called for reinstating the draft during last month's athan ideas festival that mcchrystal also isn't alone and thinking that the draft again could be a good idea one of the ideas that gained more traction then i expect it was national service and something that general i stan mcchrystal admiral mike mullen both talked about and then valerie jarrett picked it up and you could see it moving through the festival a series about the draft because i do believe doing what. if someone has to serve it should be everyone has to be at least in a position to be liable to say it should not be left up to the weakest part of a community. so let's add a rick's to the list and explain his plan he argues that there should be three options for men and women at fresh out of high school number one they could do eighteen months of military service with low pay but with post service benefits like free college tuition number two they could opt to they could opt to not be deployed and instead they can perform office style tasks that are currently held by contractors for example doing paperwork money lawns dr

[applause] >> hello, i am mcchrystal -- crystal java, and i work for seiu 1021. i am also the daughter of a homeless man. when nonprofits are cut, it impacts not just the folks that work there, but also the people they care for. for the last five years, san francisco city funded nonprofits have not gotten an increase from the city. during that same time, health care costs have gone up an average of 10% to 20% for these organizations, workers' comp costs have gone up, workers are under more pressure. flat funding is a cut. along with the budget justice, we are asking for an increase this year for nonprofits. we would like your support in getting that. thank you. [applause] >> my name is darnell boyd and i am a tenant organizer. i am also a tenant representative at the mission hotel. when i got here two years ago, i used to run from the emergency shelter to the hospitality house, in the rain. the hospitality house helped me a lot. i used to have to run past people huddled over in doorways, in the rain, sleeping in wheelchairs'. i used to think, how can a city -- a

. >> walter, in the other conversation, stan mcchrystal for the first time talking openly about whatappened when that "rolling stone" article came out. said he got on a plane and flew back to the states from paris -- not from paris, from the middle east, and handed in his resignation. >> right. i think he felt you do not need to be that distracting to an administration, to a president, and he was very honorable about that. i certainly enjoyed being with him and admiral mullen. you see the leadership and the sense of honor that all of our military leaders have shown. >> one other thing that stan mcchrystal said in that conversation that really drove home to me, because we have been focusing here on education nation, also in partnership with you at the aspen ideas festival, when asked what is the greatest threat facing the united states, is it al qaeda, his answer was our declining schools, our poor education. this fits exactly what the council on foreign relations study that mike mullen was part of, condi rice, that schools, poor education is now the greatest national security threat.

and general mcchrystal suggested that we need to go back to a draft military, spread service around. do you feel that that's the right approach for us in the future to keep those same units from deploying over and over again and to bridge that gap between american military? >> i agree with stan that we need a program of national service but i do not agree we should reinstitute the draft. in other words, have an involuntary work force for the armed forces. we are more sophisticated today. we need a different array of skills than we needed in 1975. and so the bottom line is that the volunteer forces, the right thing for the department of defense if we can manage it in a way that doesn't drive out other things in the department. >> after 43 years of service, you and mrs. schwartz are getting a well deserved rest. what's next? >> hawaii for vacation and then we'll come back and >>> sir, thanks very much for spending as muscle time as you have -- much time as you have over the years. coming up, my notebook. >>> uk defense secretary philip hammond came to america this month to pick up brit

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i have heard that before, you know, general mcchrystal said to me three years ago, you know, the taliban are not a guy night number, you know, they have an infinite capacity to regenerate. >> rose: the troops. >> yes. >> rose: new troops are always coming in you can't kill your way out of this thing but the second point you ask about negotiating, making a peace deal with the taliban, the other part of this which is extremely complicated, a lot of the afghans don't want it, the north, the minorities, who suffer the most under the taliban, they are extremely suspicious and very wary of making any kind of deal with the taliban. >> rose: they say it is just delaying the inevitable? >> well, they are terrified that the taliban are going to come back -- >> rose: and -- >> yes that karzai is going to possibly bring them into the government or basically allow the taliban -- look the simple deal everybody talks about in afghanistan, what kind of deal, what is the simple deal? it is g if the taliban the south and give them the east, give them those provinces and call it peace and walk away. there

. >> we start tying our hand appeared the first was petraeus and mcchrystal recommended a minimum force of 30. they got 25% less. they wanted to conduct simultaneous campaigns to collapse the enemy and put pressure on them. but they could not do it. we had to do is sequentially. it drives up casualties. evaporate more political will at home. the second problem we have is petraeus wants to keep the surge forces, the 30,000, much longer and at a higher level. they are all gone. that is where we are at the time of your question. given those dynamics have already happened. there's pressure on the commanders to stay on a schedule that transitions our combat forces in 2013 totally and then the out of there by 2014. in my judgment what is happening to support that is far from condition based. that is a date we are moving to. by god we are doing it. we to take the pressure off of them so they can come back and say we have to slow this down a little bit. >> with nato forces scheduled to withdraw in 2014, experts testified on the progress of afghan security forces. watch this on line at the c-spa

>> it's a missed opportunity. >> i heard the ideas a festival when mcchrystal talked about this, peopleact, huge reaction. how many of those -- >> just not my kids. >> how many think their sons and daughters are going to serve in the military when they do that. not just purely a military context. >> i think you can define it in terms of real service. can't let it be so mushy people can just go hitch hiking around the country and call it service. i'm on the board of teaching america. i think people dedicate themselves to two years teaching in urban school districts, really important way to do national service. as mike said, it's a form of social mobility and mixing, whether you're in the navy or in teacher america or a public health corps or whatever we create, if you're there for a real commitment for two years with people of diverse backgrounds it's probably good for you and it's good for the country. >> we've had 30 years, really, in so many realms of american culture and the economy where it's all about ask what my country can do for me. not what i can do for my country. >> we have a

>> you know, i remember general mcchrystal said three years ago, the taliban are not a finite number.personally, i think that's still true. you can keep killing them forever and they're going to keep coming back. >> how long will we be there notwithstanding the withdrawal in 2014? >> well, i think the plan at this point is we stop fighting at the end of 2014. all the combat troops are gone. and they have -- >> there's a presence. >> yes. what they call an enduring presence. no one is given a number. how many american troops are going to stay there. say 10,000, 15,000. those are the numbers that i hear. what does that mean? i mean, that means they train troops, they, you know -- they fly -- maybe they fly air strikes, things like that. maybe some special forces guys to kill some al qaeda people. but basically no fighting. i think the plan is, if it works, those guys stay there indefinitely. i mean, it's like it will be korea. that's what they mention. look at the korean war. the american troops are still there 60 years later. and that worked. we don't know if this is going to work. >>

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dirk mcchrystal to rent a power tool company and seeing carlos told me it happens regularly. people come in and test our children go online because they can escape the sales tax. even though it still. it simply isn't her to merchants like eric would've invested in a storefront in hired employees to provide the service. ultimately, it isn't fair to the taxpayers who has a little obligation to pay, but isn't able to easily fulfill it or doesn't even know that they owe the tax and could be subject to audit and penalties for failure to pay. as ranking member conyers said, this is also about jobs. brick-and-mortar retailers create for jobs for every one job created by an online retailer. and they participate in our community. dave joined a chamber of commerce and the rotary clubs and wine clubs. they are engaged in our communities. so why should we be created that environment are places that is such a disadvantage? why are we picking winners and losers in this particular setting quiet the same way technology has made it easy for online shopping, technology has made it simpler for

the first was petraeus and mcchrystal and demanding a force of 40 and they got 30. what did that do to was? they wanted to conduct a simultaneous campaign to collapse the enemy and put more pressure on them without the additional 10,000 and they could not do it. we had to do to quench elite. what did that do? it evaporates more political will at home. the second problem is another handcuff. petraeus wants to keep the surge forces the president gave them, the 30,000, much launderette a higher level. they are all gone before the year is out. that is where we are at the point of your question. given those two have already happened, there is pressure on the commanders to stay on a schedule that transitions are combat forces totally and be out of there by 2014. in my judgment, what is happening to support that is far from condition-based is a date we're moving to and, by god, we're doing this. we should take the pressure off of them so they can come back and we can slow it back. >> nato forces are scheduled to withdraw in 2014 and they testify on the process of afghan se