joining us is msnbc legal analyst mary mccord, the form from the justice department and cohost of an amazing podcast. also with us is palm beach state attorney dave aronberg. perhaps we need to take the party to miami next time. >> right now here with mary in washington, and thank you for being here. if you can just do us sort of a scene setting for us about where the state of play in the cases are, my contention has been for some time that donald trump was going to use this system to effectively manipulate it into doing the jungle gym thing, jumping all over itself, and with the delay, delay, delay. in my estimation, tell me if i'm wrong, he's achieved that goal. looks like none of these cases are going to land anywhere near starting, let alone completing by the november presidential election? >> i mean it's an interesting strategy. he hasn't really won the motions. east basically lost on a lot of the arguments, but he's won on delay. he keeps slowing things down, and you know, i do still think there's a chance for one or two trials to start, but it's also quite possible they won't.

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and mary mccord forming acting assistant attorney general at the justice department. >> also the co-hostprosecuting donald trump and she is at msnbc legal analyst. welcome. >> so mary, kyle, it seems like the only accountability we're going to get for some of these other people who were in the trump world and allegedly orchestrated some of these election interference schemes is going to be through these professional disbarment procedures. what can we learn from these procedures and what are the kinds of findings that the judges are making here and what can they tell the american public about the events of january 6th and those who are alleged to have been responsible for them? >> well, you know, they don't have the fanfare of the criminal cases and the criminal trials we've been anticipating. but you know, in a way, these are the trials of what happened leading up to january 6th. the trial of donald trump's attempt to overturn the election. there's some -- there's some granular testimony happing in some of these cases where you are seeing people, you know, john eastman, for example, he s

code and many codes including any type of penetration with any part of the body. >> mary mccord, youake it make sense. it doesn't make sense, but you make it sound good. you make it simple to understand, and we always appreciate that. we didn't go to law school. >>> coming up, steve kornacki is at the big board as polls are now closing in the state of ohio, where we're following a very consequential race that could determine control of the united states senate in september. if you struggle with cpap... you should check out inspire. honey? inspire. sleep apnea innovation. learn more and view important safety information at inspiresleep.com ♪ upbeat music ♪ asthma. it can make you miss out on those epic hikes with friends. step back out there, with fasenra. fasenra is an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma that is taken once every 8 weeks. fasenra helps prevent asthma attacks. most patients did not have an attack in the first year. fasenra is proven to help you breathe better so you can get back to doing day-to-day activities. and fasenra helps lower the use of oral steroids. fase

has gotten less back then she couldn't afford to play tennis today. millions of fans won't general mccord her friend michael films, wherever she goes. when darcy swings the racket, she nets up to 9000000 view is on take token. instagram. everyone loves her backend . toes. is it to her dentist that to stay wherever? unfortunately it, at my arrival, there's a 98. i'm unable to try her. i did, i cannot just hit for a few minutes really. so now, but i, i play all summer. it's an inspiration. you know, i mean, i still play tournaments of 80, but now i'm thinking, well, i can go well into my night is nothing since i've had an unlikely influence. that age is no barrier. living her best life. taking social media by storing listen shop is off the game. once a week she has a head done and monica's cell phone. and she's a role model here to her a more than just like 40 or 50. so advanced with everything which is like amazing you dorothy originally drew her inspiration from caribbean sheets. back then she lived with her husband, the diplomats in the south were from i just want to be there from the fr

well, the latest statements by mccord and austin and the conversation of german generals, and they all say that the pro war party does not want to change its course district physically to feed russia on the battlefield them. but as we realize that of germany seems to be still in the state of shaw ca shocked. so i guess so over the fact that their secret got out as soon as this came out. so they'll official comments was no comments, and then german price was all over it. and as we're about to see from some of the headlines in german media, they are side things. several soldiers who are assuming the confirming that links to all the other confirming that it's itself and 6. and also what they did was there was a way to, to censorship, according to durham and media. because they started trying to book a several accounts that were sharing that link, the audio and the link transcript on x, formerly twitter. so that's what happened on friday as soon as this lead came out. and there were also claiming that drum and counter intelligence supposedly bridal way, wants to probe. and so this and now

politician states the peace negotiations with the create and can only be held on russia, stubs, jim mccord, somebody. and usually given the current public regime in ukraine, which was planted by western europe, i perfectly understand the population of ukraine. they are ready to agree by and large to do anything to stop the fighting so much. recently, both for administer lever off and the president of our country have repeatedly stated that we are ready to sit down at the negotiating table. but on russia's terms, there is no other option. the other candidate is lead slootsky spectra, right? there is the chairman of russian liberal democratic party at the politician chest, the state duma committee on into the option of the 5. as part of his election platform, he's focused on development of russia's new territories, as well as respecting citizens rights and providing social social guarantees. yes, the address if we described the russia of the future as we see that it will be a comfortable country where you can not worry about safety driving normal roads without traffic chance and not freeze a

meanwhile, 11 percent consider most going ally international consulting, l rasmussen, said president mccord's late to statements have left him at all with his own people . and since he has fairly okay, relationship of food and over the years, it's uh, it's interesting that it's shifted so far in this direction. his, his population does not support this at all with almost 2 thirds of 34 sit against us. so it's not improving his popularity was very much in the lower portions as it is. and it's my view, it's a very for statement. i know he's trying to double down on it and say that easily, lot through this. but it's clearly not strong thought through and it's barely poorly placed and definitely does not have the support of other nato members as well. so you're seeing a division within nato itself occurring here. very dangerous. um, uh, remarking and potential escalation, uh, as low as i like from taking you to india now where the tensions are running high in the countries. no, those local found those posts for a minimum support price full that crops they say they will keep protesting until all t

kimberly healthcare al jazeera, the white house power steering, and president mccord abbas is named mohammed. most of it has been you prime minister of the potter stating the thursday most about is 70 years old. he's a politician, i did call them this. and this, if you have to hold on in the occupied westbank, east of on the palestinian telecoms company, the pa, the sign investment fund for supports projects. and the protestant integrity is also a member of the palestine liberation organization. in 2014, he served as deputy prime minister, a leather committee tasked with rebuilding pods have gone up to israel's 7 week long bombardment muslims. wiley is the director of golf study center of the country university. he says the move will further disappoint palestinians. as i was reading the statement coming from them a lot about someone on the x platform says the color settings by the who, the advice to the new prime minister talks about development to kind of development and projects to kind of makes parties and the good, the person says we are an award and you spoke about this. so orderly, the

i'm want to reiterate how a possible, how likely is it the president put in may grant money on mccord's request. you think i to oh, i think that and so this is, i mean, president clinton has said many times that he was in favor of peace that he spoke about the assistance recruited time cats in 2014 and wouldn't read the russians. and a lot of the people outside of the, i would say the collective west understood what was going on, advocated for peace before this would escalate a. and i think again bruce and interviews are the president brings to that. he was open to peace, but you have to be to, to negotiate. and unfortunately, i was a broker is behind as an skin today. and ukraine are from nato, there at madison countries. and they're not showing a lot of signs of goodwill. we have seen in fighting between them when michael said that he wanted to send a soldiers on the ground. and we did see that that was some sort of red line for other nato countries. but i think at one moment or another, we would have to have people from the west already funding can use made and funding the ukraine be

joining me now mary mccord, former justice department official and co-host of the podcast "prosecuting donald trump." i find his hard to follow. she has second degree both sides to come up with i don't know draft jury questions or instructions about matters relating to donald trump's claim. i don't know that happens or doesn't happen much in law and order. help us make sense of it. >> judges do ask lawyers for proposed jury instructions. they don't do that many, many months before a trial not even scheduled that. oftentimes they'll do that in the midst of trial, they'll ask the parties given how the evidence has come out to propose jury instructions. this isn't even about the real proposed jury instructions. this is like an exercise she's putting the government and mr. trump's attorneys to, which is like hypothesize with me here, these two competing scenarios, neither of which has any basis in law but do make us wonder if she isn't trying to push decisions she should be making legal decisions she should be making right for you, push those to a time of a jury and asking things like shou

and marry mccord.neral. >> and she is cohost of a wonderful podcast prosecuting donald trump and an msnbc legal analyst. welcome. >> so, mary, kyle, it seems like the only accountability we are going to get for some of these other people who are in the trump world and allegedly orchestrated some of these election interference schemes is going to be through these professional disbarment procedures. what can we learn from these procedures, what are the findings judges are making here and what can they tell the american public about january 6th? >> they don't have the fanfare of the criminal cases but in a way, these are the trials of what happened leading up to january 6th, the trial of donald trump's attempt to overturn the election. there is some granular testimony happening in these cases where you are seeing people. john eastman for example. months of testimony putting his theory through the ringer. testing them. testing his claims of fraud. down to the very specific minutia of them and picking them

thank you so much, betsey woodruff swan, mary mccord. >>> when we come back the new cochair of the rncin the rearview mirror, a thing of the past. news flash to laura trump that is not what her father-in-law is saying on the stump every day. brand new reporting from inside the rnc suggests they're looking to fill the party with staffers who are election deniers. that reporting is next. >>> and we are expecting a live briefing from maryland officials on the search and recovery efforts after that bridge tragedy in baltimore. we'll bring that to you when it happens. "deadline white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. before they even start. it's the #1 prescribed branded chronic migraine treatment. so far, more than 5 million botox® treatments have been given to over eight hundred and fifty thousand chronic migraine patients. effects of botox® may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness

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in to address the point about the erie mccord's and it's failure or success is just strange, credulity. to say that everything that's happened in the middle east or where everything that's not working in the middle east is true biden's fault. just it is the early american exceptions way of looking at it. not that we are deeply involved, but it's wildly unrealistic to say that all right, we, we unfortunately have to use the response. i didn't respond please. yeah, go ahead and respond. we don't have a lot of time left. going to get in either of my co panelists address the issue of a ron or ronald is the one that is being rolling, but who teasing young man has the law and him off. the entire conflict started because of ron. and until we addressed that elephant in the room, which joe biden has been an utter weak person, donald trump was the one who showed strength against a ron. he could increase the sanctions. that is why you did not have this level of blood sugar in the middle east under donald trump. that's how the dominos fell. and so i'm sorry, but that's the elephant, but no one's a

particular its ability to monitor mccord blessed exposures for military personnel. only a few hundred soldiers and marines were fitted with wearable devices that seem to suffer from quality control issues. while the departments report does say itt may be feasible to record blast exposure information servicemembers medical records is required to determine the way forward. in this hearing is like to learn more about how the department plans to conduct its business case analysis. this important issue up with the department is committed to getting this right and i believe the tbi center of excellence health initiatives arecellent initiatives that i hope will provide an military with information needed to better understand the effects of repetitive blast exposure. we must remember exposure to low-level blast could create an unnecessary risk or combat troops. we can do better but you better quantify the type of blast that could cause signature -- significant perhaps run it entry and we can make better decisions about how best to accomplish that particular mission. i want

and i said as we passed mccord to go to the floor to die in veto senator schumer, senator mcconnell, it's the house doing? not that much. a society that cannot takes care of our their children or refuses to has a bleak future so thank you for doing this. >> thank you, senator graham. center blackburn? what's thank you, mr. chairman thank you so much thank you for the time you have given. center blumenthal staff, my staff, for being so open when you met with center blumenthal and i last week. i really appreciate this. as a center blumenthal said and we have worked on this for years. he built the time line outgoing to 2021. but the work we were doing looking at big tech and looking at some of the problems, the lack of privacy. the frustration of people not being able to control who had access to their virtual you is what led us to this point to begin to look at what's happened to our children. and as i told you in our meeting, the day we had that first hearing looking at what was happening online with children it was like the floodgates opened we started hearing from moms and dads not

assistant attorney general for national security at the justice department and legal analyst mary mccord. the decision to review mr. trump's claim of presidential immunity has threaten to push the trial deep into the campaign season or beyond raising the possibility that voters will make their choice between mr. president trump and president biden without guilt or innocence being established has resurfaced a question, that long dogged mr. garland, what took so long. andrew, can you answer that, spablely after reading this piece? >> no, i can't. but i think what the way, when i read this piece, i sort of had several reactions. first, i do think it is important that people realize that the truth here is not probably black and white. in other words, it is not possible to say that the department of justice did nothing, for one, they prosecuted hundreds of people at the ground level and slightly above that. because the oath keepers and the proud boys were difficult and righteous cases. and they also did open some investigative avenues and were exploring certain things prior to the january 6 h

happens inside the -- how did we get to this point where something that bill barr and others, mary mccord everyone who p ever touched classified materials part of investigating mishandling says open and shut. open and shut case. so easy and nobody thinks the tried will be happening? >> i think nicolle, one, absolutely agree with you. it is open and shut. it is by far and away over the course of over a 20-year career one of the most egregious and straightforward mishandling of classified information in obstruction cases i've ever seen. having said that, spent that same amount of time dealing with the federal court system with, our system of justice it is designed to protect the accused and if you have somebody who's talented and donald trump has spent his entire career wielding the judicial system as hi weapon and his shield. if you have somebody talented and wants to delay our system of justice is unfortunately vulnerable to being abused by somebody like that. so it is frustrating. i share that frustration. end of the day all this does is reinforce, much like everybody watching special co

former assistant acting attorney general at the justice department and msnbc legal analyst mary mccord. and special correspondent for vanity fair our friend molly jonfast is back. tim miller, it should not fall to the family of brian sicknick to speak out on trump's hypocrisy. it should not fall to families -- it shouldn't fall to the judge ester solace to speak out to safety and lack of security for federal judges. it shouldn't fall to people who have already lost so much to try to wake us up from stumbling into stupid things in our politics, but that is precisely where we are and what i read. >> it's hard to add what mr. sicknick said, to what sergeant guinell said. he has a book if folks want to go out and support him. the gall of people, nicolle, and the gall of donald trump we're used to this. it's an old story. shameless, do things for any political advantage. he'll use the police officer's wake to try to attack his opponents. you know, he did not -- not only did he attend brian sicknick's funeral, but he blocked the capitol from -- excuse me, the white house from putting the fla

assistant attorney general for national security at the justice department and msnbc legal analyst mary mccordh's paper tells us most of what we know and from his paper and filings, he seems to be calling bs on all of trump's moves and arguments. is that a fair read? >> i think in legal terms that's what he's doing but using different verbiage and it had to be said. i mean, some of these motions, the motion to dismiss based on presidential immunity is based on an argument that mr. trump while he was president designated all of these classified documents as personal and, therefore, that was within the scope of his official acts that he should have immunity for. so you don't even have to get to the question, says jack smith, of whether a president, a former president is ever immune from criminal prosecution for official acts because it's ludicrous to think that what he's charged with here was part of his official act. he's charged with retaining classified information, not classified information, national defense information, which most of classified information falls within, retaining that when

well, the latest statements by mccord in austin and the conversation of german generals and they all say that the pro war party does not want to change its course district physically to feed russia on the battlefield them. but as we realize that of germany seems to be still in the state of shaw ca shocked. so i guess so over the fact that their secret got out as soon as this came out. so the official comments was no comments and then german price was all over it. and as we're about to see from some of the headlines in german media, they are side things. several soldiers who are assuming the confirming that links to all the other confirming that it's itself and 6. and also what they did was there was a way to to satisfy ship according to durham and media. because they started trying to book a several accounts that were sharing that link, the audio and the link transcript on x, formerly twitter. so that's what happened on friday. as soon as this lead came out, and there were also claiming that german counter intelligence supposedly bridal way, wants to probe. and so this and now we fin