mccarty. nasa, the space aeronautic subcommittee of this committee, a few weeks ago on nasa climate science work, i heard a lot about remote sensing ability. this supports nasa's earth science activities. but primarily through data. questions about commercial data transparency. accessibility, license restrictions that could have implications for free and open access for federally funded earth science data. so what are your perspectives on the challenges of commercial remote sensing data sets and wildfire research? dr. mccarty: thank you for that question, congressman. i mean, commercial data is proprietary. so when we -- full disclosure who has -- they must be in the region the project which i competitively applied for has been selected. and so if i, for instance, between noaa and nasa, i was on the nasa side, i was able to look at commercial data sets and still able to look at data sets for regions -- we flew the dc-8 through the smoke. if i want to supply that to different states, that would