up to 40,000 more is what general mccrhrystal is said to want. the president says he will ask, will be wiped out al qaeda? >> my overriding goal is to dismantle the al qaeda network. >> 68,000 troops are in afghanistan now, almost one- third on barack obama's order. the pentagon is committed to this mission. >> if the world is committed to this, it will require us to something -- will acquire us excepting additional responsibility. >> many civilians have been killed. taliban fighters are regrouping and claims of fraud hang over the elections. could an iraqi-style surge help? >> i don't think there is support for sending more troops to afghanistan. >> today, the president will hear from the nato secretary- general to send military trainers. >> they will have a different mission, to train the afghan security forces. >> in a war obama has long called necessary. >> what the president says is also necessary is a revised four strategy is bound to deepen his responsibility. -- a revised war strategy. a decision is still weeks away. >> lance corporal jor

i have asked this question to general petraeus and general mccrhrystal this is not a country that hasional army. it is a country with a lot of national pride, but the best i can see is at one period in the late 1900's there was a national army of 90,000. with the police it was 250,000. at what point does our presence reach a tipping point was counterproductive, where people believe we are an occupying force, and then can we actually do the other piece of this in terms of the history of the country? dr. la carte -- dr. lockhart, i would like to get your views on that as a starting point. starting point. >> i do believe there is potentially a point at which presence may be counterproductive. but i don't believe we've reached that yet i think the only way that can be tested and ascertained is through polling and observation of the population. i believe, like dr. husseini is why there is a criticism, they're very much in the minority. the majority of the population seeks very much and hopes very much that the u.s. commitment remains and the international partnership remains for the long-t