sonya's birth father, john mccall, is a convicted criminal.uilty to transporting firearms, a felony. and was sentenced to 15 years in federal prison. under tennessee law, his rights were automatically terminated because state law does not allow anyone incarcerated for more than ten years to have rights to a child under 8 years old. but before his daughter's adoption was finalized, he cut a deal and got his sentence reduced to 7 1/2 years. that deal and lesser sentence allowed him to assert his parental rights and fight to reverse the adoption that was later finalized. >> she's never laid eyes on this man. he's a total stranger. >> reporter: that total stranger managed to convince the court to reconsider. in november, 2009, one year and 12 days after she'd been legally ado adopted, sonya's adoption was reversed. but she continued to live with the hodgens while both sides fought for custody. nearly five years later, a juvenile court judge ruled sonya should be returned to her biological father. >> sonya's crying her eyes out, just screaming bloo

sonya's birth father john mccall is a convicted criminal.nsporting firearms and felon an sentenced to prison in 10 years. under tennessee law his rights were terminated because state law doesn't allow anyone incarcerated for more than ten years to have rights to a child under 8 years old. but before his daughter's adoption was finalized, he cut a deal and got his sentence reduced to 7 1/2 years. that deal and lesser sentence allows him to assert his parental rights and fight to reverse the adoption that was later finalized. >> she has never laid eyes on this man. he's a total stranger. >> reporter: that total stranger managed to convince the court to reconsider. in november 2009, one year and 12 days after she had been illegal adopted, sonya's adoption was reversed but she continued to live with the hodges while both sides fought for custody. nearly five years later a juvenile judge court ruled that sonya should be returned to her father. >> sonya is crying her eyes out screaming bloody murder p please, mommy and daddy, don't let them take m

sonya's birth father, john mccall, is a convicted criminal. he pled guilty to transporting firearms, a felony, and was sentenced to 15 years in prison. under tennessee law his rights were automatically terminated because state law doesn't allow anyone incarcerated for more than ten years to have rights to a child under 8 years old. but before his daughter's adoption was finalized he cut a deal and got his sentence reduced to seven and a half years. that deal and lesser sentence allowed him to assert his parental rights and fight to reverse the adoption that was later finalized. >> she has never laid eyes on this man. he is a total stranger. >> reporter: that total stranger managed to convince the court to reconsider. in november, 2009, one year and 12 days after she had been legally adopted sonya's adoption was reversed. but she continued to live with the hodgens while both sides fought for custody. nearly five years later a juvenile court judge ruled sonya should be returned to her biological father. >> and sonya is crying her eyes out, just

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and yet on the opposite side in the house, we have mike mccall from homeland security which will helpully going forward. >> this is really important because it was a subcommittee hearing. the homeland security committee. the chairman of the full committee doesn't generally attend these subcommittee hearings. mike mccall made a point of coming to this one both to make a personal statement about the fact that he thinks this is important. then he actually made a statement to the effect that he thinks this could make all of the other kinds of problems that we're worrying about pale by comparison. as you understand and have done so much to help illuminate, this is a nation-threatening danger. i think he was there in part and he was attesting to the importance of this legislation that would make the electromagnetic pulse threats a -- specifically emp, a planning scenario for the department of homeland security. imagine, it isn't today. he's behind getting it out of committee. and i think pete sessions has cosponsored. he will, i think, make sure it gets to and through the floor. then maybe

and their view on mccall? >> he has fought for his daughter. doesn't have a perfect record.erything the state of tennessee has asked. >> reporter: two families engaged in a bitter battle. fueled by their love of a little girl. for "today," sarah dullop, nbc news. >>> dylan has a final check of the weather this morning. hey, dylan. >> hey, lester. yeah, i do. it's drying out, even across new england. we'll see some improvements, despite heavier rain this morning. as we go through the afternoon, though, a couple of more showers will start to move into tennessee and the southeast. most of the country, we're not going to see any severe weather, even tomorrow, too. just run-of-the mill showers and storms. temperatures chilly in the great lakes this weekend. in the northeast we'll warm back into the 70s and it won't be as hot in places like l.a. instead of up >>> and we're seeing mostly 50s outside except few upper 40s around the north bay and game time coming up at 6:05 for the giants should be in the low 60s dropping to the upper 50s as the game goes on. waking up to these patch

. >> the mccall a pretty fair a recovery in the temperature around that area.for that. >> have more music from derek >> have more music from derek hutchinson. in the criminal justice system the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police, who investigate crime and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. these are their stories. if she ever asks, we finished early and watched the game till almost midnight. i hate football. you like it now. you beat the spread, took a double sausky from me and bought a couple of rounds. who played? bears, vikings-- 24-21. sherri's a good woman. why do you want to hurt her? remember your lines, nobody gets hurt. when i get hitched... you got to have a date first, bozo. uh, spiegelman, 6a. who won, anyway? she must be out.

the bureau of mccall tobacco and firearms says they're headed for a license could do it. >> accused of exposing him to minors. church with misdemeanor public indecency and disorderly conduct. they saw him exposing himself to the open window of her hotel on may 3rd. the director of merrill surgical intensive care for a university of chicago medicine. >> the bill's sponsor says he did nothing to stop the illegal activities. >> to an illinois house gets the bill next. a police officer who was caught on video lifting his patrol dog by a caller is back on the job now. >> the incident was investigated and there was no obvious. >> he will undergo more training of the jump. >> in an active as a working with chicago police department to place mentors and role models on hundreds of the most dangerous box. >> leeson's actions not words. can build on the roof of an abandoned motel until he raised enough money to tear it down. >> we think it is going to help us build relationships. allowance some mentoring opportunities that we have not had. ultimately our goal is to drive the violence down. this w

gerry adams the stratum the rest of wednesday in connection with the abduction and murder of jean mccall the bull by the ira in nineteen seventy two. he can be held onto it until this evening. p s allies are seeking the permission of the courts to extend the period of detention. the north's deputy first minister mark mcinnes of champagne said the move confirms that gerry adams arrest was politically motivated. gina carnivals held the store was now says that she's prepared to name the people involved in her mother's abduction to look stupid if the stocks in the past waging the convo was abducted forty two years ago the new rule makers was busy this afternoon. peacemaker neither nation during his debut with gerry adams the central figure in this extraordinary situation the suggestion that mr adams is keen on thursday targeted by a section of the police with the template like martin mcguinness this afternoon fuller confirmation of my belief that there's a couple so the psni people you've been just great. to me. i'd very senior officer may mean very senior officers within the psni has a dark

also, in trysting hiring for them, carolyn mccall, head of easyjet. they want to employ her knowledge of global brands, travel, and consumers. she used to be head of guardian media as well. they lose one prominent female and gain another. their brand doing online? >> this is fascinating. this company is going against the grain. the likes of giorgio armani and other key companies in the getry space, they tend to proctor and gamble, l'oreal, brands that are better at making makeup to do it for them. they are going to do it themselves. they will hire 100 executives to spearhead this across the board in really interesting ways. not only are they creating their own dedicated boutique, it is called the burberry beauty box. >> i actually went in yesterday. nail polish. >> i was too embarrassed to ask. instead of cash registers, there were people walking out just like in the apple store, where you can actually check out -- >> it is all on your ipad. it is all about digital. you can go into the shop and do it. alibaba inzon, china. this is fascinating. instead

listen rushes for maths mccall in line from london thank you for your judge the looks that much appreciatedas ever the present total surprise the release of people's government the mets. i will go but up. he was arrested said nothing gained popularity among those seeking autonomy in the region over his family says that they've been receiving multiple threats before his detention. rolf of money if the giving of political activity that is set to release monday considerable step forward adding though that others should also watch for a leader of separatism in other cities of damask along with the many antique and activists were also jailed and they remain behind boston die. proton of the protests is a nice ukrainians use the eastern ukrainian city of the nets were told it is now the hub of the resistance the interim government say they'll consider postponing the referendum decision could be taken on this day the city's also reading for a minute re offensive to as kiev set wage an operation to regain control of the cities in the east. and even some local women adjoining self defense forces now

and then we'll speak with arolyn mccall.wilson will be joining us a little bit later on in programming. let's get back to our top story. pfizer is set to sweeten its bid for astrazeneca. our international correspondent hans nichols has details from westminster. hans? >> anna, good morning. here is what we know about a potential sweetened deal from pfizer. it would be a slight increase on the 50 pounds per share. it is already out there. it would likely come after everyone sees how today's parliamentary discussion takes place. one thing we'll be looking at when this panel starts at 9:30 is how friendly or hostile inquiz or thes will be on to the two labor members who are going to be speaking. the question is will he have any allies out there or be entirely hostile. this committee is chaired by adrian bailey. he is a labor member. labor will be much more hostile in general to any argument he will be putting forward. the question is is pfizer doing this for tax reason or do they like to product line from astrazeneca. 27% is wha

of course i never wore it has been tough tucked away mccalls that until now it's been so hot as for youi'm going to wear this today and sure up and the only on-camera talent on the world wearing his hat i appear happy but is going to help issyk-kul. >> : amid a friend this is ratter five months old people poppy to piquancy is painting oyster and sickle on the top i i i hope you are enjoying this weather stickle. an unplanned and i shall clef recreation area where people having a good time in the water kids are all here believe sandcastles and they're off work at its offer because it is way too nice out here must not to be working right now. he is see all the hot weather south pictures on our website at kron 4 bit kron4-dot-com the + the pictures as well. >> : pitino fall short doesn't come under new fire today for tearing into one of the most admired figures on professional sports. >> : his man whose upset he's reaching. >> : magic johnson sticking highroad after sterling describes him as on fit role model for children. airline having just as he have >> : to be he do any business theory

that was carolyn mccall's big focus.refore, the business travelers managed to offset a late easter and the better weather meant there were less disruptions. >> what about drones? >> this is a fascinating one. easyjet is focused on cost-cutting. amazing that they are going to be investing in drones. drones are going to be circling the planes to spot any sort of damage. say your flight gets hit by a lightning strike. usually you have to land the plane and take an evening out to assess whether the flight could take off the next day. well, you could have a drone inspect the plane that much faster along with 3-d glasses they will be using. less, this means cost-cutting, which will be better. also get this, scrapping paper manuals is likely to save easyjet half a million pounds per year. if you cut a kilo out of a plane, that saves $20,000 per plane. scale it up with the amount of planes that they have. effective as to how much weight and luggage you are carrying as well. caroline, see you later. after the break, we will leave

scientists try to figure out what caused a what i don't feel i could go to diane hunt of mccall's onon is trying to decide whether they will remove the well or if they would come in for is to try and determine how she died >>: wrote the bay area residents into the beach this memorial day weekend breathe a sigh of relief as an environmental group led his report comes out showing that 92 percent of bay area beaches on the ocean slice about standing upon their positions and the state's severe drought is a major factor in the improved water quality is that right bridge is strict and a with coming up on a kron4 morning of police and morgan hill are searching for a man who robbed a woman at gunpoint will see where it happened dog: what, what? mattress discounters what, what? mattress discounters memorial day sale ends monday? but mattress discounters has the largest selection of memory foam mattresses under one "roof." comforpedic, icomfort, optimum, and wow, four years interest-free financing on the entire tempur-pedic cloud collection, even a queen size sealy gel memory foam mattress for

but city housing inspector derek mccall is helping to stop urban dec decay. he is enforce a citywide ordinance that fines building owners $300 every day for each and every boarded up or otherwise neglected window and door. at this home, that's a daily fine of $3,900. >> it makes you feel good when you come to a property such as this one and you see it this way. then you come back to it maybe six months from now and it's fixed. >> reporter: city fa tis ticks show the windows and doors ordinance as part of a program to combat housing blight, since 2009, thousands of building owners have been cited, 2,000 have complied and about 500 went to court. >> the doors and windows are kind of the first step to a property being abandoned. if that abandonment continues, the property will deteriorate structurally over time. >> reporter: noib naibs who live near property say neglected homes are more than an eyesore. >> i wouldn't want to live next to that. it's overgrown. rat infested. it's a danger for kids and. not a good place. >> reporter: after citing neglected building

but before sonya's adoption was finalized, mccall's sentence was reduced to 7 1/2 years, allowing himre the night -- >> reporter: sonya's uncle recalls that day back in january when the child was taken from her adoptive parents. >> they ripped her out of their arms, with them down on their nears begging them to not do this. >> reporter: the next day, the hatchen family received his heartbreaking phone call. >> tell me, how bad is that house? >> dirt everywhere. >> reporter: words of support fill the facebook page dedicated to bringing sonya home. david and kim join us now. i know this is a very difficult time for both of you. what has made it so difficult emotionally for you as this process is carrying out, kim? >> it's very -- very hard on our fami family. life is -- just -- is terrible. i guess i can't -- i can't even focus. i can't imagine what sonya is going through. her mental state. i just can't. >> david, tell me about sonya. so far we only know about the case. we don't know much about her. who is she? >> sonya is a -- an extremely smart little girl, very outgoing. very energet

matt mccall is president of penn financial group, and this is interesting, matt, because basically thele of this article, maybe there's life in the old bull market yet. we've had record after record, the s&p 500 seems on track for another record today. is this a real rally? can we really buy in here, or is it almost over? >> it is a real rally. i was getting my makeup done in the green room -- jenna: how many times do you get to see that? >> bill hemmer and said, matt, should i be buying into the stock market? jenna: whald you tell him? >> yes. >> when people start telling you how good they're doing, that's when it's time to get out. jenna: here's the question, is it an irrational level at this point? when we look at stocks this relation to what's happening with the economy, does it make sense that the stock market's where it's at? >> most investors think, well, i'm going to read the headlines and see what the economy's doing. there's a major disconnect between the headlines and the stock market. an old, wise wall street guy told me you could every day open a paper and have ten reasons

mccall scored twice in st. paul. zack perressi got a goal. it ends a 6-game winning streak. the lead is 2-1. the montreal canadians took a lead over the boston bruins. pei quay got a goal and assist. the canadians won game 3, 4-2. >>> brazilian sports minister defended world cup host city saying it's not a war zone like iraq or afghanistan. it will host four matches, starting with england versus italy, located in the middle of the rin forest. there are fears over heat and crime. >>. >> translation: i don't think brazil or this place will bring risks to people than risks faced in the iraqi provinces in the wars they were in recently. a newspaper wrote that there are risks of snake attacks in the streets of manask. i asked the staff the statistics of how many die from bites of snakes and dogs. they are not as worrying as the british tabloid shows. >>> manchester united may have had a far from perfect season, but teenage striker wilson scored twice on debut. wils wilson was not born when ryan giggs won his first two titles. giggs came on, likely to be his last purposes as a uni

here is what senator mccall said on meet the press nine days after that sent up. he mentions the senate vote and said that, if you are going to require disclosure, it needs to be meaningful disclosure. 527 is just a handful of groups. we need to have real disclosure. broaden disclosure to include at least a labor unions the major political players in america. why would all little disclosure be better than the a la the disclosure? indeed, why would of the disclosure be better than all of our displeasure? i agree with what senator mcconnell said. the american people agree, and that is what the disclose act does. it calls were disclosure not just by five 2/7 but by the other groups, senator mcconnell said should be included. now a consensus statement senator mcconnell as totally flip-flop on disclosure. he has gone from saying we need more disclosure to arguing that more disclosure is some left-wing conspiracy to end free speech. he led the filibuster that blocked the vote on the senate version of the disclosure act in 2010. fifty-nine senators voted to proceed with

ben mccall the voices in the room stopped i felt like i was on a different planet but in my mind i realizedi had created by a disease. it sparked a little anger but at that point i just had to resolve it. gerri: you had to go through all kinds of treatment, their fees -- therapies. >> the cancer itself was miserable and the symptoms were miserable but the chemotherapy is very toxic and old world war two mustard gas kind of compound was disabling. gerri: but you got rid of it now you decide i have to take care of myself because ims. the cure is almost as bad as the disease itself. >> going through the process to get rid of the cancer are realized how frustrating it must be for people going through it with no experience how to resolve these things which is one of the reasons i wrote the book gerri: this is you two days after the operation. year is two months. look at that. just a little bit more fit. five years. check it out. that is what your book is about. not just the exercise but what you should eat and anybody could use it. >> i designed the protocol to make it reader friendly and easy t

carolyn mccall looking to see -- >> she says they are only scratching the surface at the moment.hey are making very stealthy progress. >> we have harriet green a little bit later, another female chief executive. she is also a fervent believer in technological development as well. later in the hour, we will be speaking to the ceo of travel giant. >> now let's get some company news. here is what is happening today. >> at&t is said to be in talks to buy directv for about $50 billion. the deal would give at&t access to the largest u.s. satellite tv provider to combine with its wireless phone and internet services. those familiar with negotiations say the deal is more than a week from being completed. >> considering matching or exceeding telefonica's offer. dts, the broadcaster owned by silvio berlusconi, already has a large stake. is worth 700 25 million euros. >> and citizens financial has filed for a $100 million ipo in new york. the proceeds would go to rbs. the eventual size of the share sale may change. >> stay with us on "the pulse." ♪ >> it is time for a look at today's hotsho

congressman mike mccall has called for a further investigation into whether others were involved. suspects have been identified. brian ross, abc news, new york. >>> actor michael jace has been formally charged with killing his wife. the star that played a police officer in the fx series "the shield." appeared in a los angeles courtroom yesterday. bail set at $2 million. jace called 911 and said he shot his wife april. the couple's children were home at the time. police are trying to determine if financial problems led to that shooting. >>> o.j. simpson's attorneys have filed an appeal to his kidnapping and armed robbery conviction. they're hoping to get a new trial, claiming his notoriety tainted the case. simpson was sentenced to 9 to 33 years for the confrontation at a vegas hotel. he claims he was trying to retrieve his stolen memorabilia and didn't know his friends were armed. last year, a judge rejected the appeal claiming his previous lawyer botched his trial. >>> 50 democratic senators have written to roger goodell urging him to change the name of the washington redskins. i

mccall," a guided missile destroyer. leading the parade here is the "u.s.s.e," incredibly exciting time for folks. the one thing i can tell you before i leave you, the big thing this weekend and this week during fleet week is a selfie with a sailor. everybody in new york, time to get your selfie with a sailor. very exciting. carol? >> i'll be expecting one in my inbox with you, miguel and some fine looking sailor. thank you, miguel. we'll get back to you. >>> still to come in the "newsroom," a group of ex-nfl players say the nfl put plofts above their health. >> the lawsuit involves some of the biggest names in the history of the nfl and the lengths they went to stay on the football field are still staggering to read about. i'll have that story coming up. . for what reality teaches you firsthand. in the face of danger, and under the most demanding circumstances. experience builds character. experience builds confidence. and experience... has built this. the 2014 glk. the engineering and the experience of mercedes-benz. see your authorized dealer for exception

along with colleagues like congressman michael mccall who's now the chairman of the homeland security committee, i did everything within my power to highlight the need for additional federal resources in puerto rico. my colleagues here can attest to this, having heard me raise this issue every time a dhs or doj official appears before this committee. i have no alternative, because the stakes are too high. starting in 2012, our message finally began to sink in, particularly at dhs. much of the credit owes to secretary napolitano who, as thosed, traveled to puerto rico and upon her return created a dhs task force charged with taking steps to reduce puerto rico's murder rate. as a result of this initiative, i searched 30 agents to -- i.c.e. surged 30 agents to puerto rico last year. between 2009 and 2013, the coast guard tripled the number of days its ships spend conducting counterdrug operations in the waters of puerto rico. the number of coast guard flight hours increased from 150 to approximately 1,000 this 2013. and -- in 2013. and cbp, having assumed of the counterdrug program earli

mike mccall of texas. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to follow up -- well, let me say last night i watched the video again of boko haram, the leader, with these 270 girls. it is horrific. and it's hard to stand back idly and watch that happen, knowing that we could do more to help them. the chairman raised the issue of the waiver process, and i guess my question to dr. sewall is if that waiver is granted, what additional assistance could be given to this situation? >> i think one of the -- one of the distinctions that i've been trying to articulate is that the waiver really is geared toward the training and material support for forces and some 50% of the nigerian military at this point in time are not eligible for that form of cooperation with the united states because of the lahi law. we have been able to be involved with the remaining 50%. in terms of the operational pieces, i should turn to my colleague, miss dory, to speak about what additionally might happen in a waiver. but at this point we are doing everything that the nig

here today and that his subcommittee is engaged in this hearing, because he, along with chairman mccall, have led efforts to enact serious cybersecurity legislation. with the support of the private sector is and privacy advocates, that bill was passed unanimously out of this committee. it's a testimony to the hard work, also to the importance of the issue and i'm privileged to have pat with us here. i look forward to the testimony, and i now recognize the ranking minority member of the subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence, the gentleman from new york, mr. higgins, for any statement he may have. >> i'd like to thank the chairman for holding this hearing, and in deference to the chairman and our guest today, i'll submit my opening statement for the record so we can get right to it. >> ranking member yoalds back. chairman mehan -- yields back. >> i thank the ranking member for yielding, and i thank the chairman for sharing the opportunity to collaborate on, as chairman king said, this very, very important issue. and i want to thank everybody for attending this important hearin

mccall fire the battalion chief after alleged murder of his mistress or will fleming was in hiding and rested just blocks away from the crime >> : can of scare that he is right here under our noses and constant find him. make out by >> : the caught up with >> : flooding didn't run for sheriff detectives named him as a suspect his girlfriend's death. >> : so no one was could an exception. >> : often comes down to draw the park just across the tracks and bushes are flooding was hiding. funding store not far away he figured police would find him there. >> : and to present to come that long to get the country and others in the area also questioned how limited officers >> : is how come there and all the gadgets that have no little disturbing that his around for so long and literally apart right there park over here and coal schools here and there. >> : and also my connie charles johnson's attorney was welsh search. >> : we look round the neck area using helicopters canines and officers >> : since that time we search that area numerous times. fleming made on the move during the day after try

what i know that you do i don't know that they frankly equate i'm going to them with a disagree with mccall i mean i. i'm not going to defend stupidity i'm not going to defend hate and i'm not going to defend murder but a lot of what you're talking about in the report is stupid hateful people committing murder right it's not organized terrorism in that there's an international network funded by oil money funded by technology money trading but there is not in these cases go to the top story on start or not check out check out the right wing parties in iraq not a third there is an active international world. i don't have a clue you want to talk about europe want turkey again it's no i mean if they're connected they're absolutely correct they're not just like bunnies not connected bundy's immediate bundy didn't pay his bills to the government bundy probably should have been taken to jail on the other hand i think it's a fair fair judgment here that the police officials overreacted severely here as they do in many cases all across the country how did. they didn't have this problem and out in th

since said to the city's police chief and promised a full investigation but legal expert alexander mccallas has doubts as to how say that will be there will not be a fair process any more than that was for example over the sniper incidents on my done square itself on balance they support the people who have done this terrible thing in a day or so because they want to suppress protests against them so what seems to be happening and of course we have to be careful because we don't have full rights is that the army does some of the choice things when civilians come along the soldiers are not prepared to shoot on civilians right sick to blue to do that. by the west however was quick to condemn moscow's alleged involvement in ukraine's crisis without providing any proof and if you minutes we take a look at new sanctions against russia unveiled by the u.s. and the this week. personel data far trusted cloud service. that insures protecting your privacy. could be a race to randomly get stolen. or become a target of the n.s.a. . what if unclouded sky is right above the clouds on our t.v. . dramas

hassoun says sec the city's police chief and promised a full investigation but legal experts alexander mccall is has doubts as to how safe that will be. do not be a fair process any more than the walls for example oh this night there are incidents on my done square itself on balance they support the people who have done this terrible thing in a day or so because they want to suppress protests against them so much what seems to be happening and of course we have to be careful because we don't have leaks is that the army does some of the choice things when civilians come along and soldiers are not required to shoot on civilians right sick to blue to do that and. so was however was quick to condemn moscow's alleged involvement in ukraine's crisis without providing any proof in a few minutes we take them again said new sanctions against russia unveiled by the u.s. and the e.u. this week. the middle east peace process this. news is proud of this tremendous chance to the peaceful dr but the best way. is what you might minister benjamin netanyahu. reduced hold to the peace process with. the us divid

to cross talk ukraine i'm joined by my guest mark mccall in london he's a specialist on international affairs at the university of london in new york we have michael hudson he's an author and an economics professor at the university of missouri kansas city and in boston we cross to daniel welsh he is a writer and political and also a gentleman cross-talk rose and i mean you can jump in anytime you want and i very much encourage it martin if i go to you first in london well the referendum passed there will no one was surprised about by about i'm no one is surprised that washington can't don't recognize them no surprise there and russia is staying on the sidelines as it has during this entire crisis here this seems to me an opportunity or we're going to step into greater tragedy we have legitimacy we have a democratic process and ukraine people do have agency they do have opinions they they are expressing their ideas they don't like the regime and care of what they what they think about russia that's still one clear here this is an opportunity right now but it's probably not going to be

it benefits all his detractors to make up or throw these insinuations out there the fact is if mr mccall has some evidence it's got to be more than speculation something like that would never be admitted in a court of law as is relevant to that determination of whether something had been handed over by mr snowden to the russian intelligence service all right well unfortunately we're running out of time here about snowden did make it clear that he would love to come back to the united states of course it's a difficult prospect but. where do you think he's going to go next and asylum is up in june next month just one i'll let you take that one i think most likely we would ask for that asylum to be extended or for him to be granted some sort of permanent residency we continue to have new goshi ations with the u.s. but there's nothing approaching something solid and it really would have to be a negotiated settlement for him to come back because he's not going to come back to face espionage charges under which he cannot he cannot make his case as everybody cries all the time just come back wh