and we can see that in the kind of wilma reception that mccord is like, do you think you're shooting, paying, for example, taking she to a parent needs that location of the birthplace of has a maternal grandmother tomorrow. so we're going to see that kind of disunity that i know about questioning, where you are, the, how that you should deal with china, even in how much one is dealing with shooting, paying right, and how is this visit being seen in taiwan? i mean, especially since problems as distance itself from the us position on the taiwan issue to deal with. i'm really all stem from a, an incident you give environment calling about a year ago with political, the following a visit to badging in that seems to view, he again reiterate to this position has become quite a common refrain of his now that's your option. simply kind of blindly follow the u . s. and it's more hard line approach to china. and when it comes to taiwan, specifically, he said the europe shouldn't quote answering to crises, but the notes are over its own and essentially, and so when it comes to the question of ta

did you ever talk to mccord liddy? no, sir. i see. senator and i always return now. and i asked my time. if i may, i'll ask one more question before i yield and in all those tapes has gotten to be pretty celebrated affair. yes, sir, i understand that. and you understand that. i made the motion to institute litigation, to test the privilege of the president, to withhold that information from us. and then i feel very strongly about that subject. and as i've indicated earlier, i thank my concern in that respect. is heightened by your testimony and your reference to portions of that tape. i also will remark parents quickly to mr. wilson that i gazed deep into his eyes and couldn't, divined quite what was going on, and i still cannot. i want to continue to tantalizing with that level. but what i want to point out to you is that one statement and you're seems to me to be of extraordinary importance. and i want to test the accuracy of your recollection and the quality of your note taking from those tapes and referring to the last to the next to the last. no, the third in th

catherine christian on set with me, former prosecutor david henderson and former doj official, mary mccordter, explain why hope hicks is so critical to the time line and the prosecution's case potentially. >> reporter: let's start with the fact that hope hicks is about as close to donald trump as any member of his own family. she was in effect a daughter to donald trump for her time working on the campaign and then here at white house. she said at the top of her testimony she hasn't been in direct contact with him since about 2022, since leaving the white house. she's been engaged. she has a pr company as well working independently. she's critical to the testimony today because she was effectively at donald trump's side for the entirety of the campaign, traveling with him at times when the campaign barely existed, when it was just the two of them. then in the white house, she was one of the most trusted confidantes as well. the reason the president trusted her is because she is someone who is not believed to have any agenda. her advice was just the advice in the former president's best int

did you ever talk to mccord liddy? no, sir. i see. senator and i always return now. and i asked my time. if i may, i'll ask one more question before i yield and in all those tapes has gotten to be pretty celebrated affair. yes, sir, i understand that. and you understand that. i made the motion to institute litigation, to test the privilege of the president, to withhold that information from us. and then i feel very strongly about that subject. and as i've indicated earlier, i thank my concern in that respect. is heightened by your testimony and your reference to portions of that tape. i also will remark parents quickly to mr. wilson that i gazed deep into his eyes and couldn't, divined quite what was going on, and i still cannot. i want to continue to tantalizing with that level. but what i want to point out to you is that one statement and you're seems to me to be of extraordinary importance. and i want to test the accuracy of your recollection and the quality of your note taking from those tapes and referring to the last to the next to the last. no, the third in th

mary mccord, the farmer acting assistant general, lisa rubin an msnbc correspondent. all of them have been following this trial closely and they join me now. you've been there almost every day. >> every day. >> sorry, i didn't mean to cut you short there. a meticulous and organized storyteller that's my definition reading and hearing intranscript from the opening statement. >> i think josh steinglass is going to put together all the different crinology. and we've seen the data from disparate sources, everything from phone record providers to the trump organization itself. so i expect josh steinglass is going to take the jury through how the conspiracy was formed, how we know donald trump himself was not only a part of that conspiracy in a broad sense but okayed the payment to stormy daniels. and then moving onto the period in which he was president, how wee know that he okayed the repayment scheme allen weisselberg and michael cohen came up with and executed the checks nine of them personally to michael cohen in that period. then they're going to take us to the period

mary mccord is director of georgetown university's institute for constitutional advocacy and protections also a former justice department official. mary, so good to have you back on the program. do you think this is a fair accusation that the principal reason that this case is now likely not going to ever get tried before this election is because of the judge? and if so, what is your evidence for that? william: it is -- mary: i would say it is a combination by the delay strategy by mr. trump and his codefendants and a judge that has accommodated that strategy and actually allowed that strategy to be successful. i mean, she is also a judge that lacks experience handling a case that involves classified information. that doesn't add a layer of complexity to a case because there is a procedure actually under the law called the classified information procedures act for adjudicating how you are going to deal with classified information in a case like this. what needs to be produced to the defendants, what the defendants can use at trial. there is a procedure for all of that that does add to c

the jury will do what the jury does. >> andrew weissmann and mary mccord, thank you both. really appreciate it. >>> coming up, a major embarrassment for marjorie taylor greene. why democrats did something they haven't done before. they stepped in to save the republican speaker. that's next. er. that's next. and could reactivate. shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. and it could wake at any time. think you're not at risk for shingles? it's time to wake up. because shingles could wake up in you. if you're over 50, talk to your doctor or pharmacist about shingles prevention. (psst! psst!) ahhh! with flonase, allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily gives you long lasting non-drowsy relief. flonase all good. also, try our allergy headache and nighttime pills. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. shop etsy until may 12th for o

still with me, lisa rubin, george conway and mary mccord.an't imagine how many times you get asked this question, like why haven't they put him in jail? but prosecutors don't want that right now, why not? >> they said two things. one, he had not been warned yet by judge merchan on tuesday that the next consequence might be jail at the time they moved to hold him in contempt. so really, that would not necessarily change what the judge could do, because there is a statute that says what the judge can do. it says you can be given $1000 per incident or incarcerated for 30 days, but i think the prosecutor is saying he was not really on notice. this was his last chance. the other thing he said was it is very disruptive and we're trying not to be so disruptive. to be honest i think what they also think is this would make donald trump more of a martyr. >> that is what i was wondering, if they were thinking that, if that is the calculus for the prosecutors. >> i think they have to be thinking that. on one hand donald trump does not want to spend a ni

. >> mary mccord, this is a pretty powerful way to take the lunch break on a friday. >> it absolutely is. it is going to be a slightly early adjournment today at 3:45, but that still gives them a couple of hours after luchlk. i think we'll hear a lot more. defense is going to hope they can get to cross examination. i'm not sure that's going to happen today. >> thanks to you, mary mccord, to catherine christian, vaughn hillyard, peter alexander, david henderson, and victoria defrancesco soto and of course ashley parker, thanks to all, an extraordinary friday. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ >>> good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. hope hicks on the stand, just moments ago asked when she first heard the name stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, two women at the heart of this case. and for the last 90 minutes or so, hicks has been telling her story under oath just feet away from her old boss donald trump. will her testimony connect the dots for the prosecution in his hush mon

states and a bad wind is blowing in europe. ports of warning from french president and my new ed mccord speak.

there's a lot of press events and that's really disruptive, given that president emanuel mccord is keen to cover some meaty issues, particularly on the economy. and the trade disputes that you and france has with china. and also china's role in influencing russia in russia's conflict with ukraine. and the 2 countries also brought up of the middle east of talked about wanting to see peace there. although of course a china and france has limited of influence in that conflict, right? this moment president, she is next in serbia, and then he goes to hungry, finishing his 3 country trip to europe. eliza jenn, i'll just 0 parents ukraine, stage security services. it's foiled. an assassination attempt on president voting means that lensky and other top military and political figures. he says it has retained to ukraine and security officials. it says we're trying to cancel, then schools locate accuses russia spies, agency of being behind the find. the crime says it's foiled. at least 10 attempts to assassinate the president. since russia invaded in 2022. as for the respect and russian president

so the situation in new caledonia seems to be spiraling out of control so much so that mccord himself is flying over to the pacific archipelago. can you put it as more on the situation, please? yeah, of course. as you mentioned, the french president, in my, on my call is now heading out to the french overseas territory, new caledonia, and mid the worst, and rest of the territory has seen in over 30 years. now of course, this is probably in hopes to calm the situation down, but it's really important that hundreds more of security personnel is going to be joining the reinforcements on the ground. but just to remind you of what happened essentially here france has launched this major operation after protest that erupt to a little over a week ago, turned violent. now the, the, these comes, these come after the, the, the election reform that the french government pushed on to the territory, the indigenous, conic active as so essentially unhappy with the constitutional reform as it says that it would be given the right to people that moved there after 1998 the right to vote in the local ele

and i don't think it's going to be successful here. >> mary mccord, the verbal sort of -- whatever thel assault. it was did you say you bought a ranch, i didn't say i bought it, i said i paid for it, i paid rent for it. susan necklace went after her credibility in saying she had gone to his room for dinner. she obviously thought they were going to leave the room. she told donald trump to, quote, get dressed. was it too much, or is it -- is it just burn it all down if you're a defense lawyer on cross? >> this is where it's hard for i think us to assess when we're looking at the black and white transcript because these -- there's a cadence to cross-examination, there's how did the witness actually deliver responses, were there hesitations or pauses, was there immediate responses? you know, when i'm in the courtroom, i'm looking to see how is the jury reacting. when i was sitting at the prosecutor's table and the defense counsel was cross examining one of my witnesses. we don't get any of that from the cold record. i think it's a little hard to tell whether even to kristy's point whether

we understand that the french president's a menu mccord has been quite vocal entitlements and suggesting that she may be interested in sending troops to ukraine. this is where the slovak leader essentially says that they know does not have jurisdiction in ukraine, considering ukraine is not a nato member states. essentially continuing to focus on its neutrality, focusing on a sovereign form policy that is not in line with the group and block for the most part. but we're also looking at is of course, the disparity and political alliances as well. we understand that since he took office and 2023, he's had a little bit more of a traditional role. some a role that has been far from the policies that have been pushed by brussels. and this has been a matter of concern for, of course lock you, but brussels and the european block as a whole. but we understand that this very given moment is that these statements provided by the slovak foreign minister, resonates throughout the country more so today than ever less lenders to the year of the stock and say, okay, and i, it will lock you his other an

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beginning to per, nobody's, they understand more more about or are we not to less fate and the imaging mccord like overall wisdom the just been don't know, what to do more to, to steal up your us credit or andrew, are the wave of filed is to increase or the, you're ok, she's not chief like crew putting troops on the wrong, the beating the size or hitching your territory of russia or vote from the french fun of you, your good or so these are in town or the debates in france we be a mixed and said europe and part of an approaching wherever the policy got bought. you'll be money. good. and my girl is very, is going to lose the bought her because or how somebody on the bonus ronada these main or position be so we still about they're not on dying looking. uh is no, but dollar dollars votes expected from the bought to you have made money very much . so he mentioned about who would like to reinforce of these narrative of being very strongly international say don't pay very many. well, let me ask the question, do young uh french soldiers want to go fight in ukraine? apparently they're already there.

mccord . secretary austin, while i am glad that we were able to pass the national security supplemental, i think all of us were relieved that that happened, what we have seen is that russia's industrial base has been able to increase production in part due to sanctions, in part because they're getting assistance from the pubic peoples republic of china and we know that -- those are the same drones that they are using in the middle east to kill american servicemembers and attack us so, can you talk a little bit about how the administration is seeking to limit industrial base cooperation between russia and china and what, in this budget, will help us do that? >> we certainly have raised this issue in the right channels, senator, and you are right. prior to, at one point, russia had experienced significant losses because of the work that ukraine and its forces was doing. they had inflicted significant casualties on the russian forces, destroyed a significant amount of its equipment, and so to you

mary mccord served as federal prosecutor for the u.s. attorney's office in d.c. as chief of criminal division and they host together the award winning podcast "prosecuting donald trump" if you're following all this. great to have you both. here's the conundrum as i see it which is trump's view of all this stuff is incredibly cynical. he has the authoritarian view. the laws are nonsense, no such thing as good faith. you tell me who the judge is and i'll tell you the outcome. i don't want to mirror that rule. so when he says of course, this judge merchan is ruling against me. he's a hack. i really want to bend over backwards to avoid that because i don't have that view and i do think good faith is a real thing and i think the law actually operates. am i wrong to be really unnerved by the actions of judge cannon? >> no, you're not. by the way, that phrase you quoted that donald trump says came from roy connolly. >> show me the judge. i'll show you the outcome. >> that essentially no one has principles, that you're not a nation of laws. you're a nations of men and wo

i have mary mccord, the former acting assistant attorney for the justice department and glenn kirshnera former federal prosecutor, lisa rubin is a legal constituent. all of them have been following this trial very, very closely and they join me now. so lisa, i'll start with you. you've been in the courtroom and almost every day. maybe every day. you've been -- >> every day. >> every day. i'm sorry, i didn't mean to cut you short there. we know the judge is meticulous and organized storyteller and reading the transcript from the opening statement. what do you expect in terms of what he'll say and how it will be structured tomorrow. >> i think josh stein glass is going to put together a chronology from all of the desperate pieces that we've seen so far. and we have seen testimony from so many different people and data and other documents from different sources. everything from phone records providers to the trump organization itself. as though i expect that josh steinglass is going to take the jury through and talk about the conspiracy was formed and how donald trump was a part of the co

joining us, mary mccord, paul butler, former federal prosecutor, and barbara mcquade.ck with us as well. let's start with you, vaughn. what's the latest out of the courtroom? >> reporter: there's another paralegal from the district attorney's office who is being used to enter records in before this jury. one of the phone calls that was acknowledged here and a reason why the prosecution would bring this individual forward to openly discuss these records was one particular phone call that interrupted an audio recording, or we believe -- or the prosecution contends interrupted the audio recording taken by michael cohen when he was with donald trump ahead of the 2016 election, that september. folks will recall he and donald trump -- it sounded as if they were talking about the karen mcdougal payment of $150,000 being executed before the call suddenly got cut off. there were questions about whether he edited it, deleted the back half of it. what this phone record here that is being admitted into evidence shows is that potentially there was an incoming phone call that would

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