they submitted to him at every turn and kevin mccarthy is exhibit a. who in classic washington fashion wants a job, and wants to be speaker of the house. he is not going to, it's not going to work for him if he doesn't keep donald trump happy. the thing that donald trump has a spell on people is that he thinks that they are essentially weak and he has been proven right one time after another. but as you said before, perjury can have a very chilling effect on these calculations, and look, kevin mccarthy once he goes under oath, he is aware of how the law works. so he is going to have to tell the truth. i think in this particular case, we're talking about one phone conversation, it wouldn't surprise me at all if donald trump deny that this happened. that is what he does. i'm not sure who to believe in this case, but ultimately, donald trump is going to see the walls caving in pretty quickly here. and again, this sort of flimsy friendship coat that he operates under is going to cave in pretty quickly, once you are under the threat of purgatory. >> mark, w

but i think, privately, kevin mccarthy has cut these members some slack. going to be any punishment for crossing them, because he knows deep down this is important for all of them to win back the majority. >> melanie, great reporting, s.e., thank you so much for the commentary this morning. great to see you both. >>> so we were just talking about the joe manchin/chuck schumer deal, a deal that sent shock waves across the capitol this week. how will this bill that deals with climate change, and health care costs, drug prices, how will it affect your life on a daily basis? joining us now, cnn chief business correspondent, christine romans. romans, there's a lot in here. >> yeah. they've branded this the inflation reduction act. price tag, you've heard about it, $739 billion. but what's in it? here's some of what's supposed to put money back in the pockets of people who need it most. historic price caps. for the first time ever, allowing medicare to limit prescription drug prices. seniors and people on disability would pay no more than $2,000 a year out of po

one of these people, one of those people was republican leader kevin mccarthy. he managed to get the pre%ident on the phone and told him to call off a supporters. as you will hear, the president refused. and so leader mccarthy reached out for help to of our can trump who was at the white house in jared kushner, who that afternoon had just arrived back on a flight from the middle east. >> so at some point in the afternoon, mr. robb and mccarthy, a place a phone call to mister scavino zest line and it was transferred to the president. is correct? >> that's generally where on. >> they were. you involved in making that transferring that call? >> i >> yes. >> that where is the president at the time that he took that call? >> it was in the dining room. >> would you personally reach out to the president for more support? >> i've already talked to the president i call them. i think we need to make a statement make sure that we can calm individuals down. >> did mister mccarthy indicated he had been in touch with president trump? he he had some conversation. i don't recal

leader mccarthy who had a good relationship with.eally ugly it over at the capitol and said please, anything you can do to help i would appreciate it. i don't recall specific requests, just anything you could do. again i got the sense that they were scared. >> they meaning leader mccarthy and people on the hill because of the? violence >> he was scared yes. >> think about that, leader mccarthy who was one of the presidents strongest supporters was scared and begging for help. president trump turned him down. so we tried to call the presidents children. republican house member mike gallagher also implored the president to call off the attack. >> mister president, you have got to stop this. you are the only person who can call this off. call it off. the election is over. call it off. >> president elect joe biden also went live on tv to demand that president trump told the mob to leave. >> i call on president trump to go on national television now to fulfill his oath and defend the constitution and demand an end to this siege. >> there

mccarthy put a phone call to mr. sue pinots desk line and it was connected to the president, is that correct? were you involved in transferring that call? >> yes. >> where was the president at the time that he took that call? >> he was in the dining room. >> would you personally reach out to the president for more support? >> i already talked to the president, i called him. i said we -- i think we need to make a statement, make sure we can calm individuals down. >> did mr. mccarthy indicate that he had been in touch with president trump? >> he indicated that he had some conversation i don't recall if it was with the president or someone at the white house. he expressed frustration that they were not taking the circumstance as seriously as they should at that moment. >> i asked the republican leader, he got through to president trump and he said, you need to get on tv, you need to get on twitter, and call these people off. the president said to him, these are my people -- these aren't my people, these are antifa. they

think about that leader mccarthy. who was one of the president's strongest supporters, was scared and begging for help. president trump turned him down. so he tried to call the president's children. republican house member mike gallagher also implored the president to call off the attack. mister president, you have got to stop this. you are the only person who can call this off, call it off. the election is over, call it off. as an elect, joe biden also went live on t v to demand the president. trump tell the mob to leave. i'd call on president trump to go on national television now to fulfill his oath and defend the constitution and demand an end to this siege. there was a desperate scramble for every one to get president trump to do anything. all this occurred and the president still did not act. i yielded my friend from virginia. thank you mister kennedy, car accident trump finally relented to the please from his staff, his family and from capitol hill for him to do something more at for 1787 minutes more than 3 ho

kevin mccarthy pushed back on that. mccarthy said he did recall a conversation with trump white house aide dan scavino. when i asked, he said he was just trying to find the president. wolf. . >> manu raju on capitol hill, thanks for all of that. let's get analysis from whitney wild, as well as legal analyst elliot williams, and nia malika henderson. i know you have new exclusive reporting on when the homeland security department's inspector general first learned of these missing secret service text messages. what can you share with us? >> what we are learning is that this inspector general's office knew many months. so what we learned of the inspector general's office was aware in december 2021. now sources are telling cnn that the dhs oig's office knew about that as early as may of 2021. and later on, two months later in july of 2021, wolf, our sources are telling us the inspector general's office told investigators with the department of homeland security they were no longer seeking those text messages. this timeline

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this is aiden mccarthy. aiden is two years old. his mom and dad took him to the fourth of july parade at highland park. i first heard about him just an hour or two after this terrible incident. i called my friend who is the mayor of highland park and asked her -- tell me, what can i do? she said, i don't know. things are happening so fast. we actually found a two-year-old toddler who was wandering the street by himself. we don't know who he belongs to. his picture is being circulated in the community, though the conclusion is fairly obvious -- whoever brought him to the parade was not able to look for him and care for him. the story eventually unfolded. kevin and irina mccarthy brought kevin to the parade, his first parade, and then when the shooting started, they shielded him with their bodies. in a matter of minutes, aiden lost most of -- lost both of his parents. fortunately, a grandparent was located and aiden is in safe hands today, but because of this assault weapon being fired on the crowd, he lost his mom and dad. that's th

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mccarthy placed a phone call to mr. scavino's desk line and it was transferred to the president, is that correct? >> that's generally what i recall. >> okay. were you involved in making that, transferring that call? >> i -- yes. >> okay. where was the president at the time he took that call? >> he was in the dining room. >> would you personally reach out to the president for more support? >> i've already talked to the president. i called him. i think we need to make a statement, make sure that we can calm individuals down. >> did mr. mccarthy indicate he had been in touch with president trump? >> he indicated that he had had some conversation, i don't recall whether it was with the president or somebody at the white house. but i think he expressed frustration not taking the circumstances as seriously as they should at that moment. >> i asked kevin mccarthy, who's a republican leader, about this. he called donald trump -- he finally got through to donald trump and he said, you have got to get on tv, you have got to get o

leader mccarthy who had a good relationship with.u can do to help i would appreciate it. i don't recall specific requests, just anything you could do. again i got the sense that they were scared. >> they meaning leader mccarthy and people on the hill because of the? violence >> he was scared yes. >> think about that, leader mccarthy who was one of the presidents strongest supporters was scared and begging for help. president trump turned him down. so we tried to call the presidents children. republican house member mike gallagher also implored the president to call off the attack. >> mister president, you have got to stop this. you are the only person who can call this off. call it off. the election is over. call it off. >> president elect joe biden also went live on tv to demand that president trump told the mob to leave. >> i call on president trump to go on national television now to fulfill his oath and defend the constitution and demand an end to this siege. >> there was a desperate scramble from everyone to get president trump

mccarthy put a phone call to mr. sue pinots desk line and it was connected to the president, is that correct? were you involved in transferring that call? >> yes. >> where was the president at the time that he took that call? >> he was in the dining room. >> would you personally reach out to the president for more support? >> i already talked to the president, i called him. i said we -- i think we need to make a statement, make sure we can calm individuals down. >> did mr. mccarthy indicate that he had been in touch with president trump? >> he indicated that he had some conversation i don't recall if it was with the president or someone at the white house. he expressed frustration that they were not taking the circumstance as seriously as they should at that moment. >> i asked the republican leader, he got through to president trump and he said, you need to get on tv, you need to get on twitter, and call these people off. the president said to him, these are my people -- these aren't my people, these are antifa. they

mccarthy placed a phone call to mr. scavino's desk line, and it was transferred to the president, is that correct? >> that's generally what i recall. >> okay. were you involved in making that -- transferring that call? >> yes. >> okay. where was the president at the time that he took that call? >> he was in the dining room. >> would you personally reach out to the president for more support? >> i've already talked to the president. i called him. i think we need to make a statement, make sure that we can calm individuals down. >> did mr. mccarthy indicate he had been in touch with president trump? >> he indicated he had had some conversation, i don't remember if it was the president or somebody at the white house. he had expressed frustration that not taking the circumstances as seriously as they should at the moment. >> i asked kevin mccarthy, the republican leader about this, and he said he called -- he final lip got through to donald tr trump. he said you have got to get on tv, get on twitter and call the people off.

mccarthy called me with this information. i the call and he sounded rushed -- i answered the call, and he sounded rushed and angry at me, i was confused, because i did not know what the president had just said. he then explained, the president just that he is marching to the capitol, you told me this whole week that you are not coming up here, why would you lie to me? i said, i wasn't lying to you, sir, we are not going to the capitol. and he said, he just set it on stage, cassidy, figure it out, do not come up here. i said, i will assure you we are noo the capitol, we have already made that decision. he pressed a little bit more, believing me, but frustrated that the president had said that. and we entered the phone conversation after that. i called tony to reconfirm that we were not going to the capitol, which was also in our text messages. i sent esther mccarthy another text, -- i sent to mr. mccarthy another text with the affirmative that we were not going up to the capitol and he did not respond after that. >> we underst

kevin mccarthy is trying to keep his caucus happy. no on anything that gives biden a win. mcconnell has a different task because a lot of folks in his caucus want to actually legislate. they want to make laws. they don't just want to confirm judges and vote no on stuff. they actually want to do things and get things done. so mcconnell is trying to keep some of his folks in the caucus happy and, yes, the politics of this, too. especially on the gun bill. mcconnell won for trying to deny democrats on issue in the midterms by taking some of the steam out of that. that is part of the reason why he is part of that. >> here we are friday on a week where joe biden should have a spring in his step. he is back from, you know, had a quick recovery from covid. he'll sign the chips bill next month. makes big investments in american semiconductors or technology. signed the bipartisan gun law last month. possibly. we'll see. want to count the votes first. a little skeptical the democrats can get the climate, energy, and health bill to the finish li

mccarthy placed a phone call to mr. scavino's are line and it was transferred to the presidential, is that correct? >> that is generally what i recall. >> okay, were you involved in making that transferring that call? >> i -- i -- yes. >> okay, where was the president at the time that he took that call? >> he was in the dining room. >> would you personally reach out to the president for more support? >> i've already talked to the if the. i called him. i think we need to make a statement. make sure that we can calm individuals down. >> did mr. mccarthy indicate that he had been in touch with president trump? >> he indicated that he had had some conversation. i don't recall whether it was with the president or somebody at the white house. but i think he'd expressed frustration that not taken the circumstances as seriously as he should at that moment. >> i asked kevin mccarthy who is the renal leader about this and he said he called donald -- finally got through to donald trump and said you have got to get on tv, got to ge

trump is again -- mccarthy and trump are again close allies. he believes that he is politically necessary for him, whereas mcconnell, mitch mcconnell, senate minority leader, does not. mitch mcconnell post-january 6 denounced trump, hasn't talked to him since those days. does not seek his approval or thinking on anything. and that is the difference between the senate republicans right now and the house republicans. >> let me ask you this if that might change because what we're seeing in some polling is that desantis in florida is chasing donald trump in the polls. and is coming pretty close. there is a lot of talk about whether he would be a better nominee for the republican party among republicans that i've been hearing. is that going to change the way mccarthy treats donald trump or do you still need donald trump in a circumstance where ron desantis comes in to power? >> that is a really good question. i think that desantis doesn't command -- first of all, speaking of desantis, he doesn't command the blind loyalty and doesn't demand that all

that mccarthy, again, didn't remember. so, yeah, it is a convenient epidemic of missing memories, missing records. >> it's true. i mean, convenient amnesia. although, i did hear mccarthy make a statement, if she said it or if it happened, i don't recall, which really has a lot of the legal qualities of that's an election, the statement you make as a preface before you say something to guard against having to be held accountable for maybe it being wrong. michelle, i wonder what it says to you that the text messages that we know about or that may have gone missing somehow, that secret service knew they were gone seven months earlier than what they actually told congress? what strikes you about that? >> what strikes me about that is they're covering their butts. they were kind of hoping that none of this would have to come out at all. one of the great rules of thumb here is if you can avoid having to deal with this, you don't actually want to have to come clean about having done something. whether you meant to do it or whethe

you spoke with mccarthy. i'm curious what he said to you. >> reporter: he claimed he did not recall this conversation even though this was one of the more riveting parts of her testimony, saying that the republican leader called her up and was angry about learning that donald trump said to his supporters that they were going to go to the capitol h, that he was going to go to the capitol. according to hutchinson's testimony she said that mccarthy was concerned because she had reassured him through the course of the whole week that that was not going to happen. and mccarthy apparently told her, according to hutchinson's testimony, don't come up here. so when i tried to press mccarthy about that conversation, he claimed he did not recall it. cassidy hutchinson testified -- >> we're going to january 6th, go ahead. >> she testified under oath -- >> you know we're in this recession, too, right? >> reporter: she testified under oath saying that you called her after donald trump said that -- told supporters there the

how could it be worse if the next speaker is kevin mccarthy than what we've got right now? how could that possibly be worse? of course anything's possible but the sun may not come up tomorrow but the bottom line is why doesn't c-span cover what the governor of california did in the white house while the president was overseas. >> i think what's going on is there's a lot of white guilt out there. there's a lot ofpeople who were afraid to say what they really think . we'll find out in november . i certainly hope that there's a change, a big change. and then people can say all right. here's the big change and , when who knows who's going to run for the democrats. i mean, it's ridiculous how many people are out there going well, maybe joe is not good enough . so is it going to be joe and donald again? if it is i'll vote for donald to cause this guy, you don't have to like him. he knows what he's doing. >> that's great there in pennsylvania. let's assume as that pulling tells us or if the republicans do take control of the house has there been any telegraphing of what republican

leader mccarthy. _ the violence? yes. leader mccarthy. one _ the violence? yes.this siege. there was a desperate _ to this siege. there was a desperate scramble - to this siege. there was a desperate scramble for i to this siege. there was a - desperate scramble for everyone to get president trump to do anything. all this occurred and the president still did not act. president trump finally relented to the pleas from his staff, his family and from capitol hill for him to do something more at 4.17, more than three hours after he stopped speaking at the ellipse. after he stopped speaking to a mob that he had sent, armed, to the capital. that is when he tweeted a video telling the rioters to go home, while also telling them they were special, and that he loved them. by that time, the violence was far from over. law enforcement had started to turn the tide. reinforcements on the way. elected officials were in secure locations. back to bread with more information.— back to bread with more information. ~ ., ., ., information. what do you have? our team are — informatio

kevin mccarthy when i wrote my last washington back, kevin mccarthy and lindsey graham were players in that. because donald trump was there, they all knew better but they threw in with him because mccarthy wanted to be speaker of the house and lindsey graham loves the idea of golfing with the president. it like being at the dice table, as he says. >> i want to read a part of the book. you wrote about every event of the candidacy and then the big events of presidency. you're writing about the first impeachment and how romney has decided to vote to convict, having a conversation with him beforehand. you write "romney was the first senator to depart the chamber. barely any of his republican colleagues even looked at him as he walked out. it was as if they were afraid that romney might meet their eyes and some acknowledgement might be called for, something they could not face." what could they not face? >> that's a great question. >> this is the ukraine call, by the way. the shakedown call. >> this was impeachment one, right. that morning i sat in romney's office and he said i will tell yo

mccarthy called me with this information. i answered the call and he sounded rushed but also frustrated and angry at me. i was confused, because i didn't know where the president had just said. tn explained the president had said he's marching us to the you. you told me this whole week you're not coming up here. why would you lie to me? i said i'm not lying, i wasn't lying to you, sir. we are not going to the capitol. and then he said, well he just said it onstage, cassidy. figure it out. don't come up here. i said i will run the traps on this and i can assure you were not coming up to capitol the weave. already made that decision. he pressed a little bit more. believing me but i think frustrated that the president had said that. we ended the phone conversation after that. i called mr. ornato to confirm we weren't going to the capital. this was also in our text messages. i sent mr. mccarthy another text, telling him that we were not going up to the capitol. he didn't respond after that. >> and we understand, miss hutchinson,

for kevin mccarthy last night she used testimony from jared kushner. >> i saw mccarthy. really ugly at the capitol and please, anything you can do to help. i don't recall a specific ask. i got the sense they were, you know, they were scared. >> they meaning mccarthy and people on the will. >> he was scared, yes. >> i am going to talk about that in a second. he turned the shower off. he was in the shower as the u.s. capitol ewas being attacked. >> not a strong character witness. >> more importantly the point is critical. jared kushner saying kevin mccarthy was scared. clear attempts to remind people in the moments during the attack and after the attack denny mccarthy understood the gravity of it. they want to the make it clear to the former president. the word scared was fascinating. maybe a double whammy. >> what do you call it, trolling? when we come back millions under heat warnings around the globe as scorching weather terrorizes the globe around the world, europe, china a next. ♪ subway's drafting 12 new subs for the all-new subway series menu the new monster has jui

it is my job to bring light to what is happening, we need new leadership in the house, kevin mccarthy district, he knows the border well, i look forward to him being next speaker of the house. trey: you mentioned drew ferguson and kevin mccarthy, they are both republicans, ill play clips for you. of two folks who are not republicans. >> this is a real burden on new yorkers. there is a whole host of things that this will produce, we need help. >> we're dealing with federal issue. that the district of columbia won't be able to bear. it requires the federal response. trey: all right congressman that is the mayor of new york and mayor of dc. unless something happens as we went on air tonight, they are democrats that are complaining about the state of immigration in the country. what is the democrat house plan? what have they didn't since they had all of the gears of government beginning in 2020? >> we would see these democrat mayors, and other folks, complain about it, it is is chaos, you are see democrats control the house, and senate and white house, they created this problem. i am of t

but republican leader kevin mccarthy tried to stack the committee with election denier congressman jimanks of india and trump sycophant and coup supporter, perhaps coconspirator, congressman jim jordan of ohio. nancy pelosi firmly rejected both men, who obviously had no place in a serious investigation into that -- >> these people are going to act up, cause a problem, and people said to me, put them on, and then when you act up, take them off. i said, why should we waste time on something as predictable. the republicans that they put on will have their own point of view. nobody is saying that it all should be one point of view for the committee. but it is, when statements of our ridiculous and fall into the realm of, you must be kidding, there's no way that they are going to be on the committee. >> so, pelosi says no two members. not all of them. just two of the members proposed. kevin mccarthy in turn accused pelosi of breaking with president by rejecting his patently unfit choices. >> speaker pelosi has taken the unprecedented step of denying the minority parties picks for the select

the only time he apparently did so was in that private call with kevin mccarthy. there's something else president trump has never acknowledged, the names and the memories of the officers who died following the attack on the capitol. we're honored to be joined tonight by police and first responders who bravely protected us on january 6th. your character and courage give us hope that democracy can and should prevail even in the face of a violent insurrection. we can never thank you enough for what you did to protect our democracy. on january 9th, two of president trump's top campaign officials texted each other about the president's glaring silence on the tragic death of capitol police officer brian sicknick, who succumbed to his injuries the night of january 7th. his campaign officials were tim murtaugh and one of his deputies matthew walking. they knew his heart, his mind and his voice as well as anyone and they knew how he connects with his supporters. here's what they had to say about their boss. murtaugh said, also shitty not to have acknowledged the death of t

leibovich wrote this, i've known graham and mccarthy for years.lassically washington type. fun to be around, starstruck, and desperate to keep their jobs or get better ones to maximize their place in the all-important mix. on various occasions, i've asked them in so many words how they could saddle up to trump like they have. the answer basically is that they did it because it was the savviest course. because it was best for them. nearly all elected republicans in washington needed trump's blessing and voters to remain there. people like mccarthy and graham benefitted a great deal from making it work with trump or managing the relationship, as they say. i could get trump on the phone faster than any staff person who worked for him could get him on the phone, mccarthy bragged to me. there was always a breathless, racing quality to both men's voices when they talked about the thrill ride of being one of trump's guys. joe. >> it is fascinating. this is a great piece. what's so fascinating is -- >> it's kind of sad. >> -- mark leibovich has a relation

mccarthy bragged to me. being one of his guys. i'm wondering in these conversations, did they see the other side of this? the damage being done to democracy. another thing he does. he likes to sort of get stuff on people. think he can kind of hold over them. i just wonder why some of these men were pushed so far.>> volumes can be written about that. i will say the question is, did they know? of course they did. they would know within and conceding that like, oh, my god, they all know the truth about this. lindsey graham, all of them have this expression, you have to get the joke about trump. the joke is that in private they have no respect for him. at worst, they think he is a dangerous lunatic. but to say that publicly is going to make them obsolete within the republican party. and again what you've seen again and again is a dereliction of any kind of character whatsoever. it is sort of a game to them. you ask, mika, do they care? no. there is a whole section in the book sort of listing, i don't care. i don

and after kevin mccarthy named his members to the committee and speaker pelosi rejected two of them,d jim banks, for good reason. i supported her decision to do that. kevin mccarthy withdrew all of his other nominees, and so the notion now that somehow the committee is incapable of getting to the facts of what happened because kevin mccarthy withdrew his nominees is nonsensical. it also is a diversion. and i point out again, nearly every single one of our witnesses has been a republican. you know, rusty bowers, brad raffensperger. >> bret: i understand, we have the list. cross-examination is an important thing in committee hearings, right? >> representative cheney: that's right. but i would also point out that i think it is highly unlikely, and i think you would agree, that any of those witnesses' testimony would be any different at the questioning been different, and it is -- it is -- it would be a dereliction of our duty to be in a position where because kevin mccarthy decided to withdraw nominees and he decided to do that, i'm quite confident, because donald trump told him to, bec

, why would donald trump for kevin mccarthy? i know mitch mcconnell, he stood up to him. on desantis is someone who could potentially be against him. i get that. but why would he fear kevin mccarthy? >> it's not fair, it's jealousy. if donald trump does not on the news cycle of election night, then kevin mccarthy does as the incoming republican speaker of the house. mcconnell does as the leader of the senate iran to chant east as the future of the party. donald trump won't let that happen. >> oh, okay, thanks for clarifying. also today, we have the washington post with this updated list, i'm looking at it right now, of ten top democratic candidates for 2024. it comes about a week after this poll from the new york times said that a majority of democrats want someone other than president biden to run in the election. so, when you look at the list, michael, i'll give it to you, do you see any names that could feasibly lead the party two years from now? >> look, i think governor prince kerr is someone who's making a lot of noise. >>

kevin mccarthy said we need a bipartisan outside commission to investigate this attack.gotiated and got all the terms he wanted he pulled the rug out from under the republicans that were supporting it and made sure it was defeated in the senate. once a bipartisan outside commission was defeated the only alternative was this committee. after kevin mccarthy named his members to the committee and speaker pelosi rejected two of them jim jordan and jim thanks for good reason, i supported her decision to do that, he withdrew all of his other nominees. the notion now that somehow that committee is incapable of getting to the facts of what happened because kevin mccarthy is nonsensical. it is also a diversion. nearly every single one of our witnesses has been a republican rusty bowers, brad -- bret: i understand. we have the list. cross-examination is an important thing in committee hearings, right? >> that's right. i would also point out that i think it is highly unlikely and i think you would agree that any of those witnesses testimony would be any different had the questionin

there are some of the more active supporters, graham and mccarthy -- one of the thing -- things theseast few weeks have put in sharp relief is that there is another way to do this. there is the simple patriotism of telling the truth, among honest people like cassidy hutchinson or rusty bowers from arizona who have stepped forward and told the truth. judy: i want to ask you to get at this distinction between republicans, americans who genuinely believe that but general -- what donald trump said, they think he is the right answer still. and on the other hand, the republicans who, your argument is, they know better, but they still are working for him. mark: the working title of this in my own head is they all knew better. there's a sort of chicken and egg question involved in this. everyone saying one of donald trump superpowers is that he has the unyielding support of his face. -- of his base. i think the reason largely is not so much that he has this magic touch over his voters. he does to some degree, but ultimately, the white light has been raised by a lot of the leaders of the party

committee, of course, wants to talk to kevin mccarthy, kevin mccarthy not going to comment i'm told,according to his office. but also silence from other top republicans, steve scalise the number two republican on the house side has not commented, neither senate republican leader mitch mcconnell, someone else who is featured prominently in today's hearing by all those video clips of him criticizing donald trump, there was some notable reaction from the house republican conference, the twitter account run by -- her office tweeted an attack against sarah matthews who, of course, testified here tonight. they later deleted that tweet after getting much blowback and then had been relatively silent, criticizing this hearing ever since. but this is all strategic, anderson, republicans don't want anything to do with the revelations coming from this hearing, they want to attack the committee as just being political without getting into the nitty-gritty of these revelations, instead, focusing on issues they believe will help win back the congress in the midterm elections like the economy, infla

kevin mccarthy told me directly he wasn't going to sign it.s not a brief we ought to be associated with. and then a free hours later he signed it. >> the brief went out without kevin mccarthy's name and then the next day claiming he was inadvertently left off and he signed onto it. that was bad. he initially didn't want to sign it and realized what the pressure was. what you see there people sign-on to something they don't believe to avoid political pressure. it's leaders who are afraid of their base and not leading their base. >> the supreme court declined to even hear the suit. >> a majority of house republicans, like two-thirds of them literally saying i don't want any of the votes from pennsylvania. i don't want any of them to count base on this lie. i'll just say for me personally as a pennsylvanian, they were trying to disinenfranchise my m and dad based on lies. >> i don't know how everyone doesn't take that personally. they did not want your vote to count based on nothing whatsoever. that is so mind-bending and so difficult to comprehe

i'm angry for aiden mccarthy. i'm angry for the kid who next week will be aiden mccarthy. this needs to end. >> and i share that, and i usually am very, very careful about being down the middle on this, on all issues. when i saw that, those interviews about aiden mccarthy, i was going to ask you about the little boy. and kathy goldstein. >> looking for her mom, they were in the basement, hiding for their lives. not only did we have the carnage happen, everyone had to hide for hours because he was on the loose and nobody knew what he was going to be doing next. people were hiding in the basements of gas stations for hours. i kept getting texts because we are all a community. we are all a family. you know, kathy was a band member and i'm a band mom. it's unbelievable. where is kathy's mom, nobody had her, we called every hospital because she had already passed away. katie goldstein was a fabulous human being did not deserve to die this way. all the band parents showed up to cheer the band, when i saw them running down the street, i was like, why are they running down the str

what did trump tell mccarthy and why won't mccarthy tell the committee?about mccarthy's role in that and what andrew wiseman described as a cover-up. it talks about trump calling the national guard. we know he did no such thing. >> i didn't really -- i'm tracking the mccarthy factor. i think it's stunning that he's escaped the amount of scrutiny in his role and communications that day. think about it. he was the republican house leader. he's on pace to be the speaker of the house again. he had communications with trump on that day where he got on the phone and asked trump to send assistance. he even called ivanka and jared trying to get the president to send help. he was scared was the quote from jared kushner. yet, kevin mccarthy won't testify to the president's state of mind that day. what is he hiding? the committee asked him to sit for a voluntary talk. he refused. they sent him a subpoena. he refused. we know it was stunning he went to mar-a-lago and helped rehab the president. i think his actions on january 6th going from the moment to where he was

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caller: how could it be worse if the next speaker is kevin mccarthy than what we have got right now? how could that possibly be worse? anything is possible. the sun may not, tomorrow, but the bottom line is why doesn't c-span cover what the governor of california did in the white house while the president was too young -- while the president was overseas? there is a lot of white guilt, a lot of people afraid to say what they really think. we will find out in november. i hope that there is a big change. people can say, here is the big change. in 2024, who knows who will run for the democrats. it is ridiculous how people are going, maybe joe is not good enough. is it going to beat joe and donald again? , i vote donald -- if it is, i will vote for donald. he knows what he is doing it that she knows what he is doing. host: let us assume if the republicans do take control of the house, has there been any telegraph and of what a republican-controlled house would look like? guest: the republican majority, if it does come into existence, as my colleague nathan gonzales at inside elections wo

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