mayor mccrory joins us now from charlotte.nd also with us keith boykin editor of "the daily voice" and cnbc contributor. mayor mccrory, let me start with you. you're critical of the stimulus plan. you say it doesn't offer permanent help. what do you mean? what's the problem with it? >> two things. first of all, it was sold as spending a lot of money on infrastructure. and in fact less than 15% of the money is being spent on infrastructure and most of the infrastructure that the mayors and governors have to spend it on is what they call shovel-ready. and that means it's going to be short-term projects. many of them are like repaving roads, which the new politically correct term is renourishing roads to make it sounds like we're doing more -- >> but by shovel ready meant it was immediate, right? we wanted people working immediately. >> yeah, but what we need are jobs that have long-term ramifications, where you hire engineers, where you hire architects, where you hire planners. instead we're really putting it toward projects whi