can you give -- >> the influence of otis chandler, the influence of the colonel mccormick to set the tone from the publishers perspective. estimate how we do that at the chicago -- >> it's your values. part of the reasons the people that you mentioned chandler and mccormick and the people that gave the tribune, made the tribune a great newspaper is that they had strong journalistic values and they believe in the journalism and i think that it's we kind of got out of fashion that journalists should be in charge of the business operations and be involved in it. we have a law to protect us and we would remain pure and would never do that. i think that has to change and i think that journalists have to assume the business responsibilities that we didn't do for a long time and kind of figure this out because i think what might said the lives talking about before. it has to be based the public respect for you and your values and the institutions that you run so you have to really be strong and racist and i think that it will be easier in an organization like the chicago is cooperative can

mark mccormick, we haven't talked about him too much. mark was great and we had differences. but he was great for me because he taught me something about business and about the world. and the other people, the doc giffins, the people i'm associated with in life and in business, what they've contributed just to me mentally in my life is something that i could never thank them enough for. >> charlie: thank you for allowing us to come here. >> thank you charlie. >> charlie: pleasure. >> i tell you what, i don't play golf very much anymore but if you find your time you come here and we'll try latrobe country club. >> charlie: you have made my day. thank you. >> very good. >> charlie: thank you very much. >> thank you. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org

i want to thank president mccormick of rutgers. rutgers, when we called, stepped up immediately. not only are they providing shelter to the folks, but they also have been providing food to them even before the american red cross or the state could get food and water there. rutgers stepped up with the supplies of food and water they have and were distributing at no cost to the shelterees, food and beverages to keep them feeling good. we have cots available at both rutgers sites and the manon sites. these are places they'll be able to be much more comfortable. they had a rough night, be able to take a nap and relax and somewhere safe and dry to be able to ride out the storm. we're -- the lieutenant governor went this morning to the sun center before folks left. about 500 people remaining, which he went to visit this morning, getting ready to board their buses to another shelter. had the opportunity to interact with a number of the shelterees who were there. and to express on my behalf and behalf of the state government our concern for them. and to hear any input they had about how

agnew deliberately flip it on its head identifying instead of the publisher, the guy like colonel mccormickcago, the problem with journalism for the professionals, the problem was with professionals, these people that have irritated the power of the publisher to themselves and their little, you know, clich, their little clique of professional writers or whatever it is. and are making his decisions for the entire country and what is funny is that as that has become less control over the years and now you have fox news and the a.m. talk-radio that's almost completely conservative with an exception here and there. as this has become a less and less valid description of the media environment we live in it is now everywhere. the critic is everywhere now as it has become less true. it's a fascinating story.wpíú >> would you join the strike --x >> i'm going to defer toqp jessica's comment on that.súypwp but i do want to see somethingsp pressink.org. understand the issues going on and there is the partisan backbiting. ties. do that. but in d.c. that's what people do i find. and so, you know, when y

deliberately flip it on its head identifying instead of, you know, the publisher, a guy like colonel mccormick journalism was the professionals, the problem with professionalism, these people who have variegated the power of the publisher to themselves in their little black of professional writers or whenever it is and are making news decisions for the entire country. what's funny is as that has become less true over the years. fox news, a in talk radio. almost completely conservative with an exception here and there. as this has become less and less valid as a description of the media environment we live in, it is not everywhere. the liberal media bias is everywhere as it has become less true. a fascinating story. >> well, i am going to defer to jesse's comment. i do want to say something aboup this idea, this interest.zpzp and i think there is really gooú about is not so allows people to understand the i just moved here from l.a. and parties. you just don't do that. in d.c. that is what people do, i find. and. [laughter] that talks about journalism it instead of having a he said she objectiv