that's partly mcclelland. lee almost dares him to attack the day after the battle and mcclelland makes the mistake and refuses. possibly could have destroyed lee's army on the spot, but there is -- and this is the importance of psychological factors and if you're going to defend lee the way gallagher does you'll put a heavier premium on these things that lee is able to build this culture of winning so he has to take risks and there are positive effects to this. as late as '64 the army of northern virginia will be an effective fighting force. but you wouldn't have built that culture of winning if you had done the fabian strategy that washington would have done, all right. because men aren't going -- yes, you can rationally explain it. mr. conners, you want to push back on that. >> culture of winning is as useful as it is, but even the army of the potomac, i think, the description of them is like a bulldog was's been whipped a lot, is used to getting whipped but will keep fighting and fight pretty hard. >> and w

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