mccloy's generosity. i made another reference somewhere i mixed up the names of -- he had reviewed my manuscript before it was published. it was he wrote "agreed." leading nazi official confirming the accuracy of the statement that i put in my book, and the proof the german industrialists were lying. he was in the best position of all to know. >> or their problems between the jewish survivors who were getting some kind of compensation, however little, and the non-jews in the international auschwitz committee because they were excluded? mr. ferencz: there were no real problems. we met on occasion, but the inmates were unaware of these negotiations taking place. in fact, when we distributed these problems, we found that inmates came to file claims when they did not work for the company or they did work for the company, not at a plant authorized to receive compensation. we had to engage on a voluntary basis, persons whom we knew had been there for a long time and form a screening committee. they would invite

mccloy. instead of that, he ordered four of them to be hanged, which he did not have to do, and he increased the sentences are many others. the man who was determined to win the fate of germany, either he is a fool to do that, or had other motives. i know, having seen him very frequently, that he was torn by i emotion,he had -- he never ordered someone to be hanged before. it was not an easy thing for him. the statements he made to the germans, and the pressure he put on the germans -- they paid more than they wanted to pay. >> [indiscernible] mr. ferencz: it is easy to criticize. it fits into a pattern. it is the manchester pattern, and should be examined in that light. it is a political opinion, not based on fact. mccloy has also been criticized lines. bombing the rail in whatt intrude on him i realize was a personal decision of what he alone had to make about the life and death of people. which i felt should not be the result of political pressure. theid, look, you realize jewish community

john mccloy is in the high commission of germany. mr. mccloy got on the phone with me. he is raising holy hell. he says you are doing much worse than the nazis. all she did was help her jewish friend. he is very distressed. mccloy, as a good lawyer you know well that the transaction in 1938 was a duress transaction and avoidable at the option of the person whose property was taken. mustrcise that option as i to require the transaction be rescinded. i'm sure it is with yours. he said i will call up the general and tell him. that is what happened. eventually we settled. we had this problem thousands of times again and again. wenot only took time, but are not getting the money we needed for these urgent tasks of saving lives. i decided to take another approach. and that was to try to sell these claims to the german government. global settlements. i went to the finance ministry and different german states. i said look, we have this problem, we are generating a lot of anti-semitism. we have to solve this problem. solve it isggest we reassigned the claims to you, so we are no

mccloy. report,ued a clemency which i will give to the holocaust museum, which i'm sure you will find in the archives, in which they confirmed three or four of the death sentences, commuted the rest, usually to life imprisonment, lowered the sentences on some defendant's. the only defendant against whom there had been a judgment of forfeiture of all of his assets was the multibillionaire. they gave him back all of his that., and that was that evoke a tremendous outcry from the nazi victims benjamin: as a result, mr. mccoy has not been in the good graces of either the nazi victims or the church organizations. i feel -- and i have given the documentation to the holocaust memorial museum or i will -- that he got a bad rap. he was unfairly judged. he was criticized, including in a book by william manchester -- which attacked him in a very harsh way, i think. for having released the german from prison and having given him is very sizable fortune. he was condemned as having that -- done this as an