. >> retired four star army general mccaffrey, thank you. let's bring in the panel. from the host of hell and high water podcast, john heilemann. the former chairman of the republican national committee. i sure would like to take that off of his resume right now, and political analyst, michael steele. and host of andrea mitchell reports, andrea mitchell. and also from bbc, katty kay. john heilemann, what happened? >> all hell broke loose and you're doing a good job of talking about it. i think the broad outlines of what happened are obviously clear at this point. you know, we had in some ways, you know so much of the trump administration have been shocking but not surprised. it was, you know, stunning on some level, but obviously when it's all opened up in the clear

our next guest, general barry mccaffrey wrote this. and it caught our eye. "given the security threat to the inauguration, the ceremony should be moved to a more protected location like the capitol dome. not a signal of weakness. i've seen a lot of combat. i'm still alive because i react immediately to signs of danger." back with us again tonight, two of our very, very best. the aforementioned general barry mccaffrey, decorated combat veteran of vietnam. former battlefield commander in the persian gulf. former cabinet member. and our military analyst for good reason. also with us, the celebrated author, nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss, whose latest work is "presidents of war." gentlemen, welcome and good evening. general, i would like to begin with you. so we saw the yahoos make it with ease inside the wire. yes, some of them had horns, but others had zip tie handcuffs. given that, what are your concerns about security for inauguration day? and talk more about what you're suggesting. >> well, look, i think frank figliuzzi made the point tha

representative adam kinzinger calling it an attempted coup gener general mccaffrey, thank you without further, your observations on this sad day >> well, something i never would have assumed would happen in america. this is apparently an attempted otto coup by the defeated president of the united states, trump, that he has called in his supporters who are now in criminal possession of the capitol building of the congress of the united states therefore, they have been -- we should not ignore -- prevented from carrying out their constitutional duty. at face value, i mean, you don't need to go to constitutional lawyers to understand, obviously, the vice president of the united states can't unilaterally choose the next president. so, it was nonsense from the start, but it shows the power of trump's message to these people who are now clearly in violation of the law a second observation it is shameful the lack of security of the capitol building you know, i remember the great riots -- i was a young officer at walter reed army hospital - >> excuse me, general, forgive me for the interruptio

army four-star general barry mccaffrey. thank you for joining us. rachel, over to you. >> general mccaffrey there in potent terms saying what happened today is cause for the president to be removed from office. i should tell you a republican governor of vermont phil scott called for president trump to resign. president trump should resign or be removed from office by the cabinet or congress. to the point we spoke with congressman ruben he was making a forceful case the congress needs to get back to the business at hand which these protrump rioters have succeeded in delaying now for more than hour fours. the business of transferring power to the next president of the united states by certifying the results of the election, nancy pelosi just released a dear colleague letter. i'll read it the you in full. it tells you how the congress is going to approach this. dear colleague, today a shameful assault was made on our democracy. it was anoinlted at the highest level of government but cannot however detour us to validate the election of joe biden to that

something is very wrong. >> retired four star army general mccaffrey, thank you.hell and high water podcast, john heilemann. the former chairman of the republican national committee. i sure would like to take that off of his resume right now, and political analyst, michael steele. and host of andrea mitchell reports, andrea mitchell. and also from bbc, katty kay. john heilemann, what happened? >> all hell broke loose and you're doing a good job of talking about it. i think the broad outlines of what happened are obviously clear at this point. you know, we had in some ways, you know so much of the trump administration have been shocking but not surprised. it was, you know, stunning on some level, but obviously when it's all opened up in the clear light of the day, this is the most inevitable story. a president of the united states who spent directly spent several weeks and more indirectly spent months upon months working for this moment of inciting directly and told them to come to washington, d.c., to participate in his attempted coup. and they did. and the most s

joining us, retired barry mccaffrey. now lucky for us, nbc military analyst.ing the right things but this feels like a very, very, very difficult thing. how do you go about rooting it out inside the military? >> i couldn't agree more that lloyd austin is uniquely qualified, not only to be secretary of defense but address problems like this. either white supremacists or extremists in the rank. there's not a nook or cranny of the armed forces he doesn't understand and know where they are. there's a couple million people in the active guard reserve. the active guard reserve, we have great control over. we won't bring them into the armed forces unless they're in the top 25 percent of the country's young men, top 15% of young women. no felony arrest, no kkk association, no nazi ties and if we find them and their behavior is racist, hate speech, illegal, we'll discharge them from the armed forces. the actual capitol, as far as i can tell, there's only two possibly active duty people involved in it and i think they'll take severe action against them. when it comes to

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if barry mccaffrey is still with us, i apologize for the interruption i had to get to eamon javers you were saying, general mccaffrey, it was incomprehensible that they were not prepared muriel bowser requested the national guard now it's reporting by cnbc the request has been made for the national guard to come in and clear the halls, which would be an astounding thing to see there's been so much concern based -- expressed by 10 former national security chairmen, 10 living national security chairmen that the president might, in some way, invoke the military against the people. that was from their statement. that now it would be required that the national guard would have to clear the people from the people's halls is extraordinary. >> yeah. well, look, the district of columbia has a very unusual legal status when it comes to both the national guard and federal police federal government, obviously, has, at the end of the day, summary authority over the districtbiacolumbia. the white house, the capitol and other federal buildings are carve-out zones where essentially it's not d.c. polic

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. >> tom, i had michael beschloss, general barry mccaffrey on during one segment last night, the consensusthose two gentlemen was move the inauguration indoors, what are you waiting for? do you agree? >> well, i'm not going to contradict the secret service or the fbi, and i would leave it to them to be their call. as an american, i bristle at that instinctively because we shouldn't have to move one of the most important rituals of our democracy indoors because of our own citizens. if we get to that point, if we get to the point where we can't even observe the basic constitutional rituals of american democracy because we have turned into a society of armed insurrectionists, then we're in a lot -- we're in a lot more trouble than we ever thought we could be by 2021. with that said, i am not on the inside of that process, and if it were -- if i were advising anybody, i would say the secret service and the fbi are the experts. if they tell you to move it inside. but i think that would be an immense tragedy. >> tom, thought of you today because there's reporting in politico about radicalization

army four-star general barry mccaffrey, former member of the clinton cabinet, obviously a former combatant commander in the persian gulf and started his military career as a young man getting shipped off to vietnam after west point. general, one more time, a big picture assessment from where you are in washington state, watching this horrified like the rest of us, all day long on live television. >> well, obviously, it's really shocking. i mean, again, i'll say, age 17, i got sworn an oath to defend the constitution of the united states and never in my lifetime of service, four combat tours, have i seen anything like this. we have a president of the united states who incited a mob to shut down the premier branch of the u.s. government, the congre congre congress, while they were trying to carry out their duty to decide the election of the next president, not to decide, to supervise the counting of the votes. simply unbelievable. this is a criminal regime we're seeing in the trump white house. they're dangerous people. they have a couple of weeks left in office. the congress must step up, o

our next guest, general barre mccaffrey wrote this.en the security threat to the inauguration, the ceremony should be movedakss. i've seen a lot of combat. i'll still alive because i react immediately to signs of danger. back with us again tonight, two of our very, very best. the aforementioned barry mccaffrey, decorated come bat veteran of vietnam. former battlefield director in the pefl, and our military analyst for good reason. also with us, the celebrated author, nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss whose latest work is presidents of war. gentlemen, welcome and good evening. general, i would like to begin with you. we saw the yahoos make it inside the wire. some had horns but others had zip tie hand cuffs. given that, what are your concerns about security for inauguration day? and talk more about what you're suggesting. >> well, look, i think frank made the point that we're capable of securing the inauguration from any threat of any magnitude. you put 15,000 national guard, they'll bring in federal law enforcement, the