and articulate because we see bright come mcclean articulate but people all the time and there is no novelty for us. but, part of it is the timing. i think voters even inner-city voters were sophisticated enough this time not to just dismiss that kind of approach from the get-go. part of it is timing because obama has not always initially been embraced by those particular voters so i do think it was at this point in time, but i do think we have to give some of the credit to him that somehow his charisma was able to persuade, sufficient to persuade people who before had not been persuaded in part of that is intangible. you can't really put your finger on it. until it happens. >> i wonder if part of it is, when you have someone and you see if there's a chance, it wasn't just a symbolic candidacy. there's a difference between the people who can aspire to the president. it is laudable to be a doctor or lawyer or even the old guy down the street but i think they were caught up in the frenzy as well, like weil a black president. >> how are you doing. i am a journalism student and i was won