guest: it has been pushed by senator chuck grassley and senator clear mccaskill.publican and a democrat, respectively. senator chuck grassley has been one of the various orders of whistle-blowers, regardless of the target, a democrat or republican. caller: i just think that it is such a great topic and a great strategy. if the federal government had in place people whose post was to do just that, we could streamline the process so much better. i hope that as the effort goes forward, it would show that this is what our country needs. conservatives understand that will meet government, but we do not need the slack that we have with people pointing fingers in government all the time to reduce the fraud, we would not be paying be exorbitant tax rates that we do. people calling in this morning talking about social security, one out of two people -- i lived in a rv park, to your view of people -- two people are fraudulent and have lived there for 13 years. guest: as health care expand, you will need more whistle- blowers. that is the key for good government and accounta

guest: it has been pushed by senator chuck grassley and senator clear mccaskill.t republican and a democrat, respectively. senator chuck grassley has been one of the various orders of whistle-blowers, regardless of the target, a democrat or republican. caller: i just think that it is such a great topic and a great strategy. if the federal government had in place people whose post was to do just that, we could streamline the process so much better. i hope that as the effort goes forward, it would show that this is what our country needs. conservatives understand that will meet government, but we do not need the slack that we have with people pointing fingers in government all the time to reduce the fraud, we would not be paying be exorbitant tax rates that we do. people calling in this morning talking about social security, one out of two people -- i lived in a rv park, to your view of people -- two people are fraudulent and have lived there for 13 years. guest: as health care expand, you will need more whistle- blowers. that is the key for good government and acco

senator mccaskill >> thank you, mr. chairman. i thank all of you for being here. there are basically three areas i'd like to try to cover, quickly, that i think are important. an overarching concern is that of confidentiality. so many of the issues surrounding mental health, whether it is brought on by a brain injury or whether it's brought on by substance abuse, alcohol abuse, or prescription drug abuse, so much of the problem we have in the military is the stigma associated with getting help, particularly for active military, reserves, and national guard. and i'm sure you all are aware of the pilot program that is ongoing -- i know general chiarelli and i have talked about it -- for the confidentiality of alcohol and substance abuse treatment at three different facilities, where these soldiers are not being referred to their chain of command after they have sought treatment. i would like -- general chiarelli, could you address how that program is going, and whether you think this pilot program shows real potential for allowing folks to get help without the negat

as i leave the senate, i know that senators mccaskill and congressman young will continue to be stronges for the state. and i alsi believe god will give opportunities to be of service to our nation. and i look forward with proud hard and with confidence. i do not have a rearview mirror. i look only forward and i still look to the days ahead. god bless the alaska and our governor, and god bless the president, god bless the senate and every member of this body. i yield for the last time. >> the majority leader is recognized. [applause] from november, 2008. senator stevens passing this week was also -- was not the on the 144 member. a former dillon -- democratic rep who served from 1955 to 1995 and was the chairman of the ways and means committee for 13 years. his career ended in 19895 after a two-year investigation and he served 17 months in prison for mail fraud. in 2000, he was pardoned by president clinton. he sat down with richard norton smith and talked about his life and his career. this is an hour and a half. >> in case any of you are in doubt [unintelligible] [laughter] welcome o

. >> senator mccaskill. >> there are three areas i would like to cover quickly that i think are important an overarching concern is that of confidentiality. some in the issues surrounding mental health, whether is brought on by a brain injury or by substance abuse, alcohol abuse or prescription drug abuse, so much of the problem we have been the military is the stigma associated with getting for activeicularly u duty personnel. i am sure you are all aware of the pilot program that is ongoing for the confidentiality of alcohol and substance abuse treatment at three different facilities. these soldiers are not being read third -- referred to the chain of command after they have sought treatment. general, could you address of the program is going and whether you think this pilot program shows potential for allowing people to get help with the negative impact to their careers that some many of them fear right now? >> tremendous potential. we have done it at three installations. we started at fort carson in august and we are expanding to two others. this was approved a month ago. the only prob

you did not tell senator mccaskill about that. is that because you did not have about that.tchell is that because you did not have time to think about it? >> i do not know if that question was asked in relation to the steroids being injected. i thought about it and it came to me that that was another steroid use by mr. clemens. >> you testified in your deposition that mr. clemens le bled through his designer pants and a player noticed it and that is when you brought -- bought bandaids. mike stanton notice it and made a comment. now the trouble with those band- aids b hisutt -- bandaids for his butt. stanton was asking him if he was taking steroids and growth hormones. do limit -- do you recall any bleeding through your pants in 2001? >> i don't. i had no knowledge that michael stanton was using growth hormones. >> do you recall saying anything to mr. stanton about getting an edge? >> when i am on the mound, i want an edge. >> let me ask you, mr. mcnamee, can you explain that a little bit clearer? >> my best recollection was that i