joseph mccann denies the allegations, but he was not in court today for the proceedings.f 79. mr dobson served as health secretary in tony blair's government. he served as mp for holborn and st pancras in central london for more than a0 years before standing down in 2015. mr blair said mr dobson had made an "immense contribution" to labour's 1997 landslide election victory and was a politician of the "highest calibre". jeremy corbyn also paid tribute. he was passionate at representing his constituents and his people and he was brilliant as secretary of state for health in 1997. he brought in those action areas, he dealt with theissues in those action areas, he dealt with the issues of health, inequality and poverty, and proper funding the issues of health, inequality and poverty, and properfunding of our nhs is something we are passionate about. he was also a great raconteur, a great purveyor of stories, a great source of gossip around the house of commons and a great wit in many ways. i will a lwa ys great wit in many ways. i will always remember the good and the bad ——

we have also been hearing about howjoseph mccann was eventually caught. he then got lost, somehow, the police lost him ina lost, somehow, the police lost him in a maze of residential streets, and he took a bike, then hired a taxi, then he was stopped at a roadblock and was eventually tracked down to a field where he climbed up a tree before there was a stand—off with police. eventually he was arrested. he said nothing with police at interview, but he did tell a police officer, if you had caught me with the first two, the rest of this would never happen. the trial continues tomorrow. now it‘s time for a look at the weather with mel coles. blue skies have offered some respite from their wet weather we have seen recently, but not for all. down towards south—west england and wales, you can see quite clearly this big bank of rain bearing clouds, and it has already produced some snow over the high grounds of south wales and south—west england. it will work a little further north and west with the night progresses. elsewhere, clear skies, and west with the night

joseph mccann is accused of 37 offences.w is at the old bailey. the court has been hearing about the escape of this 17—year—old girl who, along with her mother and brother, it is alleged, was held against her will. she was raped byjoseph mccann in lancashire at the beginning of may this year. what actually happened, according to the cctv footage that was shown to the jury was that she jumped naked from the first—floor bedroom window, landing in the front garden, then clambering over a wall, and then you can see her running, limping as she does so, running away. the jury was told that she fractured her heel during the process , she fractured her heel during the process, and then they were played the 999 call she made when she raised the alarm. she is sobbing, screaming, in the 999 call, hysterical, and says at one point, he's got a knife, he held us hostage. thejury were he's got a knife, he held us hostage. the jury were also shown images of the capture ofjoseph mccann, when eventually he was cornered, there was a stand—off

we then heard details of the other allegations that mccann is facing, they include charges in the north offences include victims ranging in age from 71 to children and including a family, that is a family, mother and two children. the trial is expected to last six weeks. june kelly at the 0ld to last six weeks. june kelly at the old bailey, thank you. weather conditions are worsening in a vast area of australia's east coast — including the area around sydney — where dozens of bush fires are continuing to rage. fires are burning across the state of new south wales ahead of predicted "catastrophic" conditions. authorities warn that fires will spread quickly to endanger lives amid hot temperatures and strong winds. phil mercer reports. fires are unpredictable beasts. more than 70 are burning across new south wales. about half are out of control, in terrain that is often rugged and hard to reach. more homes have been destroyed. siren wails. 3000 firefighters have prepared for what officials said was the most dangerous bushfire week australia's most populous state has ever seen. a catastroph

thank you very much. -- denied by mr mccann.r attacks that have taken place, took place yesterday against the labour party platform. it was a very serious cyber attack. we have a system in place in our offices to protect us against these cyber attacks but there was a very attack against us. so far as we are aware, none of our information was downloaded and the attack was repulsed. the party would not say what systems were affected but insiders sent us this screengrab... labour hq maintained the attack failed and all system stayed online but clearly someone feeling entirely. the type of attack used with known as d—dos attack. they can be sophisticated but often a more basic, ready—made kits can be bought online and launched from a bedroom. labour has not yet pointed figures but a source that it has seen attacks originating from russia and brazil. we have had d—dos attacks. what happens is the hacker hijacks thousands and thousands of poorly protected computers around the world and sends them as an army, gets them to do their bidd

i am not a mccann and a microphone. i am not a mccann andl and a microphone.i am from advance, which has the third largest software company here in the uk —— i third largest software company here in the uk —— lam laura third largest software company here in the uk —— i am laura mccann. third largest software company here in the uk —— lam laura mccann. we have 30% of females on board, however as caroline bourbon said, thatis however as caroline bourbon said, that is not the case for many businesses across the country. i was wondering if you had any particular plans that you're going to bill into policy to try and rectify that diversity because, as a young person looking ahead to my career, i would like reasons to stay in this country. yes, thank you very much. we are doing a huge amount to break the glass ceiling where we can in boardrooms where the glass ceiling where we can in boa rd rooms where companies the glass ceiling where we can in boardrooms where companies now have to look at their perils and ordered the pay that they give their employees and —— thei

pro stablish macam this is about sending a message now it has to be pointed out to the pros thomas mccann dominates currently the district council at the moment so they're on the defensive they want to show that they can maintain that strength of support going forward and that there is still support for storage fees here in hong kong they want to defend their seats on the other side the pro democracy camp they want to show a certain support they know that they're not going to dominate the district council votes in the same way that the pros tabish macam has but they do want to show surge and support proof for proof that they're pro democracy cause these protests are legitimate it legitimizes them on a more practical level these voters do have a scent degree of significance as well that's because 6 district counselors will be awarded seats in the legislative council that century hong kong's parliament and a number of district councils will then be put on the body the committee that appoints the chief executive going forward so if you speak to pro-democracy candidates here they'll tell you

of the attackers house in a town 250 kilometers north of the capital the 28 year old suspect was mccann had been serving time for terrorism offenses until last year he was released early before he had served half his prison sentence he was allowed to walk free after agreeing to wear and electronic tag that's a practice that u.k. prime minister bars johnson says he wants to change we say in the manifesto that we will to toughen up sentences for serious involvement offenses and i've said for a long time that i think that the practice of automatic to the rich where you cut a sentence in hoc from it really serious that this out simply isn't working and i think you've had some very good evidence of how that is working i'm afraid this case britain is holding snap elections in less than 2 weeks but campaigning in london a suspended for the weekend so far the election campaign has focused on bragg's it and medical care in the country but in the aftermath of this attack terrorism is likely to be high on the agenda to. now to some of the other stories making news around the world and police in th

that they're not going to dominate the district council votes in the same way that the pros tabish mccann has but they do want to show surge and support proof for proof that they're pro democracy cause these protests are legitimate it legitimizes them on a more practical level these votes do have a scent degree of significance as well that's because sticks district council is will be awarded seat in. legislative council that century hong kong's parliament and a number of district councils will then be put on the body the committee that appoints the chief executive going forward so if you speak to pro-democracy candidates here they'll tell you that any gains that they may make will be a more significant step to shaping the future in hong kong the you've been covering the protests and often the violence for weeks and months now do you get a sense that there might be more of that today. with the weeks ahead of this they have been marred by some of the worst violence that we've seen over the last 6 months the days ahead of this vote they have been there's been an easy calm have been hearing o

>> well, mccann's in a position where he has a double privilege that he can assert. he can say, it's an attorney client communication so it's protected. and also, i'm one of the top advisers to the president. that may be an executive privilege situation. bolton would only have the executive privilege defense to prevent him from testifying. if the judge rules against the attorney client privilege and the executive privilege claim. bolton will have to testify, mcgann will have to testify, and a number of other people may have to testify. >> you're underscoring the significance of this rule something. >> yeah, it's huge. not just obviously for mcgang's testimony. but for bolton and his deputy as well. and they have said that they will testify if there is a favorable ruling from the district court judge. that could happen sooner rather than later. there are many appeals which will happen quickly. from the statement bolton has made, he will testify -- he's certainly been teasing that he will. and that could happen in short order. >> okay. >> thank you very much. please st

of the attack his house in a town 250 kilometers north of the capital the 28 year old suspect is mccann have been serving time for terrorism offenses until last year he was released early before he had served tough as prison sentence he was allowed to walk free after agreeing to wear an electronic tag britain is holding snap elections in less than 2 weeks but campaigning in london is suspended for the weekend u.k. prime minister boris johnson visited the site of the attack. is what we say in the manifesto that we will to toughen up sentences for serious and college offenses and i've said for a long time that i think with the practice of automatic it would be really where would you cut a sentence in hope for mitt really serious for this. simply isn't working and i think you've had some very good evidence of how that is working on for. from the main opposition party also visited the scene so far the election campaign has focused on breaks it to medical care in the country. but in the off the mouth of this attack crime and terrorism are likely to be high on the agenda too and our correspon

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he thanks for your assessment of situation that executive director of the rumpole institute daniel mccann is my guest. moving on a significant moment for democracy donald trump welcomed the resignation of bolivia's president evo morales roloson out to be stepping down on sunday after facing opposition from the military and the police the resignation yesterday of believe in president ever more rallies is a significant moment for democracy in the western hemisphere these events send a strong signal to the legitimate regimes in venezuela nicaragua the democracy and the will of the people will always prevail since for all as announced his departure violent incidents have been reported in and around the capital about. all these pictures here purportedly showing where all this is house which was found lies through reports say the vice president's home was also run sacked as were the residences of several cabinet ministers. several countries a spoken out against the resignation of moralez denouncing the event as a coup they believe in opposition claims that the police are currently seeking to de

—— mccann would nuclear power be part of the green revolution?t an area that is similar. we have the lowest paid jobs in the united kingdom. those jobs in the united kingdom. those jobs are going to go somewhere, and my party's policy is no new sites. if those jobs are going to go somewhere, i want them to go to communities that will benefit. yes to nuclear in anglesey? our policy is no new sites. if i canjust say, we have referred to labour's spent here, if! we have referred to labour's spent here, if i could reiterate, there are some sorts of expenditure that only central government can do. labour is proposing 100 billion of capital spend on these sorts of activity in scotland. that should be in labour's manifesto. 60 billion equivalent for wales. but now, labour is concentrating on scotland. the capital expenditure allocated for wales is zero. and look where the capital expenditure allocated from the tories on their manifesto, it is on the borders in the marshes where they hope to win seats. nia griffiths, the welsh government declared a clima

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joseph mccann, who's 3a, is also charged with multiple counts of kidnap and false imprisonment over ar. he denies the charges. official figures show the number of people in work fell by 58,000 in the three months to september — the biggest quarterly drop for more than four years. the office for national statistics says the reduction was partly caused by the collapse of a number of major retailers. the number of people who are unemployed also fell, by 23,000 to 1.31 million. the former head coach for british cycling and team sky, shane sutton, has walked out of a medical tribunal denying allegations that he's a "serial liar and doper". the tribunal is considering the case of the team's former doctor, dr richard freeman, who's facing charges of medical misconduct, for obtaining testosterone for an unnamed rider. he claims they were obtained at the direction of mr sutton, as our sports editor, dan roan, reports. former british cycling and team sky head coach shane sutton arriving today is the key witness in the case that's cast a shadow over the country's most successful sport. this man,

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so we had ian austin, john woodcock, tom harris is the third and michael mccann fourth. about what you think about his comments in the past? what do you make of this? if he does become prime minister then they are going to have to answer to they are going to have to answer to the electorate for the racism and economic vandalism this vulva going to recon this country. strong words. very strong words. but i think it is prettyjustified by some of the things that the labour party top brass have said in response to all of this. so going back to the times briefly, john mcdonnell accused the jewish chronicle of being behind the times, launching an appeal to non—jewish members of the public about their concerns and accusing him of being behind the times, it sounds like jeremy corbyn accusing the jews of not having a joyous sense of irony. even this party, not willing to learn from its mistakes. we must look at parallels as well because as tone deaf as some labour figures have been on the issue of anti—semitism, we've seen the same thing in the conservative party relating to isla

joseph mccann, who‘s 3a, is also charged with multiple counts of kidnap and false imprisonment over a. the office for national statistics says the reduction was partly caused by the collapse of a number of major retailers. the number of people who are unemployed also fell by 23,000 to 1.31 million. in a month‘s time, voters across the united kingdom will be voting in the general election and as the campaign progresses, bbc news is continuing its series looking at political priorities in different parts of the uk. my colleague clive myrie has spent the day in the constituency of bishop auckland in the north—east of england. what a fascinating town this is. the death of traditional industry has hit this area hard and there is a sense this town has never recovered politically, it is also a bellwether for the rest of the north—east. the constituency is a mixture of both industrial towns, pretty market towns and agricultural communities. historically, it‘s been a labour stronghold in general elections, and barring four years in the 1930s, labour has held bishop auckland since 1918 but this

up with the center off ramp because this decision of the judge was was basically saying that dawn mccann dawn again former white house counsel would have to testify before the house which then creates an interesting path for the acting chief of staff makes me but i don't course the 900 pound gorilla in this john bolton national security adviser who has a $2000000.00 book deal you know you may or may not write about that will get appealed to the supreme court they'll likely stay and kind of witness testimony until they've actually come to sessions it could be june by the time you get that decision from the supreme court and that isn't there's no way they're going to then in june impeach the president and they can be said to that this this judge's decision is a bit of them outlier in terms of what the precedent has historically been the congress subpoenaed attorney general eric holder to come and testify and fast and furious he refused he was cited for contempt of congress. actually department for justice department could forget that dominated congresses and democrats i have never seen mor

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's to go i think the mccanns are going to see a process that they know is unfair where the republicans are not allowed to call witnesses without the permission of adam schiff, where the president's council is not allowed to question witnesses, i think they are appalled to say this over and over again although technically the democrats are allowed to have an unfair process, the american people want a fair process or anyone, whether it's the president or anyone else, has a chance to defend themselves. >> martha: he may, suggesting that president trump was sort of motivated by his own personal concerns when it comes to foreign policy. what you say to that? >> i saw the pressure reports on investor bolton's comments on i don't agree with them but i will tell you, he has a history of speaking very carefully. we don't know that he said these things. i hope you didn't say them and i would like him to answer for what exactly it was that he said but three individuals made these allegations, media outlets had to call today to confirm them, their similar stories in the past that they weren't true

would say that remember madeleine mccann the little girl that went missing that was portugal and theyt. i'm a little skeptical about that. >> you are not alone. >> dana: jill, give me the last word on where you think this goes from here p.r. wise? >> there have been calls to call for an end to the monarchy who have already said the monarchy is too expensive. what's the point, are using this to say look, we are putting too much money into these people and what they giving us? >> dana: they are not above the law. >> they are not above the law. >> dana: indeed. we will hear that everyone now. have a great weekend. >> do you. >> dana: shocking increase on screen use by toddlers, creator creator of shows like daniel tiger and blues clues will join us to respond. get 0 percent apr fo r 60 months on all 2019 models. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. at bayer, we're into the golden years. with better heart treatments, advanced brain disease research, and better ways to age gracefully. at bayer, this is why we science. i'm a verizon engineer, and i'm part of the team building the most p

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when the little girl madeleine mccann went missing and that was in portugal, the british parents, remember becomes an all-out search. and that wasn't in the jurisdiction, either. but they went and did all of that to me, i think that the royal family and the u.k. government is going to have to figure out a way to do something to move it forward. >> doug: i couldn't agree more, dana. this is a huge, huge public relations challenge for the british, for their nation. and for the monarchy. they have got to keep prince andrew quiet. avoid interviews like the one he did before where he used euphemistic language that on reflects was absurd and grossly offensive. most of all he does have to talk to authorities. he cannot use his royal position to avoid it. really, the stability of british democracy and certainly the monarchy requires it. lawrence lawrence he is avoidirence: it's because he is a royal that-here's my problem with it. he doesn't seem sympathetic as well. when he gave that interview, he didn't seem like he didn't want to be associated with jeffrey epstein. he seemed like he valued the

mccann's lawyer says don mcgahn will compile with the decision unless it is stayed pending appeal. the doj is handling this case so you'll need to ask them whether they intend to seek a stay. while this legal fight is not over, tonight's ruling has significant implications for other trump administration officials who have been instructed not to testify about donald trump's scheme to pressure ukraine to investigate and the rival in exchange for military aid. those potential witnesses include secretary of state mike pompeo and chief of staff nick mulvaney and former national security advisor john bolton. jonathan schaub, a former attorney in the justice department's office of legal counsel told "the washington post" this ruling could quote cover for other witnesses especially former employees who are inclined to testify but feel compelled by the white house's direction not to. house intelligence committee char man adam schiff said the democrats are moving forward with the impeachment inquiry while leaving the door open for more witnesses to come forward. tonight, chairman schiff had

ifpeachment because don mccann would tey to obstruction of justice if democrats want the pursue that,a court ru hles th must testify, that could change time license, could change calculations and could it's something we'll watch closely next wk. oodruf broadened impeachment inquiry focus. >> right. >> woodruff: so, lisa, chat about thmittee that's been last few weeks, the intelligence committee, they still have work to do. congress is town but staff is working day and night. they are producing a report r thort will be the evidence as they see it against this president, and it will be a critical piece of information. at the same time, we should expect house republicans on the intelligence committee led by jijordan and devin nunes to put together their own report, facts and findinatgs. going to happen after that, those reports will be presented to the public, then the house judiciary committee will take up the issues and, judy, when the house judiciary commhetee meets, they have right to call public hearings. i'm told we should expect some but nonef the same witnesses as we saw this wee

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donald trump a transcript of her testimony to the inquiry has been released along with that of michael mccann the former advisor to the section of states mike can pay you your vote of it said ukrainian officials warns her that trumps allies were looking at south hearts her reputation on monday for officials colt's testify before the inquiry never showed up you will see in ambassador of on a vicious testimony what a dedicated public servant she is this is someone who serve the country with distinction for decades it is someone who also is one of the 1st witnesses to this irregular back channel that the president's established with rudy giuliani and the damage that it was doing to america's national security and foreign policy interests how it was working at. in opposition not in support of u.s. policy objectives. well president trump is about to hold a rally in the city of lexington kentucky white house correspondent kimberly who is there kimberly 1st of all to the impeachment inquiry what will we learn from those transcripts. well certainly this is public and that is significant given the fac

mccann could invoke executive privilege during his testimony when appropriate, but she declared that presidents cannot unilaterally block officials from testifying. adding, quote, stated simply, the primary takeaway from the past 250 years of recorded american history is that presidents are not kings. the chairman of the house judiciary committee jerry nadler praised the judge's decision, saying in a statement, quote, don mcgahn is a central witness to allegations that president trump obstructed special counsel mueller's investigation and the administration's claim that officials can claim absolute immunity from congressional subpoenas has no basis in law. as the court recognized today. now that the court has ruled, i expect him to follow his legal obligations and promptly appear before the committee. it's not clear how promptly that might be. the department of justice announced its plans to quickly appeal the ruling and said it will stay -- seek a stay to block its enforcement. mcgahn's lawyer says don mcgahn will comply with judge jackson's decision unless it is stayed pending appe

understand why anybody would think this -- footnote three, in any event, we read haldeman at did the judge mccann in a separate opinion as fitting within the rule six exception for judicial proceedings. it's a footnote to judge help asking about that. it's a footnote and the pointed out, to my knowledge, footnotes by the d.c. circuit our law. and the court had to reach that point because if it didn't, that changes the court precedent about what haldeman held. so it needs to reach that point and, therefore, this is a statement the court makes in its opinion in order to help explain its opinion and give its rational. i don't know of any definition the says that is not a a holdi. so that is to my mind clear. one also preliminary things i appreciated, i think judge rogers picked up on this. my friend said the government, which he is obviously used to saying. i'm here for the government, thousands represents is a first branch and it's the justice department and the house of representatives, where both the government but we're the first branch. so we get to this major departure here. >> after the first

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reporter john mccann covered the trial for "the durham herald-sun." >> the tone was definitely, you knowhere. you got denita's people on the other side. tense is a good word for it. >> reporter: especially tense for denita's mother, sharon, who for the first time made eye contact with the woman accused of murdering her daughter. >> shannon would look at me with this little smirky look on her face. she's very cocky, like she knew she was going to get off. no remorse. she didn't feel she had done anything. >> they had only been engaged for two months. >> reporter: assistant d.a. david saacks, an experienced, savvy prosecutor, would now square off against a younger court-appointed defense attorney named scott holmes. >> it's important, i think, to try to see the world, try to see the world from the eyes of shannon on the days that led up to and the day that this happened. >> the whole trial was basically us saying that shannon crawley committed this murder and the defense saying jermeir stroud did this murder. that was basically the trial. >> reporter: detective shawn pate worried shannon c

reporter john mccann covered the trial for "the durham herald-sun." >> the tone was definitely, you know here. you got denita's people on the other side. tense is a good word for it. >> reporter: especially tense for denita's mother, sharon, who for the first time made eye contact with the woman accused of murdering her daughter. >> shannon would look at me with this little smirky look on her face. she's very cocky, like she knew she was going to get off. no remorse. she didn't feel she had done anything. >> they had only been engaged for two months. >> reporter: assistant d.a. david saacks, an experienced, savvy prosecutor, would now square off against a younger court-appointed defense attorney named scott holmes. >> it's important, i think, to try to see the world, try to see the world from the eyes of shannon on the days that led up to and the day that this happened. >> the whole trial was basically us saying that shannon crawley committed this murder and the defense saying jermeir stroud did this murder. that was basically the trial. >> reporter: detective shawn pate worried shannon