mcculloch when he gave his long soliloquy. it certainly points to the fact that that level of jof force wa not justied. it's because he came upon two young men who he didn't value as human beings. >> early this morning, police found the body of a man inside a parked car near the cramfield apartments where mike brown was shot and killed. sai st. louis county police will not identify the man who has died. it turns out he was a good friend of dorian johnson. >> you found out about bob mcculloch last night. and then a few hours later, your friend was killed and you found out about this this morning? >> yes, it was tragic. he was a good kid, man. it's a trial jud ee's tragedy w him. i just want to get the opportunity to say thank you for letting me talk about him. we're all up here, dandre and we love you. support him, too. we've got to stapd up for something better. >> dorian, thank you very much and i'm sorry about your friend. >>> all right, something bob mcculloch said yesterday really stuck with me. i wanted to talk to someone

mcculloch today.e told me the timeline of the announcement and said the only thing i won't tell you is what is the verdict at this point. i said i understand and i wouldn't ask. i understand your question and the reasoning. but you know, with the way we have a grand jury process in this country, i don't think that's appropriate. >> chief, how do you respond to business owners sitting at home right now the watching their businesses burn to the ground? >> i'll tell you that captain johnson and i and sam an dodson have spent countless and countless hours engaging this community. we've talked to the don't shoot coalition. we've spoken to the lost voices, other groups. we've been at meetings mondays after mondays after mondays. some were productive. some weren't. we've met with our clergy. we not only were engaged but we did everything we could to prevent this in what is a very dangerous environment for everybody to include the proet testers and police officers. >> what you do tomorrow to prevent this from

jay nixon has a constituency, bob mcculloch has a constituency. they're both prosecutors, actually jay nixon was -- >> right, and your point, chris, we're continuing now to review the brand new released information by this prosecutor's office, as we reported, somewhat unusual release but our investigations unit is going through that. we'll continue to report on that tonight, including brand new first-time release of officer wilson's testimony here, which we now know obviously had some major impact on these grand jurors, craig melvin on the ground now, can you hear me? >> i hear you ufine. i'm going to show you the scene here. again, thissing right in front of the ferguson police department. you see what you have -- tactical vehicles separating what i say maybe 70, 80 protesters, separating those folks from the military style vehicles separating them from the officers. as you can probably see here are now in full riot gear. >>> for anybody standing in the street -- >> you can probably hear the warning as well. the warning to disperse. the commander

let's just -- bob mcculloch right there, robert mcculloch. let's listen in. >> good evening. thanks for your patience. i'm a little late getting up here, so i have a statement at the very beginning here, then we'll be happy to answer some questions when we're finished with that. first and foremost, i'd like to again extend my deepest sympathies to the family of michael brown. i've said in the past, i know that, regardless of the circumstances here, they lost a loved one to violence. and i know that the pain that accompanies such a loss knows no bounds. on august 9th, michael brown was shot and killed by police officer darren wilson. within minutes various accounts of the incident began appearing on social media. accounts filled with speculation and little if any solid, accurate information. almost immediately neighbors began gathering and anger began growing because of the various descriptions of what had happened and because of the underlying tension between the police department and the significant part of the neighborhood. the st. louis county police conducted an extensive

at the time mcculloch called them bums and mcculloch refused to file charges.s been re-elected every term since he took office in 1991 as a democrat. but that is the history that fuels the prosecutor's most vocal critics. >> bob mcculloch has shown in the past he is not sensitive to the african-american community. >> reporter: but even with the grand jury decision now behind him, robert mcculloch still has many naysayers questioning how the evidence was laid out and exactly why he decided to make the announcement late in the evening, when protests were more likely to get out of hand. ed laugh end era, cnn, furg, missouri. >>> and some breaking news we had in. we have confirmed an ar-15 rifle stolen from one of the st. louis police cruisers that was torched, that it has been stolen and they are looking for its whereabouts. we'll update you as we get more on that story. and again an ar-15 a significant rifle into this nation's conscious giving the so many shootings. and first, your response to the ar-15 missing, that is an awful thing to hear. >> the last thing w

local time, 9:00 eastern time announcement that was coming from bob mcculloch? you want to be a part of the community when this was announced? >> actually, i was at the nbc -- we call it the nbc compound, nbc compound when filming happened and had to go inside once there was gunfire that secured demanded we go inside. i was pretty much inside for a large part of the evening for safety reasons and i could see things being set on fire. i could hear people running around outside. it became a very dangerous situation quickly. and it's been my call for about a week and a half now telling people that i think tonight these protesters need to stay home because i think it's going to be just too dangerous. >> as a committee woman on the ferguson township and as you talk about the protesters who have been there over 100 days and there have been peaceful demonstrations, with that recommendation of you saying that they should stay home and giving that advice ahead of time, how was that received? >> i mean, there were still people who were determined to be out. and for the in

and then also, we also have to analyze what bob mcculloch does from a pr perspective.e has been in the position of arguing this case through pr. we're going to leak this information. that way, we will get the papers to announce and to talk about the things that we have leaked to the paper and argue our case on our behalf. we're going -- and i have a thought about why this particular prosecutor chose this particular time to make this announcement. in terms of pr, it's to his benefit if he makes this announcement late at night and people respond negatively, because he doesn't have to take the hit for that and he can say, i told you so, we were right and they're wrong. so, in pr -- with respect to pr, it's beneficial to the campaign that bob mcculloch has been launching and engaged in from jump. >> so, on that point, and then i want to bring craig back in, but drilling down deeper on that, some of the new materials we have just in the last hour is the august 10th testimony from darren wilson. and what is striking -- and we are still making our way through some of this, bu

and i'm quite sure bob mcculloch knew that wasn't going to happen. he certainly informed darren wilson's family. so they knew this was going to be the outcome. why wait till late at night -- >> we have a report that darin wilson last week was shopping for a network television interviewer which you would only be doing knowing that you're not a criminal defendant. >> and getting married. >> which one of these do i want to tell my big story. >> if i'm just doing the public policy bit, i'm going to ask myself, am i going to close school for two days so we deinstitutionalize the teenagers. then i'm going to make the announcement at 8:00 when those who are devoted to despair, there are people crying in that crowd. and this 30-minute epic statement is over, which tells you nothing, which gives you nothing. after that's over you have two choices. can you go home and be despairing in your house or stay outside and be angry. they deliberately left themselves with the people most committed to despair. that's an entirely predictable result of the way this was do

plain and simple. >> would that change the way that you feel about mcculloch? about the structures here? >> i don't know if it would change my confidence. it w it would send a message that people on this groond e graand r see something that should not have took place. i don't know how much confidence that would put in the criminal justice system. he's completely not the person that should be taking care of this right now. ras ra rasheen, you are on this new panel? what do yosee coming out of it? >> i'm not sure what's going to come out of it. i feel like if he really wanted to get some type of change or a really wanted to hear voices of the people, there would definitely be more young folks on this commission. let's speak, once again, 108 days young people have been out here peacefully protesting. i hope that i'll have the chance to talk to as many young people as possible in what is the concerns that we have. we're tired of being treated like we're not human. we're tired of being harassed. it has to change. we cannot have another michael brown. we cannot have

western this announcement by simple prosecuting attorney, bob mcculloch. >> they determined no probable cause exist to file charges against darren wilson and returned no true bill on each of the five indictments. the scientific evidence examined by the grand jury supported by witness statements tells the accurate and tragic story of what happened. >> shortly thereafter president obama called for peace. >> first and foremost we are a nation built on the rule of law. so we need to accept that this decision was the grand jury's to make. there are americans who agree with it. there are americans who are decently disappointed even angry. it's an understandable reaction. but i join michael's parents in asking anyone who protests this decision to do so peacefully. we need to recognize that this is not just an issue for ferguson, this is an issue for america. we have made enormous progress in race relations over the course of the past several decades. i have witnessed that in my own life, and to deny that progress, i think, is to deny america's capacity for change. but what is also true is that

at the time, mcculloch called the victims bums. grand jury didn't indict the evers and mcculloch refused to file charges. despite the tide of recent negativity, he's been re-elected every term since he first took office in 1991 as a democrat. but that's the history that fuels the prosecutor's most vocal critics. >> bob mcculloch has shown in the past he's not sensitive to the african-american community. >> [ bleep ]. >> but even with the grand jury decision now hin him, robert mcculloch still has many naysay naysayer, questioning how the evidence was laid out and exactly why he decided to make the announcement late in the evening, when protests were more likely to get out of hand. >>> and we are still connecting with our many teams on the ground there in ferguson, missouri. after this short break, we're going to reconnect with everyone. this is a place where racial tensions have turned to violence for a second night in a row. we're going to see how things are progressing at this late hour after this break. stay with cnn. two weeks

louis county prosecutor bob mcculloch under fire. >> still hurting.lly i feel like they just killed him again. >> reporter: facing fresh criticism for his handling of the michael brown shooting case and his announcement of the grand jury decision after dark. tension that had been building for hours erupting into chaos, causing some to question the timing. >> waiting for the announcement last night was wondering what the wisdom and the thought process was behind waiting till that hour. i don't know that it would have been any better. i think ultimately those who wished to create disruption were bent on doing that. >> reporter: others left wondering about the grand jury process. >> he said that there was a problem with the evidence, conflicting testimony. that's up to a jury in a regular criminal proceeding to decide the credibility of the witnesses. >> reporter: mcculloch admits this case was handled differently than others, including remaining neutral and calling every single witness to testify, even officer darren wilson. >> in this case, we thought

mcculloch bristled when a reporter asked what message the grand jury's decision had sent.he question by many members of the community with cases that have happened in the past, so county you feel making -- announcing this decision and what message do you think it sends to the community that says that they have had numerous members of their community, young, predominantly black males killed by police with impunity, what can a message do you think this decision says to them? >> a much better message than what you are sending, that young men being killed with impunity. they are not being killed with impunity. we look at every case that comes through, whether they are young black and or white men. >> i think people looking at this from around the country will be struck by there is not a single long the state of missouri that protects and values the life of this young man who unquestionably was shot and killed dead. no dispute about that by the police officer. what do you say to people who wonder, is there something wrong with the laws here that allows this to happen? that afte

and make the decision on whether or not bob mcculloch was going to be removed from the case.hink kendall makes a wonderful point that bob mcculloch should have manned up, if he felt there was no evidence to proceed with an indictment, instead of hiding behind the grand jury and playing in the court of public opinion that i'm giving all this evidence to them so that we can reach a fair decision. that's not true. man up and say that i don't think that there's a case and do not hide behind the grand jury. >> already, kendall coffey, lizz brown, appreciate the time tonight. >>> up next, the unrest goes national. leaders are calling for calm as we approach another night of protests. this is "hardball," the place for politics. the equipment tracking system will get you to the loading dock. ♪ there should be a truck leaving now. i got it. now jump off the bridge. what? in 3...2...1... are you kidding me? go. right on time. right now, over 20,000 trains are running reliably. we call that predictable. thrillingly predictable. how can in china,sumption impact wool exports from new zeal

and make the decision on whether or not bob mcculloch was going to be removed from the case. think kendall makes a wonderful point that bob mcculloch should have manned up, if he felt there was no evidence to proceed with an indictment, instead of hiding behind the grand jury and playing in the court of public opinion that i'm giving all this evidence to them so that we can reach a fair decision. that's not true. man up and say that i don't think that there's a case and do not hide behind the grand jury. >> already, kendall coffey, lizz brown, appreciate the time tonight. >>> up next, the unrest goes national. leaders are calling for calm as we approach another night of protests. this is "hardball," the place for politics. r credit score, they don't have one. r credit score, but they do. your score still needs someone to take care of it. it needs your help. for the low price of completely free forever, you can get your credit score from credit karma.com. credit karma will give you your score for free and show you what you can do to nurture it. love your score. take care of it

what do you think we learned from mcculloch's presentation?it's a difficult issue of course, because as the prosecutor said and rightfully so, police are in a very special position. there's some debate about this in the law and philosophy. police officers unlike most of us go to a job every day where they may not go home. thus, it's not surprising the law gives them over and above the self-defense rights we all have, special authorization to use force. now, there's symptom come plif indication about this. the missouri laup actually allows police officers to use deadly force even if. >> even fleeing for an arrest. >> which is almost certainly by my light unconstitutional. the supreme court ruled on this in a case where race was presented. the supreme court ignored the racial elements of that case but said deadly force in the use of a fleeing felon was unconstitutional. >> let me bring chris in on then point. chris hayes, one of the things we're hearing about from so many of the folks you've been talking to on the ground, some of these laws need

louis prosecuting attorney bob mcculloch. >> we determined that no probable cause exists to file any charge against officer wilson and no true bill on each of the five indictments. the physical and scientific evidence examined by the grand jury combined with the witness statements supported and substantiated by that physical evidence tells the accurate and tragic story of what happened. >> and shortly thereafter, president obama called for peace. >> first and foremost, we are a nation built on the rule of law. and so we need to accept that this decision was the grand jury's to make. there are americans who agree with it. and there are americans who are deeply disappointed, even angry. it is an understandable reaction. but i join michael's parents in asking anyone who protests this decision to do so peacefully. we need to recognize that this is not just an issue for ferguson. this is an issue for america. we have made enormous progress in race relations, over the course of the past several decades. i have witnessed that in my own life. and to deny that progress, i think, is to deny am

mcculloch, was uncertain about whether the case should proceed at all. there's nothing wrong with a prosecutor being uncertain, especially in a complicated case with a number of eyewitnesses and, frankly, evidence in certain cases that points in both directions. what's so unusual about this is, instead of making a selective presentation to the grand jury, he simply just threw it all in there. and that's something that is really, without precedent in my experience both as a prosecutor and as a journalist. and it certainly suggests a throwing up of hands that is not the way prosecutors usually run grand juries. if i can just make one point about grand juries, because i don't think people are really very familiar with them. they're used to jury boxes and judges. and grand juries look like classrooms. they don't look like courtrooms. you have the prosecutor and the witness up at the front, and then the jurors sitting effectively classroom style. and it just shows how this is the prosecutor's show. and here you have one, it appears, who chose not to really ma

mcculloch announced the victim the officer started to take rocks and batteries. gunshot ] >> we are a nation built on the rule of law. we need to accept that this decision was the grand jury's to make. there are americans who agree with it and americans who are

people were listening to the prosecuting attorney robert mcculloch inside there. correspondent for "fault lines" sebastien walker was inside the room. interesting. details came out. the grand jury started meeting on august 20th. they met for 70 hours over the course of the past 3.5 months. they were able to hear over 60 witness, and came to the conclusion that there would be no indictment. that officer darren wilson was reacting at a split second, like an officer should, they thought. that's the decision, what everyone will have to deal with. this is a closed case, and an open file as prosecutor robert mcculloch said about five minutes ago. we should get more details when those files get out to all of us in the coming days. hopefully we'll receive that tonight. you know what, it's quiet here, but over in ferguson, 10 miles away, the streets are filling up, the mother of michael brown was listening to the grand jury verdict whilst sitting on a vehicle. she broke down in tears and some of the demonstrators took her away. clearly a lot of people looking at this as a

course, in reaction to what we've been covering all this evening announcement by prosecutor bob mcculloch in this case the shooting death of michael brown by officer darren wilson announcement tonight just after 8:00 p.m. local time in ferguson that there would be no charges, no true bill, no indictment on any of the five charges related to that shooting death. this is both local and national news. an unusual address tonight if you are just joining us or catching up, the president of the united states, barack obama came out and spoke about this decision saying that it should be respected, that we are a nation of laws and at the same time, reiterating his condolences to the family of michael brown who was shot and saying that some anger here is understandable. we are looking here at some of the results of that anger in these fires that keep burning. as we've reported, as well tonight, this is in about a

on al jazeera america. . >> when the prosecutor, district attorney robert mcculloch explained the grand jury's decision not to in diet he emphasised the importance of discrepancies in the eyewitness lent of the shooting. >> many witnesses to the shooting of michael brown made statements inconsistent with other statements they meet and conflicting with physical evidence. some were refuted by the physical evidence. >> how could so many who claimed to have seen the shooting report different views of what happened. were they lying or did they believe what they said even when evidence. >> i heard you describe problematic witness statement. do any arise to the level of you going after perjury charges. >> no, there's a number of witnesses that believe what they said. >> "america tonight" senior correspondent sheila macvicar joins us. explain why there's a disconnect between what people report and the evidence that people show. >> we know the oath that people take when they go into a courtroom. you can have a situation where an eyewitness to an event can believe that they are talking and tellin

and you saw the crowd react to mcculloch's tone. and then because we waited so late, you had boiled this thing down a little bit already. i think they made a big mistake by waiting so late. i think mcculloch missed a huge leadership opportunity to be a uniter tonight. i think mcculloch's tone was very divisive tonight. and here we are. >> and we're witnessing now just so you know a standoff with the protesters and with police. and as you heard, some profanities there. and many of those profanities are being shouted at members of the media and also at police departments here. but again, you're looking now, very addly, at a building that is on fire, and it seems to be a complete loss. an utter loss. if you look at it. and we're told by our producers and by authorities that this is a little caesars. it appears to be in the middle of a shopping mall. police are on -- >> this is the same warning that came before. >> a warning now. >> which is you're not allowed to be in the street, it's not a place for lawful assembly right now. you have

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mcculloch announced the victim the officer started to take rocks and batteries. i heard 150 shots fired. [ gunshot ] >> we are a nation built on the rule of law. we need to accept that this decision was the grand jury's to make. there are americans who agree with it and americans who are deeply disappointed even angry. i join michael's parents in asking anyone who protests this decision to do so peacefully. [ gunshot ] >> our community has got to take some responsibility for what happened tonight. we talk about peaceful protests and that did not happen tonight. >>> welcome to "morning joe." tuesday november 25th, a lot to cover today with us on set. mike barnacle. information communications director for president george w. bush nicole wallace. and associate professor at columbia university school of international and public affairs dorian warren and associate editor of "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst eugene robinson. the headlines today very clear. no charges on the front page of "usa today." the "new york post" streets of rage. from the "daily

as a lawyer, i'm extremely disappointed in the process that prosecutor mcculloch used. all of us who have followed the criminal justice system know we have to let the system work its will. but in the instance of missouri, we know there's a grand jury process, secret, private, no one knows what's transpiring and there's a process where the district attorney who represents the victim and must be balanced, of course, can engage with the idea of charges. it doesn't say what kind of charges the individual can bring. but it does say that they make a case before the grand jury. that did not happen. and so, yes, there can be a question, if that did not happen, mr. mcculloch, what value did you put on the young life of michael brown going to college in the next couple of days before his death? it doesn't diminish officer wilson and his status but it says, what weight do you give? let me tell you how painful this is for me. i took an oath as a lawyer. i practiced law. i've sat on the bench. and i would simply say, it raises a lot of questions. and now we must look to the federal

robert mcculloch spoke at a press conference last night. >> after the review of the evidence the grand jury deliberated over 2 days making their decision. determined no probable cause exists to file charge against officer wilson, and no true bill on each of the five indictments. >> after the indictment president obama made an unusual statement from the white house briefing room. >> this is not just an issue for ferguson. this is an issue for america. progressade in norma's in -- enormous progress in race relations. i have witnessed that in my own life. , is to that progress deny america's capacity for change. is thereis also true are still problems. communities of color are not making this up. separating that from this decision, there are issues in which the law too often feels as if it is being applied in a discriminatory fashion. idol think that is the norm. i don't think that is true for the majority of communities or the vast majority of law enforcement. these are real issues. we have to lift them up and not deny them, or tempt them down. andeed to understand them make more progres

mcculloch said as much. the integrity meant we couldn't say this publicly. >> the biggest threat to darren wilson's freedom essentially was this case as oppose d to the federal case, the standard for a federal case is much different. >> i think so. >> to go after him on a civil rights investigation, you have to show that he intended to violate your civil rights. if you don't even have probable cause in this instance, intentional acts are hard. >> what will happen to darren wilson now? where does he go? >> start his life over. the life he had as darren wilson, a police officer, is over. so he'll have to find a new way -- >> how concerned are you about his security? >> very concerned. that's been part of the reason, too, we've kept such a low profile. there are death threats, constant death threats. there are bounties on his head. we think about that every time we meet. we walk out of a building, he looks every way. i do that now, too, and so does jim. we he just have to be concerned about those things. >> guy

i feel like we're into some new phase now and bob mcculloch in releasing all this is everyone is going to basically his feet were in, his feet were out, not to be glib about it, but the very high stakes version of that is what we have now, right? >> right. in a way -- look, what he did is an astonishing thing. we shouldn't lose sight of that. he sought to avoid a politically uncomfortable decision by punting to the grand jury but in his press conference essentially revealed -- >> that this is what he thought was proper. >> and that he had his thumb on the scale the whole time. the abuse of hallowed notion of transparency. if you're going to wrap yourself in this very important idea, which is we're going to let it all be free. we're going to make it open. we're going to let the information come out. when in fact what you're doing is, like i said, putting your thumb on the scale, that's a problem because, frankly it's a perversion of the process. >> to come back to the fact that everyone's in this ridiculous situation trying to construct their own trial based on this and divine what actu

in this case, mcculloch decided that is not how a grand jury was going to work.e was going to present all of the evidence and not seek an indictment, but let the grand jury have its word. that was a mistake. he was trying to maybe get out of political accountability. the process was really screwed up and i think that a lot of people who are complaining have a right to complain. >> the argument remains about whether he was perfect. i think the way he handled the grand jury was actually reasonable in the sense that if you look at the evidence as presented and you look at the decision of the grand jury, it's not clear that a trial would have served the community well. >> well, it may be, but at the same time i think a lot of people, including michael brown's parents, would have liked to a cnet trial connected with a full defense of officer wilson -- would have liked to have seen that trout conducted with a full defense of officer wilson with a full jury so that people could judge it. >> the guy is an elected prosecutor and rents profits and has no sensitivity to the

what the prosecutor bob mcculloch spoke to tonight. bob mcculloch acknowledging there were issues with police and with the community. and unfortunately, the death of michael brown would open up conversation at least for people to start a conversation and to possibly come to some sort of consensus as to how to deal with this situation. but listen, there's no way to describe what you're seeing on your screen, just utter chaos, an embarrassment really i would say for the brown family. for the peaceful and law-abiding citizens of ferguson and this country. my producers are cuing me here as we're watching people loot this convenience store, this liquor store. i want to go now to cnn's jake tapper, who is out in the crowd with more. jake, what are you seeing? >> hey, don. how are you? well, we're right near the ferguson police department. and you can see all the big police trucks. the line of police officers in their riot gear standing there blocking. we've heard anecdotally that the shots that were fired i think earlier tonight, chris cuomo

todo comenzo poco despues de las 6 de la tarde luego de la conferencia de prensa en la que robert mcculloch fiscal del condado de san luis anuncio la decision del gran jurado de que el oficial darren wilson no ira a juicio por la muerte de michael brown el pasado 9 de agosto... pues no hay pruebas suficientes para imputarlo de ninguno de los 5 cargos criminales que hubiera podido enfrentar... escuchemos take sot :05 cont vo mcculloch dijo que al parecer los miembros de jurado, 9 personas anglosajonas y 3 afroamericanos, revisaron 70 horas de testimonios de 60 testigos, analizaron toda la evidencia del caso durante 3 meses y basaron su decision en la evidencia fisica ante las contradicciones y modificaciones de los testigos... take chopper live esta decision provoco innumerables disturbios como los ocurridos poco despues de que brown fallecio a manos del oficial brown... en esta ocasion hasta disparos se escucharon... y lo que esta viendo en este momento son imagenes en vivo desde ferguson missouri en donde les espera una larga noche a las autoridades... sandra sabemos que agentes de la guar

he called out the prosecutor's handling of the case. >> this is not our first rodeo, mcculloch, we will this in the way civil rights leaders have. >> marcia fudge released a statement saying, this decision seems to underscore an unwritten rule that black lives hold no value. that you may kill black men in this country without consequences or repercussions. this is a frightening narrative for every parent or guardian of black and brown children and another setback for race relations in america. as we said, president obama is in chicago right now, about to speak. many people around the country are calling on the president to go to ferguson. he's just 300 miles from ferguson, where he is tonight. congressman gregory meeks of new york joins us tonight, who is a former prosecutor. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. your reaction to the news that has unfolded in the last 24 hours. i certainly want to get that, but i want to ask you up front, as we're getting ready to hear the president speak, do you think president obama should inject himself into this further? >> i think that the

robert mcculloch.l of the news media in his remarks last night before announcing the decision. i won't play the clip but you know, he was suggesting that it was a one-sided presentation in favor michael brown against the police officer. you didn't like what he said, did you? >> no. i thought it was ridiculous and absurd and wining about the fact that mcculloch had to do his job which he was to interrogate witnesses and learn what they knew from the news media and what they learned from first hand observation. this is not the first high profile case in the history of the united states. lots of cases are covered by the news media. and that's part of the responsibility of a big city prosecutor. to learn how deal with that. i thought given the magnitude of the events, to be whining about social media and blogs and twitter instead of talking about doing his job about, an unarmed man who was killed in his city, i thought it was entirely inappropriate part of his presentation. >> let me play that clip. i want

. >> i mentioned there's been an eruption of anger from the community about the prosecutor, bob mcculloch. and how he hand the grand jury. what did you think about the whole process those three months? >> i really think that they took us through some heart breaking, agonizing pain, when bob mcculloch pretty much knew what he wasn't going to do. and the way that he did his job was almost insubordinated. like you should have just stemmed aside and let someone do the job correctly. >> you know, i said the other day, i've never heard a prosecutor disparage a victim the way mcculloch did. what did you want -- what would you want to say to him? i know michael's father said, peel don't know his son like you and he did. what would you want to say to him when you heard him saying these disparaging things about michael jr.? >> that's a tough one, rev. i want to say a lot of things. but the proper thing would be to ask him, if you hold this seat, then why won't you do your job? no one should do your job for you. and we've been saying a lot of different people doing different people's jobs since augu

it is where the grand jury sits and where robert mcculloch, the prosecutor handling the case, has hises. since many who support michael brown feel the grand jury will not indict officer wilson and because critics say mcculloch is too close to law enforcement to be impartial. demonstrators have their eye on clayton. >> nobody is really sure about what is going to be said or what is going to be done. but with all of the reactions of what we're preparing for, we feel like we're preparing for a war. >> reporter: businesses located blocks away from mcculloch's offices wonder what will happen here once the grand jury releases its findings. julie leader said their toy store should have a steady flow of pre-holiday shoppers, but not now. >> this is our busiest time of year. and so with thanksgiving coming up with the possibility of that affecting our business, it is a little bit scary and also a little bit scary to think what damage might happen to our store. >> reporter: just down the street, more concerns. >> whichever decision comes down is, i think, still going to be problematical. >> and

they'll be allowed to ask questions of bob mcculloch. we're also told most appear to be local reporters from the saint lewis area. if there is no indictment tonight, obviously, a lot of attention will focus to what the reaction will be in the streets. what the reaction will be from michael brown's family. there will also be an interesting legal question. and that is whether or not the evidence will be publicly released. as we've been describing over the course of the day and into the evening here on msnbc, one of the anomalous decisions that this prosecutor made was to not just present evidence to this grand jury that would help make the best case for a specific indictment on a specific charge. the prosecutor announced that everything they had, everything, full stock, would be handed over to this grand jury. >> again, over three months going over vol luminous evidence from four hours of testimony from darren wilson. the three hours of deliberations, excuse me, three months of deliberations. we're told we're recorded. there were rourdings

but mcculloch intimated there were many more questions. questions that only the grand jury has the privilege offed a jute kating because only they had seen all the evidence and heard all the testimony, and they, he told us, decided there was no crime in this killing. nothing for which to indict officer wilson. yes, michael brown is dead, but that is not, they decided, a criminal act. and what father or mothered was pain. and what followed was pain, disbelief, grief, fury, protests. how could this boy be dead, but the man who shot him would not have to face a criminal charge, an open trial, a jury, a verdict? for no one was this anguish more acute and personal than for michael brown's parents, and through that pain they continued to pursue one very specific effort with fierce determination. we need to work together to fix the system that allowed this to happen, they wrote. join with us in our campaign to ensure that every police officer working the streets in this country wears a body camera. michael brown might still have been killed by of

an announcement is expected from prosecutor bob mcculloch at any moment. it's been 108 days since officer darren wilson shot and killed brown, and tonight, we will find out if he'll be charged with a crime. we also will hear from missouri governor jay nixon in about an hour and a half, to a half hour. we'll have that for you live. but what happened inside the grand jury? the secret grand jury? what decision did those 12 people come to? and what is the mood on the ground in ferguson tonight? we'll have all angles covered tonight, from the legal, to the voices in ferguson. we start tonight outside the center of justice in clayton, missouri, with msnbc's craig melvin. craig, this moment has been months in the making. what's the mood? >> rev, i would describe the mood as anxious. as you said, 108 days since that shooting here in ferguson. law enforcement anxious, citizens anxious, protesters anxious. we've seen more barricades go up around the justice center behind me where the grand jury had been deliberating. we've seen monuments in front of the police depar

mcculloch has the final a. he decides what votes and if nine jurors believe there's enough evidence, and the families say they believe there's more sufficient evidence, if nine votes are cast, in favour of an indictment. this case moves to the next level. >> attorney general calls the decision a defining moment for history. do you agree? >> i think the case has a lot of symbolism. i don't want the african american community and the country to make decisions on whether, you know, darren wilson is indicted or not. there are larger issues, voter engagement, the poor race relationships between the police in ferguson and the citizens, issues of poor education in the community. i hope the case gives us all an opportunity to give us and look at larger issues and look at how we can make the community better and communities like ferguson over the country better. >> areva martin, thank you for coming on, appreciate it. >> a summer protest in ferguson left african american leaders hoping for a large voter turn out in the

the posterior bob mcculloch going on for 20 minutes and answering questions afterwards. here on the ground, outside the ferguson police headquarters someone set up a large set of speakers on a trolley. the crowd listened carefully to his words. the clip played - they did not notice that clip, and it took a while, but eventually people started saying "no indictment", and the chant went out. a group of protesters after that went up to the police barrier and kicked it in, and forced police to come out of the fire station next door, and from that point things went downhill. >> more than 4800 pages of evidence released. can you tell us a bit about some of those highlights. >> yes, 5,000 pages almost released by bob mcculloch, the st louis county prosecutor. of all of it, the most interesting from the police officer darren wilson, because according to the testimony given by darren wilson, and made public, he asked michael brown and a friend to get out of the rode. they refused, gave him backchat and was profeign, and he said what's wrong with the sidewalk and michael brown cam

mcculloch is the brother-in-law of the player that hit the ball. >> what do you mean? despite having it. that's how we do it in new zealand. >> it's great. >> lucky i'm wearing shoes now. >> they should sign him up for the team. >> it was the latest news in a few moments. stick around. >>> it is america versus china in a race for global trade partners. i'll look at whether free trade kills jobs or creates them. also, is america headed for another housing crisis? i'm looking at the red flags right now. plus, anything goes as i try to talk about real issues with a fake news correspondent. the daily show joins me right here tonight. this is real

he described what bob mcculloch did by the prosecutor last night as an extended whine. but this decision by the prosecutor to unilaterally call the witnesses to this crime or this case, at least, the shooting, right, to call the witnesses liars and fab ewe lists, witnesses in this case have been totally discredited and should never be believed. that decision, not only reflects on what brought us to this point in ferguson. it may very well reflect on what's going to happen next there,too. the prosecutor at the county level here appears not only to justify his own decision, that there will be no local prosecution for the dgsz, but, also, in his own statement, ae tries to be materially effecting any other legal are e discourse by the family of the deceased in civil court. since that 18-year-old young man died, and was left by police lying in the street in the august heat for 4 1/2 hours on that saturday afternoon, people up set by that shoot iing including what happened, have been trying to get recourse. and they've been trying to recourse through the system. there is also

and bob mcculloch couldn't have gotten an indictment that would have led to a public trial of officern. am i wrong? >> that's the curious thing, juan, that the description that these people give of grand juries is the criticism of grand juries that defense attorneys like myself and others long criticized grand juries as not seriously reviewing evidence that they are rigged. this is a raritiy. this is a case where prosecutor did not put his thumb on the scale and the grand jury actually looked at the entirety of the evidence i'm not sure that's a criticism. normally not done. in this case people are often ignoring some simple facts. one is that there was a great deal of evidence supporting the officer i have significant concern about this case as a lot of people do. the forensic evidence and some eyewitness testimony did support the officer. if this was handled like a normal grand jury in one day. it very likely would have been a very fast decision not to indictment i will tell you one thing, putting aside the grand jury, i don't have much doubt in my mind that this would have been def

robert mcculloch, the prosecutor, put all of the evidence they had before the grand jury, which was an unusual procedure. but all of that evidence is now available. he has made it public, another unusual step. how that affects the federal investigation is unclear. it is not certain the federal government will take its investigation to a grand jury. it could decide to do so if it thinks it has enough evidence. now that all of the evidence from the local grand jury is out there, that means every witness that went into the federal grand jury would have the evidence of the witnesses before, which is not an ideal circumstance for conducting a grand jury. usually you want the witnesses to come in and have to testify about what they saw, heard, and know about the case. there is a natural tendency to adapt one's testimony to what you think others are saying. it is not that people are intentionally misleading. but sometimes there is a natural tendency. that is not ideal. host: is the criminal investigation done on the ground in ferguson or out of washington? guest: the lead will be the civil ri