chairman. >> thank you, senator mccaskle. senator shats. the votes started you think at :10. >> my question is fror mr. vincent. we know commissioner gid el recently changed the domestic violence policy to require a six-game suspension for first offenses. we also know that after he changed that policy mr. gid el personally called ray rice. what was the content of that conversation? >> i wasn't aware of him calling mr. rice. >> well, this has been widely reported and my understanding is that it was to reassure him that this would be applied prospectively rather than retro actively. and you're not aware of this? >> no, sir. >> ok. well, i would like to offer you these questions and you can get back to the committee because my question for you is about that is, is this normal? does the league consider this appropriate? does the commissioner as a general proposition interact directly with players who are subject to disciplinary proceedings? or was this a one-off? and i think it goes to the culture that senator heller spoke of in his opening sta