, the man with the insurance policy and the media leak strategy against the new president. should he happen to them, the guy that was ultimately fired because of extreme anti-trumped bias....
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to the united states, mccabe confirmed they would. in other words, they told him in advance, you've been saying you didn't talk to sergey kislyak, the russian ambassador. we're about to ask you about that. he said all right. during the interview, the fbi agents gave the defendant multiple opportunities to correct his false statements by re-visiting key questions. when the defendant said he did not remember something that he said, they used the exact words that the defendant had used in order to prompt a truthful response. the interview was voluntary. lacked any coercion. when arranging the interview, the defendant agreed to speak to two fbi agents. they agreed to conduct the interview in his office. the defendant was relaxed and jocular and he lied through his teeth about the contacts with sergey kislyak. chris wallace is live with us. we know the details, chris. we don't know the why. >> no, we don't. i certainly agree with what you're suggesting and also with what the special counsel is suggesting in his statement. this is not just
to the united states, mccabe confirmed they would. in other words, they told him in advance, you've been saying you didn't talk to sergey kislyak, the russian ambassador. we're about to ask you about that. he said all right. during the interview, the fbi agents gave the defendant multiple opportunities to correct his false statements by re-visiting key questions. when the defendant said he did not remember something that he said, they used the exact words that the defendant had used in order to...
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andrew mccabe was overly aggressive in matters related to the president. i have never thought that mueller was seriously pursuing obstruction because the person overseeing him, who we're talking about here would be right smack in the middle of any such investigation. and would have had to have recused himself. i don't think rosenstein would have stuck around in this for 19 months. i think we're at 19 months now. had that been a serious pursuit of the special council, because he's literally right in the middle of their theorys of obstruction. so i don't think that's ever been seriously pursued, we talked about it a lot on this show. i don't think in the special council's office, particularly in light of article 2, that they have seriously pursued that. i think we may learn some more tomorrow, but we're going to learn it in the negative, much as we have in the past with the other things like flynn earlier this week, that didn't mention anything about russian collusion during the election. >> there's a lot of redacted stuff, we'll know more about that by this
andrew mccabe was overly aggressive in matters related to the president. i have never thought that mueller was seriously pursuing obstruction because the person overseeing him, who we're talking about here would be right smack in the middle of any such investigation. and would have had to have recused himself. i don't think rosenstein would have stuck around in this for 19 months. i think we're at 19 months now. had that been a serious pursuit of the special council, because he's literally...
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the president's an animus towards mccabe was already well known. these are career law enforcement officials. according to the reporting were considering doing this. >> well they do work for the country and the american public, even though they are appointed by the president and serve at the measure of the president, obviously. i think this raises interesting questions about what happens next with rosenstein. because you have rosenstein writing that memo saying that comey should be fired. and he is a potential witness in this case, and he's still overseeing it. we have matt whitaker, but i'm not convinced that rosenstein has withdrawn completely from this. and he hasn't. and so there's a potential conflict here for rosenstein. and from pam and jeremy's great reporting here, i think we get a sense of how frantic people were. frantic enough to be joking about wearing a wire. but also frantic enough to say this is out of control, and we need to investigate the president on obstruction. i mean, it must have been quite a scene inside the justice departme
the president's an animus towards mccabe was already well known. these are career law enforcement officials. according to the reporting were considering doing this. >> well they do work for the country and the american public, even though they are appointed by the president and serve at the measure of the president, obviously. i think this raises interesting questions about what happens next with rosenstein. because you have rosenstein writing that memo saying that comey should be fired....
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discussed a range of options including rosenstein wearing a wire, which he later denied and andrew mccabe took the extraordinary step of opening an obstruction of justice investigation. >> president trump expected to name a u.s. ambassador to the united nations today to replace nikki haley. could she be in for a tough confirmation. >>> kevin hart stepping down as host of the academy awards two days after getting the job. the reason is he refused to apologize for the past anti-gay tweets, and the uproar as everybody talking this morning. let's bring in john avlon, and phil mudd and abby phillip. a lot to get to today. we are expecting a lot to come out. abby, what we are hearing from the white house is so much expected to come to us today because it's the deadline for these memos when it comes to both paul manafort and cohen, the white house is quiet and even some reporting they are fought planning much of anything even though there's a report. what are we hearing? >> i don't think anybody should expect the white house to have much of a plan when it comes to anything coming out of the cour
discussed a range of options including rosenstein wearing a wire, which he later denied and andrew mccabe took the extraordinary step of opening an obstruction of justice investigation. >> president trump expected to name a u.s. ambassador to the united nations today to replace nikki haley. could she be in for a tough confirmation. >>> kevin hart stepping down as host of the academy awards two days after getting the job. the reason is he refused to apologize for the past anti-gay...
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let's start with the rosenstein information, really andrew mccabe, laura. sources say that rosenstein was #kidding, not kidding about the need to surveiler. that is backed up that andrew mccabe felt, after everything that involved comey's dismissal by the president, an obstruction of justice investigation was warranted. your take away? >> i think no one should be surprised that when they had this very unsermon ious firing of the head of the fbi, you would contemporaneous written memos about the pledges of loyalty and you had this discussion of why he asked the question of letting this flynn issue go, even after sally yates had come to the white house, explained that there may be a compromised national security advisor. it should come as no surprise that, one, it was a personal response. they thought that one of their own had really got the raw end of the deal. but it was a methodical and strategic and nonemotional decision. you open up an obstruction of justice claim early in time to get all the information you possibly can to get the evidence in early, to
let's start with the rosenstein information, really andrew mccabe, laura. sources say that rosenstein was #kidding, not kidding about the need to surveiler. that is backed up that andrew mccabe felt, after everything that involved comey's dismissal by the president, an obstruction of justice investigation was warranted. your take away? >> i think no one should be surprised that when they had this very unsermon ious firing of the head of the fbi, you would contemporaneous written memos...
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and his spokeswoman for mccabe did not provide a comment for the story. >> so wait.s the spokesperson for rosenstein denying an investigation was opened up? >> reporter: this -- the spokesperson for mccabe is not offering any comment for this story. if you look at the comment from a source in the justice department, this source only said that rosenstein never said that he wanted to rein in the president. he was just discussing ways in which to conduct the investigation. >> why would rosenstein okay opening a probe when it was his own memo that the white ouse was using to justify firing comey in the first place? >> reporter: that's a good question, and it's a bit puzzling. for the deputy attorney general, this obstruction investigation into trump and the appointment of the special counsel certainly turned his entire justice department tenure into the awkward role of supervising the mueller investigation after he wrote the memo justifying comey's firing, that sources say he crafted voluntarily. critics argued that the comey memo makes rosenstein a potential witness in
and his spokeswoman for mccabe did not provide a comment for the story. >> so wait.s the spokesperson for rosenstein denying an investigation was opened up? >> reporter: this -- the spokesperson for mccabe is not offering any comment for this story. if you look at the comment from a source in the justice department, this source only said that rosenstein never said that he wanted to rein in the president. he was just discussing ways in which to conduct the investigation. >> why...
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mccabe and other fbi officials, quote, decided the agents would not warn flynn that it was a crime toe during an fbi interview because they wanted flynn to be relaxed, and they were concerned that giving the warnings might adversely affect the rapport one of the agents reported. what'sing that being cited to is this footnote here in terms of these quotes what the fbi agents were thinking and what they decided. here is the footnote that explains where they're getting these quotes. certain information summarized or quoted in this memorandum derives from documents furnished to defendant's counsel pursuant to the protective order united states versus flynn, and then there is a case number. undersigned counsel conferred with the government which further represented that disclosing the represented information does not cute a violence of the protective order. flynn's counsel, they're disclosing stuff that they got from the prosecutors subject to some sort of protective order. they say they've gotten permission to disclose this stuff, but this is all new to us. all right. back to this. again,
mccabe and other fbi officials, quote, decided the agents would not warn flynn that it was a crime toe during an fbi interview because they wanted flynn to be relaxed, and they were concerned that giving the warnings might adversely affect the rapport one of the agents reported. what'sing that being cited to is this footnote here in terms of these quotes what the fbi agents were thinking and what they decided. here is the footnote that explains where they're getting these quotes. certain...
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mccabe, by his own account, stated that he felt, quote, we needed to have two of our agents sit downgeneral flynn to talk about his communications with russian representatives. mr. mccabe's account states, i explained that i thought the quickest way to get this done was to have a conversation between general flynn and the agents only. if general flynn wished to include anyone else in the meeting, i would need to involve the department of justice. general flynn stated this would not be necessary and agreed to meet the fbi agents without any additional participants. less than two hours later, at 2:15 p.m., fbi deputy director peter strzok and a second fbi agent arrived at the white house to interview general flynn. by the agents' account, general flynn was relaxed and jocular, and offered to give the agents a little tour of the area around his west wing office. the agents did not provide general flynn with a warning of the penalties for making a false statement before, during, or after the interview. this is a new material claim in the flynn defense. he is having this fbi interview und
mccabe, by his own account, stated that he felt, quote, we needed to have two of our agents sit downgeneral flynn to talk about his communications with russian representatives. mr. mccabe's account states, i explained that i thought the quickest way to get this done was to have a conversation between general flynn and the agents only. if general flynn wished to include anyone else in the meeting, i would need to involve the department of justice. general flynn stated this would not be necessary...
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the fact that andrew mccabe was fired, peter strzok was fired, not only just fired, but andrew mccabe has been referred for criminal by the attorney in washington, d.c. those are big develop meds. the question is now how christopher wray decides to bring other people in, to ensure that their political biases are not getting into their work. it's a huge deal. i want to say, based on the way washington, d.c., works, usually "groove screw up and move it." people have been fired as a result. it's one step but no mike torta. >> melissa: the federal reserve, the president wants the bank to stop hiking interest rates. the fed has a big decision to make. what will it be? and what it means politically for the economy and more importantly your wallet. the hits keep on coming for facebook -- the new privacy scandal rocking the social media giant that could be the worst one yet. just how safe is your info? not at all. whether companies like facebook need to be reined in. >> congress is going to have to regulate them, and stop this. i hate to do it but, by god, i will if they can't clean up their
the fact that andrew mccabe was fired, peter strzok was fired, not only just fired, but andrew mccabe has been referred for criminal by the attorney in washington, d.c. those are big develop meds. the question is now how christopher wray decides to bring other people in, to ensure that their political biases are not getting into their work. it's a huge deal. i want to say, based on the way washington, d.c., works, usually "groove screw up and move it." people have been fired as a...
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the president and everyone else, and he and people like peter mccabe who worked for him and they are the ones that clearly tried to turn an election. >> what happened today with his disgraceful trashing of fox new fox news, and sadly he is taking the rest of the fbi down with him, to answer your question, i don't think he's going to get away with it and here's the reason why. let's not forget, there is a very specific verified procedure called the woods procedure to verify information before it goes before the pfizer cohort. we know that dossier was not verified. jim comey at some point i had to have signed off on that verification procedure for a document that we now know was a hoax. it's a paper trail, judge. >> judge pirro: i wish i were as confident as you. i don't hear any judge say i want investigation. i don't hear anyone saying they need to be held in contempt for bringing this before me, and, he was taken off the case, but there's this dirty deal, going on and nobody is looking at it. >> judge, john huber and bob barr are the last hoax on this one. i can't guarantee anything
the president and everyone else, and he and people like peter mccabe who worked for him and they are the ones that clearly tried to turn an election. >> what happened today with his disgraceful trashing of fox new fox news, and sadly he is taking the rest of the fbi down with him, to answer your question, i don't think he's going to get away with it and here's the reason why. let's not forget, there is a very specific verified procedure called the woods procedure to verify information...
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, the then deputy director and mccabe said flynn told him during the phone conversation that mccabe wasobably aware of what the fbi -- of what was said in that conversation with kislyak. he said to mccabe, well, you probably know what we talked about. so this was before he was interviewed by the fbi. so it's unclear and puzzling, frankly, why flynn would proceed to make false statements in his fbi interview if he thought the fbi knew the truth. knew what they had discussed. >> puzzling indeed. why did he lie is still the giant unanswered question here. pamela brown, thanks very much. >> thank you. >>> joining us now, two top former officials at the fbi, phil mudd and josh campbell who were special assistant to james comey. phil, there's this notion being put forward by the president that flynn was somehow convinced into lying by the fbi. doesn't seem that way from these documents. >> what do you mean it doesn't seem that way? it's not that way. let's not dance around this. he already lied before. he had his story down. he lied to vice president pence and sean spicer. so no surprise he w
, the then deputy director and mccabe said flynn told him during the phone conversation that mccabe wasobably aware of what the fbi -- of what was said in that conversation with kislyak. he said to mccabe, well, you probably know what we talked about. so this was before he was interviewed by the fbi. so it's unclear and puzzling, frankly, why flynn would proceed to make false statements in his fbi interview if he thought the fbi knew the truth. knew what they had discussed. >> puzzling...
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who suggested that flynn get a lawyer and then the 302 of mccabe makes it clear that mccabe is the one who said, you don't need a lawyer, it will only take more time. >> absolutely, judge. i was there at the courthouse today and i want to talk about a few things that relate to comey as well. when i talked to the prosecutor, one of the things they said, it was about the logan act and the prosecutors brought that up. could this have been a crime? well, maybe the logan act, and the judge laughed after that. then you look at comey's testimony and he says, the reason we want to question flynn was because of vice president mike pence said a statement that we knew not to be true. they never go to vice president pence and say, these aren't true. instead, they send two agents. there is no attorney for flynn, and he's out there talking to them at the request of mccabe and comey keeps getting caught in lie after lie or he keeps changing his testimony. >> judge jeanine: the amazing part is when the judge seems to be pushing flynn, do you want to withdraw your plea, everything we had seen up to thi
who suggested that flynn get a lawyer and then the 302 of mccabe makes it clear that mccabe is the one who said, you don't need a lawyer, it will only take more time. >> absolutely, judge. i was there at the courthouse today and i want to talk about a few things that relate to comey as well. when i talked to the prosecutor, one of the things they said, it was about the logan act and the prosecutors brought that up. could this have been a crime? well, maybe the logan act, and the judge...
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then director mccabe led him to continue to believe that. don't lie to the fbi whether you're under oath or not, but at the same time, this seems to raise a lot of questions that need to be answered. we're waiting for judge emmett sullivan to release all this information and so much more. john jordan from stanford, thank you. >>> we will, of course, have much more on this story all weekend long, tomorrow on sunday morning futures maria bartiromo gets reaction from house intelligence committee chairman devin nuÑes. also on fox news sunday, chris wallace will be talking with the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, about these latest developments and so much more. arthel: well, france remains on edge as thousands of yellow vest protesters take to the streets of paris for a fifth weekend. we're live on the scene straight ahead. ♪ ♪ ( ♪ ) dealing with psoriatic arthritis pain was so frustrating. my skin... it was embarrassing. my joints... they hurt. the pain and swelling. the tenderness. the psoriasis. tina: i had to find something that worked on
then director mccabe led him to continue to believe that. don't lie to the fbi whether you're under oath or not, but at the same time, this seems to raise a lot of questions that need to be answered. we're waiting for judge emmett sullivan to release all this information and so much more. john jordan from stanford, thank you. >>> we will, of course, have much more on this story all weekend long, tomorrow on sunday morning futures maria bartiromo gets reaction from house intelligence...
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the filing also came to my mccabe discouraged glenn from having a lawyer president. by contrast, flynn's legal teams that other witnesses were warned of the serious nature of the probe. over the weekend, comey said he was directly involved, because he believed flynn's statement about his contact conflicted with his work. >> something i wouldn't have done or gotten away with, in a more organized investigation. a more organized administration. in the george w. bush administration, for example, or the obama administration. >> last year, call comey and mccabe told him that fbi agents reported no signs of deception from the flynn interview. despite the guilty plea, the president, who warily comments about flynn, told fox he believes his former aide was pressured. >> president trump: they convinced him he did lie and made some kind of deal, now they are preventing no time. they are embarrassed i got caught. >> he has a record of calling out prosecutorial misconduct. his order put flynn's legal team on a tight timeline for the sentences is scheduled for tuesday, shannon pai
the filing also came to my mccabe discouraged glenn from having a lawyer president. by contrast, flynn's legal teams that other witnesses were warned of the serious nature of the probe. over the weekend, comey said he was directly involved, because he believed flynn's statement about his contact conflicted with his work. >> something i wouldn't have done or gotten away with, in a more organized investigation. a more organized administration. in the george w. bush administration, for...
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mccabe said don't worry about it. we don't want to involve lawyers.iendly chat. the day before they leaked to the "washington post" they cleared flynn so he was comfortable. >> bret: he is the ahead of a defense agency. he knows you have to tell the truth. >> molly made a great point. he lied to the vice-president of the united states and admitted lying to the vice-president. that's the problem and the reason the president fired him. lying to the vice-president is a non-starter. >> bret: a lot to learn here. we are learning it every day. next up the friday lightning round and winners and losers. and people talking] with all the selection you'll find at bass pro shops and cabela's, deciding on the perfect gift can be challenging. ♪ [instrumental "oh christmas tree"] that's why we've made it easy with a selection of gift cards for everyone on your holiday list. they're always the right size, always the right color, and they never go out of style. they're the perfect way to give outdoor memories that'll last all year long. your insurance rates skyrocket
mccabe said don't worry about it. we don't want to involve lawyers.iendly chat. the day before they leaked to the "washington post" they cleared flynn so he was comfortable. >> bret: he is the ahead of a defense agency. he knows you have to tell the truth. >> molly made a great point. he lied to the vice-president of the united states and admitted lying to the vice-president. that's the problem and the reason the president fired him. lying to the vice-president is a...
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a spokes woman for mccabe does not provide comment for this story.stine. >> thank you so much for that. sometimes today, president trump is expected to name state debate spokes woman heather nauert as his ambassador to the united nations. setting the stage for potentially tough senate confirmation. she would replace nikki haley who reportedly sparred with other administration officials. two other top officials, secretary of state mike pompeo and mike bolton are currently pushing to downgrade the u.n. ambassador job so it is no longer a cabinet level position. >>> the latest on election fraud allegations, a cnn review of absentee ballot envelope says revealed irregularities with witness signatures in a second north carolina county. the discovery comes as democrat dan mccready withdraws his concession in a case where officials were looking at voter fraud in another county. >> the loser in this race, the democrat, dan mccready has now rescinded his concession. he no longer thinks he lost. he did lose by 905 votes. he's now wondering if those 905 votes a
a spokes woman for mccabe does not provide comment for this story.stine. >> thank you so much for that. sometimes today, president trump is expected to name state debate spokes woman heather nauert as his ambassador to the united nations. setting the stage for potentially tough senate confirmation. she would replace nikki haley who reportedly sparred with other administration officials. two other top officials, secretary of state mike pompeo and mike bolton are currently pushing to...
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i think he produced credible report on mccabe, i think we'll see mccabe indicted for lying and try toitionme others through his lies and leaks. and democrat horowitz, i have got to think he's looking hard at the fisa abuse. we aren't heard anything about it. if i would be surprised if he didn't find fisa abuse. the dossier forming the basis for fisa. opposition research. improper, inappropriate, and does taint the fisa. trish: i don't care what side of the aisle you are on. somehow a judge is presented with this dossier and nobody bothers to tell the jingt was funded by hillary clinton and her team. i mean, that's not the america we know and love nor want to live in, right, misty? >> you got it, trish. mercedes, good to see you. fresh intel on the breaking news we brought you. whistleblowers revealing the clinton foundation misused funds. the quid pro quo promises made to donors while she was secretary of state. straight ahead, newly elected democrat socialist alexandria ocasio-cortez thinks renewable energy can be the vehicle to establish economic, social and racial justice. why the left
i think he produced credible report on mccabe, i think we'll see mccabe indicted for lying and try toitionme others through his lies and leaks. and democrat horowitz, i have got to think he's looking hard at the fisa abuse. we aren't heard anything about it. if i would be surprised if he didn't find fisa abuse. the dossier forming the basis for fisa. opposition research. improper, inappropriate, and does taint the fisa. trish: i don't care what side of the aisle you are on. somehow a judge is...
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by the way neither comey, mccabe, strzok or anybody in the fbi thought he lied. but of course they put the screws to general flynn and he had to compose a lie about lying go and ed it to protect his family and to get out of the mess economically they were putting him in. do you feel any safer tonight that michael cohen is going to go to prison for a significant amount of time let's see for lying to congress? lying on a bank application? taxi loans, not paying taxes? do you feel safer knowing that manafort might spend the rest of his life behind bars because of, again, tax fraud and lies on loan applications? had nothing to do with russia? years before he met trump. do you feel safer everyone surrounding the president is seemingly targeted and those on the left get away every single day scot-free? is that the america we want to live in? take for example fired fbi director james comey and what we learned this week about him. the hill's john solomon reporting we now have email changes that prove comey and others in obama's doj committed fraud on the fisa court and u
by the way neither comey, mccabe, strzok or anybody in the fbi thought he lied. but of course they put the screws to general flynn and he had to compose a lie about lying go and ed it to protect his family and to get out of the mess economically they were putting him in. do you feel any safer tonight that michael cohen is going to go to prison for a significant amount of time let's see for lying to congress? lying on a bank application? taxi loans, not paying taxes? do you feel safer knowing...
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when mccabe opened the investigation, the question is was there a reasonable factual basis to believeolation of federal law had occurred? at that point what you had was comey's memos that there had been some problematic conversations and then the firing of james comey. so that would have been sufficient to open an obstruction investigation into which mueller later stepped in to oversee. >> yeah. john avalon, you have a different issue now, right, in that the president has fired his attorney general in part or large part because he had rec e recused himself in the investigation. he now has matt whitaker in that investigation. do we know, would we know if the new acting attorney general has already taken steps to reign in mueller and the special counsel probe? >> we do not know yet. it's the subject of, of course, much speculation. we know earlier on the president got a head's up about certain actions taken and indictments about michael kcohen pleading guilty. but but don't know the extent to which he has involved himself. he oversees that investigation. but the mueller probe and certai
when mccabe opened the investigation, the question is was there a reasonable factual basis to believeolation of federal law had occurred? at that point what you had was comey's memos that there had been some problematic conversations and then the firing of james comey. so that would have been sufficient to open an obstruction investigation into which mueller later stepped in to oversee. >> yeah. john avalon, you have a different issue now, right, in that the president has fired his...
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mccabe reacted so strongly. mr. hice: i believe what you've just said is the whole reason we're here. mr. hackney, although i appreciate your opinion, expressing why and how we need to do our oversight, what has just been said is the precise reason why we are doing oversight. and with that, mr. chairman, i yield back. mr. meadows: i thank the gentleman from georgia. the chair recognizes the ranking member of the subcommittee, mr. connolly, the gentleman from virginia. mr. connolly: thank you, mr. chairman. i swear, mr. fitton, listening to your testimony, it's like being in alice in wonderland. the idea that why are we here? so let's just put ourselves in context. because apparently none of this is happening in the real world. we just had a sentencing hearing in new york in which the president's personal attorney was given three years of jail time. this isn't speculation about what someone might have done. this is a crime admitted to. and in the sentencing it was identified explicitly that individual number one coor
mccabe reacted so strongly. mr. hice: i believe what you've just said is the whole reason we're here. mr. hackney, although i appreciate your opinion, expressing why and how we need to do our oversight, what has just been said is the precise reason why we are doing oversight. and with that, mr. chairman, i yield back. mr. meadows: i thank the gentleman from georgia. the chair recognizes the ranking member of the subcommittee, mr. connolly, the gentleman from virginia. mr. connolly: thank you,...
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of course it garnered a lot of attention because andrew mccabe, no longer with the fbi, and strzok no longer with the fbi, we know why, and he and lisa page were biassed in some of the messages, not that their investigation was biassed but the things that were said were not things flattering of the president or his team at all, and that's one of the reasons why peter strzok was no longer part of it, but those individuals have become a lightning rod for criticism, and people inside the bureau agree with that. >> i want to bring pete williams into this as well. this is a lot of documentation you have got and both of you are going through. the part that is confusing to me is we heard the sentencing recommendations for flynn were going to be relatively light. the words written here is suggesting that michael flynn, that his dishonesty should not be minimized, or the court should not minimize his deception when considering sentencing, what do you make that of? >> i make of that it's not good to insult the fbi or the special counsel, and having said all that he still deserves a sentence at
of course it garnered a lot of attention because andrew mccabe, no longer with the fbi, and strzok no longer with the fbi, we know why, and he and lisa page were biassed in some of the messages, not that their investigation was biassed but the things that were said were not things flattering of the president or his team at all, and that's one of the reasons why peter strzok was no longer part of it, but those individuals have become a lightning rod for criticism, and people inside the bureau...
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this was the deputy director at the time, andrew mccabe, who really took on this role of confronting michael flynn. and so in one of the memos they just released, details a phone call between andrew mccabe and michael flynn in which they have a conversation about his contacts with russians. and michael flynn essentially explains that he's just trying to build relationships. and then one of the key things in this memo is that michael flynn essentially tells them that, you know, he's aware they want to talk to him about these russian conversations, and flynn says that basically you probably know what was said. and how andrew mccabe basically describes it is that he then stated that i probably know -- that they probably know what they want to talk to me about. in terms of they had an idea of what these conversations were about. and then in another memo that they released, the fbi released, essentially it says that talks about the strategy that they would use in confronting michael flynn. and they say they would use the exact words flynn used if he starts to say he doesn't remember and t
this was the deputy director at the time, andrew mccabe, who really took on this role of confronting michael flynn. and so in one of the memos they just released, details a phone call between andrew mccabe and michael flynn in which they have a conversation about his contacts with russians. and michael flynn essentially explains that he's just trying to build relationships. and then one of the key things in this memo is that michael flynn essentially tells them that, you know, he's aware they...
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what stuck out to me, jake, is that the documents also say flynn told then deputy director andy mccabe over the phone just before the fbi interview that mccabe probably knew what he said in the conversation with kislyak, so it's unclear why flynn would then proceed to make false statements in his fbi interview if he thought they knew the truth and what he actually said. >> yeah. very bizarre. so much bizarre about this lie from flynn. and familipamela, stunning deta about the interactions involved, including an appearance by president trump. >> that's right. the filings provide colorful details, jake, from the day flynn was interviewed by the fbi in his office. the white house didn't seem to take notice that the fbi was there to interview him, and at one point even walked by president trump together as he was discussing art placement and the white house. but flynn chose to not introduce the agents to him or anyone else. so no one in the white house seemed to take notice this was happening. now, the interviewing agents' impression of flynn in these documents is he was relaxed and jocula
what stuck out to me, jake, is that the documents also say flynn told then deputy director andy mccabe over the phone just before the fbi interview that mccabe probably knew what he said in the conversation with kislyak, so it's unclear why flynn would then proceed to make false statements in his fbi interview if he thought they knew the truth and what he actually said. >> yeah. very bizarre. so much bizarre about this lie from flynn. and familipamela, stunning deta about the interactions...
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more lies from andy mccabe. >> it wasn't a lie from andy mccabe. >> bill: a 302 is a reed-out of theeeting you have and you write out the report and kept on file as an official record. that happened seven months after the meeting. >> sandra: a couple ways the story is progressing. this is where they stand on the progress of the mueller investigation. he says our strategy is to do everything we can to try to convince mueller to wrap the damn thing up. if he has anything, show us. if he doesn't have anything, you know, write your report, tell us what you have and we'll deal with it because trey gowdy talking about the redactions that have come out in the legal memos and how much room they have left for speculation. watch. >> it is stunning that people are reading under black redacted lines hoping that there is something that imply indicates the president of the united states. so they've lost interest in what russia did. that's what he was asked to do. then the throwaway line was if there is criminality, we want to know about that, too. i'm really interested in what russia did in 2016.
more lies from andy mccabe. >> it wasn't a lie from andy mccabe. >> bill: a 302 is a reed-out of theeeting you have and you write out the report and kept on file as an official record. that happened seven months after the meeting. >> sandra: a couple ways the story is progressing. this is where they stand on the progress of the mueller investigation. he says our strategy is to do everything we can to try to convince mueller to wrap the damn thing up. if he has anything, show...
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according to the sentencing request, then deputy director andrew mccabe pressured advisor flynn not to have a lawyer present during a seemingly relaxed, casual meeting with the fbi. the one that he they said he lied out except nobody believes he lied. he sat down with no attorneys present and was charged with lying to her in that very meeting. keep in mind andrew mccabe was fired from the fbi for him lying to the bureau and he's currently facing no charges. according to foxnews.com, the filing seemingly demonstrates that the fbi took a significantly more aggressive tack in handling the flynn interview than it did during other similar matters. for example, "no one interviewed during the fbi's clinton email investigation was hit with a false statement charges. although investigators believed those witnesses were untruthful. big difference. as we now know that's called the two-tier justice system. and this might be the worst part of flynn's political persecution, the agents interviewing flynn, they never thought he lied. that is such a miscarriage of justice and an abuse of power corrupti
according to the sentencing request, then deputy director andrew mccabe pressured advisor flynn not to have a lawyer present during a seemingly relaxed, casual meeting with the fbi. the one that he they said he lied out except nobody believes he lied. he sat down with no attorneys present and was charged with lying to her in that very meeting. keep in mind andrew mccabe was fired from the fbi for him lying to the bureau and he's currently facing no charges. according to foxnews.com, the filing...
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bush administration or obama administration. >> last year comey and mccabe told investigators the fbi reported no signs of deception from the flynn interview. despite the guilty plea the president's comment about flynn told fox he believed his former aide was pressured. >> convinced he did lie and made a deal and now they are recommending no time because they are embarrassed they got caught. >> reporter: josh sullivan is the track record of prosecutorial misconduct, the legal team is on a tight timeline. sentencing is scheduled for tuesday. shannon: the white house responding to claims the committee that put the committee under investigation that donations were made and how the money was spent. trace gallagher on scene. >> it is not a coincidence the us attorney's office is investigating the trump inaugural committee, the same attorneys who prosecuted michael cohen. it appears information from raids in april prompted this. the wall street journal says during a recorded conversation between cohen and stephanie winston, former advisor the first lady expressed concern about how inaugurat
bush administration or obama administration. >> last year comey and mccabe told investigators the fbi reported no signs of deception from the flynn interview. despite the guilty plea the president's comment about flynn told fox he believed his former aide was pressured. >> convinced he did lie and made a deal and now they are recommending no time because they are embarrassed they got caught. >> reporter: josh sullivan is the track record of prosecutorial misconduct, the legal...
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i believe, sharyl, the insurance policy was between schrock and page who made a deal with andy mccabe who at the time was acting director of the fbi because jim comey had been removed on may 9. the same day i should note he was interviewed by horowitz, the ig, and has now been referred for criminal referral for lying under oath on three separate occasions but that insurance policy was to make sure donald trump was never elected president, and if he was elected president, to then go at it with the series of events which took place which was jim comey taking a salacious unverified document and provided it in a restricted meeting that's just between jim comey and the president-elect of the united states. he put that dossier in place and then he turned red and leak that information with the hopes of basically overturning i believe, overturning the outcome of the u.s. election so that donald trump never served a day as president. i know that sounds like tinfoil hat stuff but what i mean is jim comey should've never presented an unverified document to the president-elect of the united state
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i think he produced a credible report on mccabe and i think we will see mccabe in and i did for lying and for trying to frame others for his lies and his leaks and ifry you read both of the -- inspector general reports i've got to think that he is looking very hard at the fisa abuse. he's he's been behind the scenes working. we haven'tea heard anything abot it. he is not leaking but i'd be very surprised if he didn't find some fisa abuse their and just told her talking about the dossier forming the basis for fisa opposition research improper, inappropriate. trish: i don't care what side of the aisle you're on the idea that somehow a judge is presented with this dossier and nobody bothered to tell the judge that it was funded by hillary went in and her team, i mean that is not the america we know and love or want to live in , right misty? >> you've got at risk am absolutely. trish: resave these good to see you and chris as well. always a pleasure. the breaking news at broughtwe o last night was the blowers revealing hundreds of pages of evidence that proves the clinton foundation misus
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keep in mind, andrew mccabe was fired from the fbi for him applying to the bureau, and he is currentlyacing no charges. according toto foxnews.com, flynn's filing also demonstrates that the fbi took as significantly more aggressive tack and handling the flynn interview dented during other similar matters. for example, "no one interview during the fbi's clinton email investigation was hit with false statement charges. though investigators believed those witnesses were untruthful. big difference. so as we now know, that is called a two. justice system. by the way, this might be part of the worst part of influence political persecution, the agents interviewing flynn, they never thought he lied. that is such a miscarriage of justice and an abuse of power corruption scandal. one of the biggest in american history, as we have been telling you. of course, you are not likely to hear about this than any other media, especially over at conspiracy tv msnbc. especially not on the liberal morning joe show, were the hosts literally spent hours every single day trying to outdo themselves, trading ins
keep in mind, andrew mccabe was fired from the fbi for him applying to the bureau, and he is currentlyacing no charges. according toto foxnews.com, flynn's filing also demonstrates that the fbi took as significantly more aggressive tack and handling the flynn interview dented during other similar matters. for example, "no one interview during the fbi's clinton email investigation was hit with false statement charges. though investigators believed those witnesses were untruthful. big...
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that's andy mccabe's description.ithout it we would not have pursued the fisa warrant came from a product paid for by hillary clinton and the democratic party to try to destroy donald trump in the final months of the election. we know that the people who handle that evidence prepared and tried to rush it through the fbi to the court were two agents who on their own said they wanted to stop donald trump from becoming president. we know the person who created the dossier doesn't stand by it he says he knew it was uncorroborated intelligence when he submitted it and he himself despise donald trump and despite all that, and now the nsa or some other intelligence community agency having concerns about the dossier and the fbi knowing the journalists they were going to use corroborating all of that, all of that now is not disputed and we think this is a good product. i think that's the question we need to have answered. why did this move forward with all of these flaws? >> sean: these just aren't flaws they knew it was fraud
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. >> laura: wasn't mccabe's lawyer, her lead counsel? i believe am i getting that right?ll one tangled web. ford wasn't the only one to bring unsubstantiated claims. we also learned tonight that no official process has begun with those criminal referrals initiated on kavanaugh accuser julie swetnick or her attorney michael avenatti. all chuck grassley did was send referrals to investigate them for allegedly making false statements to the judiciary committee but nothing has been done. helgi how much is there to investigate? >> there's nothing to investigate. julie swetnick has pretty much admitted that this was all made up. the supposed corroborating witness that she had, avenatti submitted her declaration, she came forward to not a conservative media outlet and the said he twisted her words, made it up, it's pretty much a clean-cut case that this was fabricated. >> it doesn't mean it's fabricated. >> laura: put up the graphic. these are julie swetnick's problems she has. october 1st, 2018, she told the account, the account deviated from her affidavit. and then of course h
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while i am bleeds we were able to expose mccabe and peter strzok and lisa page.en referred for criminal prosecution. lou: i forgot, there have been lettered written. he has been referred. not one of them have suffered the consequences of their actions? >> look who the attorney general was. he was unable to exercise any jurisdiction over the deep state actors who had him under their spell. lou: the spell is broken, i believe. and you will hear the gavel come down and in holding that gavel none other than nancy pelosi. what do the republicans do now about the deep state and the radical dems who have run the justice department and the fbi for all these years and have gone the away with what looks like the greatest political corruption in this country's political history. >> i do disagree with the democrats. but i don't impair their talent. there are democrats on the judiciary committee who will be more aggressive and wield the power of the committee better than we did. and we'll run back to our constituents and say they can't stop them. and they will ask why we coul
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. >> mccabe decided to open up an obstruction of justice -- >> this is a risky move for trump on the front lines of diplomacy. >> she has been a supporter for long time. >> she is clearly not qualified. the most important qualification is you show up on trump's tv screen. >> with the trade issue, i think it's misplaced. >> i am taking president xi at his word but they have to deliver on this. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> good morning and welcome to your "new day." alisyn is off. erica hill joins me. today is a major day in the mueller investigation. you know what? the president seems to know it. check out his twitter feed if you have time because he is on a rampage right now. four tweets over the last 25 minutes, all about the mueller investigation going after mueller personally, going after people involved in the investigation, and going after rod rosenstein. why is he doing this? well, in just a matter of hours we will know more, potentially much more about where the investigations, plural, stand. two sentencing memos will detail the exte
. >> mccabe decided to open up an obstruction of justice -- >> this is a risky move for trump on the front lines of diplomacy. >> she has been a supporter for long time. >> she is clearly not qualified. the most important qualification is you show up on trump's tv screen. >> with the trade issue, i think it's misplaced. >> i am taking president xi at his word but they have to deliver on this. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn...
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for instance andrew mccabe who arranged the interview that ultimately got him fired. he was fired himself. peter strzok, the agency who did the interview fired for anti-trump tweets. brian: by the way andy mccabe and fbi director comey, they disagree on some very important events. their problem is within the fbi. i don't know why they didn't make a big deal about it i don't think there is anything laudable about making a big deal about people interviewing you having another agenda like hating the president you work for. today judge emit sullivan has ordered the fbi to produce documents and have them unsealed for the 302s to examine whether michael flynn was given a heads up on the gravity of the interview that he was undergoing and what was, indeed, at stake. what was indeed at stake, it turns out was maybe his freedom. he got 0 to 6 months. the stake would be financial ruin, reputation destroyed, and a year on the sidelines, unable to get a job and wondering where your -- how your family is going to survive. ainsley: 302s have been released heavily redacted that's th
for instance andrew mccabe who arranged the interview that ultimately got him fired. he was fired himself. peter strzok, the agency who did the interview fired for anti-trump tweets. brian: by the way andy mccabe and fbi director comey, they disagree on some very important events. their problem is within the fbi. i don't know why they didn't make a big deal about it i don't think there is anything laudable about making a big deal about people interviewing you having another agenda like hating...
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mccabe is the one that convinced him not to have an attorney. these are all familiar names we have been talking about in the russia interference investigation. kennedy: i think they should have all known better. flynn should have known better and certainly mccabe and peter strzok had a professional responsibility to let him know what the stakes of the interview were. and that michael flynn might've been the subject or target of an investigation and this was not merely a couple of fellas sharing intel. >> agreed. they should have done this. they should have gone through mcgann. potentially they should have given him his miranda rights. kennedy: but that's -- and i tend to agree with some of the other legal experts to say that this is not necessarily entrapment. but, if what follows from this interview is a series of criminal charges, then certainly, it should have been a much more forthright process. it -- if nothing else.>> it is possibly unethical but there was a remedy that michael flynn had. he could have filed a motion to suppress if he was
mccabe is the one that convinced him not to have an attorney. these are all familiar names we have been talking about in the russia interference investigation. kennedy: i think they should have all known better. flynn should have known better and certainly mccabe and peter strzok had a professional responsibility to let him know what the stakes of the interview were. and that michael flynn might've been the subject or target of an investigation and this was not merely a couple of fellas sharing...