brian: our guest has been david mccullough. this is a book called "the wri ght brothers." david: thank you, brian. it is good to be back with you. ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] announcer: four transcripts of the program, it is also available as c-span podcast. announcer: canadian astronaut chris hatfield spent three tours on the international space station and wrote several books on the experience, including "you were here: around the world," and also michael hill, a researcher for david mccullough, and the latest book called "dead weight, the latest crossing of the lusitania." watch these at c-span.org. announcer: the u.s. capitol, the u.s. senate earlier today failing to move forward on the soon-to-be ex firing provisions of the usa patriot act back in 2001. after 9/11, the collection of american phone records will ex buyer at midnight. we will take a look at the observatory in washington, the master clock t

experience, including "you were here: around the world," and also michael hill, a researcher for david mccullough, and the latest book called "dead weight, the latest crossing of the lusitania." watch these at c-span.org. announcer: the u.s. capitol, the u.s. senate earlier today failing to move forward on the soon-to-be ex firing provisions of the usa patriot act back in 2001. after 9/11, the collection of american phone records will ex buyer at midnight. we will take a look at the observatory in washington, the master clock ticking down. this is until midnight, in just a couple of seconds.

brian: this week, our guest is pulitzer prize winner david mccullough. out with his new book, the wright brothers. he talks about the personal stories of wilbur and orville wright, the roles their family played as the brothers experienced failures and successes, and a time. in which they lived as the race to achieve flight was at its peak. brian: i recently picked up the washington post and saw a review of your book written by a woman and she says the magical account of their early adventures, the wright brothers -- enhanced by correspondences, written records, and his deep understanding of the country shows us two boys from a remarkable family taught the world to fly. did you expect that from her? david: it is as if the pope blessed the book. to have her ride that review meant more than i can say. brian: heavy matter? david: have you i have met her but i don't know her. i did an interview with her mother. she was wonderful. delightful to talk to. her mother is the one i interviewed. what i liked about what you just read is she set a remarkable family. t

i mean,, david mccullough is an amazing biographer. i'm going look over to the side of my bookshelf. >> embrace people to him. sells well. >> well, let's broaden it. i will add bob carroll to the mix. i'm actually a big find -- a big fan of presidential biographies of political memoirs. it is the storytelling. i mean, if you read -- and this is one of his presidential biographies but if you read his book on the brooklyn bridge that book is not just about the brooklyn bridge, it's about mechanical engineering at the time, it's about you know, what they learned about -- what's it called? you have the -- >> suspension? >> no. i am thinking about when you go scuba diving you get the bends. how they discovered the ben stein the construction of the bridge. brooklyn politics at the time all of these incredible figures that played into the building. so so what he does is he kind of leaves this incredible tapestry. and so it's the storytelling, it's the vividness of the writing. >> is there any trend in nonfiction books or in fiction books that

brian: how do you know when david mccullough is mad? angry? irritated? [laughter] michael: you don't. david: i don't get mad. i get frustrated sometimes, and i get impatient, and i think your capacity for patience diminishes with age because, you know, time is running out. you don't want to waste any time. but i am so glad he made a point about the archivists and the librarians and the immense help they are. every single person that i give credit to in the acknowledgments in my book is somebody who has done something a very great value for my work. i think that one of the more obvious lessons of history is almost nothing of any consequence is accomplished in isolation, by the individual. it is a joint effort. certainly this kind of scholarship is always a joint effort. time and again, i have had a librarian or an archivist say to me, remember would you were in here one year ago and you were looking -- but i found it. sometimes, it can be very exciting material. brian: the wright brothers. when you started to learn what they were like, what you find? what

governor terry mccullough moved to get confederate license plates off the roads. the nearly 1600 plates that are currently on the roads will have to go. larry hogan in maryland says he's also against the plates. happening now, investigators are getting a better idea of the relationship between a former prison they left and two escaped prisoners. police say joyce mitchell used baked goods to smuggle hacksaw blades into the prison inside of frozen meat. matt and sweat escaped 18 days ago and are still on the run. six baltimore police officers pleaded not guilty in the death of freddie gray. gray died in april from a severe spinal cord injury that he suffered in custody. new details in his autopsy report were obtained by "the baltimore sun" and they indicated his injuries were caused when the transport van slow down. the officers' trial is scheduled for october 13. ,, the storm was part of the same system that sparked tornadoes last night in illinois, michigan, and ohio. there were winds of 160 miles per hour. a lot of folks had to be rescued out of their homes after

i am here with sandra smith and keith mccullough. the pacific rim, those in that region, now we bring china into the fold. china is doing its own deal with these countries. >> i would say this is the first thing in a long time i have agreed with obama on. you cannot let the right the rules. if you repeat history, the agreement that the u.s. said the rules, set them up for a serious level of domination, trade perspective and economic perspective globally. they can sit on their hands, have to get into the room and at a bare minimum understand what the other players at doing. maria: talking markets that make 30% gdp and the president makes all the points, when we are not helping shape the rules of the road, u.s. businesses and workers get cut out. it is a big country, is there and growing, if we don't write the old rules of the road, this is important. >> up until today we have been trying to engage countries like japan, countries with in that region to do would deal with us, america and not with china. i am wondering if china felt like

brian: a couple weeks ago, david mccullough was here and he talks about charles sumner going to france, you talk about it in your book, but you will get another voice in here and we will see your reaction. >> sumner graduated from harvard, went to harvard law school, practiced law and decided, i don't know enough. my education is not sufficient. i want to learn more. i will go to paris. he borrowed $3000, closed up his law office and went to the sorbonne. attending lectures and everything. he writes about what he is listening to, who he is meeting and what he is learning, but there is one entry with the speaker was tedious and he found himself looking around the lecture hall, mind wondering and he noticed that the other students, several thousand in this lecture hall, that the other students treated the black students just as though they were like everybody else. he wrote in the diary, maybe how we treat black people at home is the result of what we have been taught and not part of the natural order of things. brian: did you read the diary? mr. puleo: i did and it is a great quote. not

he is, without argument and you can argue david mccullough if you want to, the finest narrative nonfiction writer alive. [applause] he is also a terrific human being, and you unfortunately have to listen to larson and kogan. this is the first time we've ever had a conversation that did not involve cocktails. >> thats is true, that is true. >> so we may not be as wildly fun as we normally are, but we hope to be fun. [laughter]sa erik, right now the lucetania you describe as a floating village in steel.ng i'm not going to concentrate much on the book. t my editor, jerry kern, is a huge fan of the book. he has specific questions. i'm goingdi to talk more about int a sense the process. sense. you are now in what you call the dark country of no ideas. >> that is a term i didn't come up with. my good friend and publicist came up with it when i am looking for a period to describe my next book. when i finish a book i have no other idea on my plate and start from scratch. it is a long-ish process taking about a year before starting the next project during which i am unpleasant and snappish and piss

. >> coming up next, q&a with author david mccullough discussing his book on the wright brothers. followed at 7:00 a.m. by "washington journal." ♪ brian: this week on "q&a," our guest is pulitzer prize winner david mccullough. out with his new book, "the wright brothers." he talks about the personal stories of wilbur and orville wright, the roles their family played as the brothers experienced failures and successes, and the time in which they lived as the race to achieve flight was at its peak. brian: i recently picked up the washington post and saw a review of your book, and she says the magical account of their early adventures, the wright brothers -- enhanced by correspondences written records, and his deep understanding of the country shows us two boys from a remarkable family taught the world to fly. did you expect that from her? david: it is as if the pope blessed the book. to have her write that review meant more than i can say. brian: have you met her? david: i have met her but i don't know her. i did an interview with her mother. she was wonderful. delightful to talk to.

and "the wright brothers" by david mccullough. betty: not light reading.ie: steve schwarzman is on the list online and he mentioned "outliers" by malcolm gladwell. a little lighter reading. majored in history at harvard, mark: summer reading for the heavy hitters. betty: i will say goodbye. mark: we will meet the ceo of boxed. ♪ mark: breaking news this hour. you are looking at the live shot from the floor of the united states house of representatives lawmakers are voting out on the trade adjustment authority. they believe that is the best means to kill the fast-track authority. they have launched the last di tch effort to scuttle the president's program. we saw nancy pelosi speaking earlier. she urged her colleagues to avoid -- to vote against this red and the democrat from corey gaines said the taa is he had needed to facilitate the whole deal. they can stop this whole train revisit the most egregious provisions of fast-track. welcome back to bloomberg market day. let's go straight to your top headlines at this hour. setting aside another $63 million to

topping the list, david mccullough recount thing birth of flight in o'the wright brothers" followed by "tidying up." david brooks latest book comes in third in roy the record to character" looking at the lives of ten historical figures as examples how to achieve discuss. next o'dead wake "recounting the sinking of the lusitania. and "with" an examination end of life care in being mortal. a look at indy bound's best sellers list continues with h is for hawk by el lend mcdonnell until and j.k. rowling followed by john -- discusses sexual assaults at the university of montana in missoula in ninth oliver sacks recounteds his life in "on the move," and wrapping up the best sellers. tom brokaw discusses this personal battle with cancer in "a lucky life interrupted." that's a look at current nonfiction best sellers according to indy bound. >> from our recent visit to new york city, booktv interviews adam bellow, editorial director of broadside books. he tacks about some authors he has worked with the past as well as titles soon to be released by broadside. >> one thing we like to do at booktv

governor terry mccullough announced a new effort that will allow driverless cars to test on roadways in northern virginia. vdot and the dmv are partnering with virginia tech's transportation institute to create automated corridors. those vehicles will test out parts of the beltway, 95 66 as well as routes 29 and 50. d.c. and three other states are also testing this driverless technology. >>> a new push tonight to find the killers of a d.c. community reporter. we'll tell you about the new approach by police. >>> and the 295 shooting during rush hour, the i-team has found one reason why this case may be tough to solve. this summer take flight, without having to take a flight. because all the thrills you need are right here at busch gardens, and water country usa. in williamsburg, va. like the daring new coaster tempesto. so ride together slide together whether it's monster drops collossal curls or furry friends it's all here. vacation packages start at $50 per person per night. the ultimate summer vacation is closer than you think at busch gardens and water country usa. >> ff's been ne

entrepreneur robert mccullough purchased what historic bridge for $2.4 million. >> london bridge. >> confused with tower bridge which is what he thought he was buying. >> the other options, atchafalaya basin bridge. is that a made up bridge? >> keep reading. >> 1971 a man hijacked northwest airlines 305 after receiving $200,000 in cash and several parachutes and jumped and never caught. what name did he go by? billie jean jr., charles hill, d.b. cooper. >> d.b. cooper . >> correct. >> we're tied. >> where is h.r. when you need them? >> 19 72 what car surpassed ford's -- >> yes. >> the favorite beetle. >> that is correct. >> last question. >> thanks for the context. >> you can tie this now or lose it. here we go. >> jimmy hendricks passed away in september -- >> yes. >> janis joplin. >> for all of you the question is, he passed away september 18th, 1970, 16 days ahead of what other rock star? janis joplin. why only six questions? >> because. i can think of several very good reasons why we only did six. >> let's -- let's -- now that we've got the end of these questions. >> it's tied. >

next up, our brian: this week, our guest is pulitzer prize winner david mccullough. out with his new book, "the wright brothers." he talks about the personal stories of wilbur and orville wright, the roles their family played as the brothers experienced failures and successes, and the time in which they lived, as the race to achieve flight was at its peak. i recently picked up the washington post and saw a review

he is, without argument and you can argue david mccullough if you want to, the finest narrative nonfictionwriter alive. [applause] he is also a terrific human being, and you unfortunately have to listen to larson and kogan. this is the first time we've ever had a conversation that did not involve cocktails. >> thats is true, that is true. >> so we may not be as wildly fun as we normally are, but we hope to be fun. [laughter]sa erik, right now the lucetania you describe as a

virginia governor terry mccullough announced his attempt to phase out the flag from state license plates from the state of virginia. and house speaker says it's quote become a point of defense that needs to be removed. the movement quickly spilled into the business sector of the country. nascar threw its support behind removal. ebay, amazon others decide ed to prohibit the sale of the flags in stores and on websites. sears, walmart will remove containing the flag from their shelves. senator chris murphy from connecticut wrote good for walmart. for saying they won't sell confederate flags. now how about all of those assault weapons? murphy has led the charge for gun control legislation after the 2012 newtown shootings in his state. despite over 90% of americans favoring stronger gun control laws, the effort fell by the wayside. nbc news confirms dylann roof legally purchased the semi-automatic handgun he used in the shooting in south carolina. initial reports describing him receiving the gun as the gift were false. he was facing a drug charge which does not prohibit him from buying a gun

in second, david mccullough, two-time winner of the pulitzer prize recounts the birth of flight in, the wright brothers. bill o'reilly with david fisher come in third with the companion book to the fox news series legend and lives which examines lives of the american people in the midwest. up next fox news contributor and former white house press secretary dana perino shares stories from her years in the white house and her time in television in, and the good news is. our look at the chicago tribune best-seller list continues with american wife from taya kyle, widow of "american sniper" author chris kyle. she along with jim defelice recount her life after her husband's death. up next, in the road to character, "new york times" columnist david brooks looks at the lives of 10 historical figures as examples for how to achieve success. also on the list, ashley vance profiles the inventor and cofounder of tesla motors and paypal in, "elon musk." wrapping up this week's best-sellers tom brokaw long-time host of the "nbc nightly news" program discusses his personal battle with cancer in a luck

topping the list, david mccullough, two time winner of the pulitzer prize recounting the birth of flight in the right brothers. that is a look at some of the current nonfiction bestsellers according to indy bound. >> it all just, if you ask me why i was doing this, in my late 20s, would always be the same, it might be funny. things have changed. i was looking for it might be funny. i thought it might be funny to sneak into a building thought it moon honey, democracy and when the islamic state. he was calling himself osama bin laden -- ha we called him up, must have thought he was dead, really successful. and the democracy is okay and on the first day the first thing we did was watch the lion king the only way he can relax, they call me the why and, great warrior, a great fighter. then he needed to get a collection box, went to the local wholesale warehouse and the only collection box in stock would be a giant novelty plastic coca-cola bottles. i said isn't it funny you are collecting money to overthrow the west, palpable symbols? he was like yes did two engage them. taking him to show fo

brian: he's the same one that david mccullough uses. evan: yes. mike and i were at the library i spent a couple months out at the library listening to tapes and the archivist there helped me. there is a mountain of material. the one thing that scholars, or rather journalists, need to know, is that if you walk cold into a presidential library, forget it. you cannot even read the finding aid. you need to spend a couple of years reading the secondary stuff and talking to people before you even darken the door of a presidential library. but then, if you befriend the archivist, they will point you in the right direction. brian: which book that you read did you find the most useful? evan: the haldeman diaries are quite useful. those are 40% to maybe half of the actual diaries. the actual diaries you can get on a cd. the haldeman diaries are great. he is a great observer of the "p" as they called him. the president was known as "the p." he was gentle and tender about nixon in a way. he can also make fun of him a little bit. william safire, one of the spe

. -- mccullough. there we is said a facially neutral law does not become content based simply because it may disproportion maltly affect certain topics. in other words, when you're dealing with a initially-neutral law is whether the law is justified without reference to the content. so it seems to me that you've got to get over the content neutrality. your argument only applies when it's content newt lal, and yet here we're dealing with a situation where you're saying it's an exception to the content-based rule. >> well, your honor, i think the court can deal with the competing interests in this case more easily not by getting bogged down in the definition of content-based and con innocent-neutral, but by focusing on the bottom line question of whether this is an appropriate case for strict scrutiny or intermediate scrutiny. >> when you use those labels in the context of the first amendment, do they mean the same thing that they mean in equal protection? that intermediate scrutiny is a pretty tough st

topping the list, david mccullough recount thing birth of flight in o'the wright brothers" followed by"tidying up." david brooks latest book comes in third in roy the record to character" looking at the lives of ten historical figures as examples how to achieve discuss. next o'dead wake "recounting the sinking of the lusitania. and "with" an examination end of

. >> counsel, i'm not sure your whole approach is not precluded by our decision in mccullough.here we is said a facially neutral law does not become content based simply because it may disproportion ally affect certain topics. in other words when you're dealing with a initially-neutral law is whether the law is justified without reference to the content. so it seems to me that you've got to get over the content neutrality. your argument only applies when it's content neutral, and yet here we're dealing with a situation where you're saying it's an exception to the content-based rule. >> well, your honor, i think the court can deal with the competing interests in this case more easily not by getting bogged down in the definition of content-based and con innocent-neutral but by focusing on the bottom line question of whether this is an appropriate case for strict scrutiny or intermediate scrutiny. >> when you use those labels in the context of the first amendment, do they mean the same thing that they mean in equal protection? that is intermediate scrutiny is a pretty tough standa

maria: sandra smith and keith mccullough thank you. over to stuart varney have a good show. stuart: you cannot fire a government worker even when your personal security is directly threatened. good morning everyone. case in point, chronic problems with airport security. 67 times out of 70 attempts fake weapons and bombs went right through the tsa. and the top guy is simply reassigned, not fired. big trouble for the iran nuke deal. the new york times reports the iranians have been cheating. their nuclear fuel stockpile has grown. it was supposed to have been frozen. what will it do for president obama's legacy. he says he's made america the most respected country on earth. there's a firestorm of criticism about that one. what leads the news on social media? caitlyn jenner and vince vaughan we cover it all and "varney & company" is about to begin. ♪ >> good day sunshine ♪ ♪ good say sunshine ♪ >> the beatles, now there's a boy band for you. the original. i'm afraid to say ladies and gentlemen there's not much sun in new york city rainy in fact, but we're fired up for day two o

it was published in 1997 by michael e mccullough and others and classified by the library of congress under forgiveness and interpersonal relations. they say the next act of healing in this story was niche yailted by colonel joshua l. chamberlin who had been a professor of theology prior to listen in the union army. nearly 100,000 men passed by the courthouse. chamberlin led his main in a gesture of forgiveness toward those he tried to kill the previous week. war seeks justice but chamberlin understood his enemies were human and deserved more than justice. they deserved respect. he communicated that although justice would be served, mercy would also be extended. that is forgiveness. in a third and final example robert j. wicks conjures up chamberlin in his handbook of spirituality for ministers. published in 2000 and classified by the library of congress under clergy, religious life, and pastoral theology. here's what he says. at the end of the war, chamberlin is chosen to be the officer in charge of the union troops receiving the surrender. as the confederates dejectedly marched pass

in second, david mccullough, two-time winner of the pulitzer prize recounts the birth of flight in, the wright brothers. bill o'reilly with david fisher come in third with the companion book to the fox news series legend and lives which examines lives of the american people in the midwest. up next fox news contributor and former white house press secretary dana perino shares stories from her years in the white house and her time in television in, and the good news is. our look at the chicago tribune best-seller list continues with american wife from taya kyle, widow of "american sniper" author chris kyle. she along with jim defelice recount her life after her husband's death. up next, in the road to character, "new york times" columnist david brooks looks at the lives of 10 historical figures as examples for how to achieve success. also on the list, ashley vance profiles the inventor and cofounder of tesla motors and paypal in, "elon musk." wrapping up this week's best-sellers tom brokaw long-time host of the "nbc nightly news" program discusses his personal battle with cancer in a luck

number one this week is "the right brothers" by david mccullough.e featured many of these books on booktv, which you can see every weekend on c-span two. also, a new book out on ronald reagan. the title is "reagan, the life." as we said this week, the house will be focusing on trade issues. speaker of the house john boehner saying that they will be a majority of republicans likely to support the trade bill. not the case for democrats. he can watch the debate on tpp fast-track authority on c-span. pat from ohio talked about this issue in his remarks. [video clip] >> trade means new market and new customers. did you know that we have a trade surplus with the 20 nations that we have a trade agreement with? or that manufacturing jobs tied to trade a 16% more. or, employment in ohio declined, but employment in trade improved. people say that trade gets them through tough times, allowing them to hire and expand. president obama can negotiate trade agreements on his own, and in secret, he does not have to make you or i informed. it does not make sense. it

if you didn't read the book "the brooklyn bridge" you should read it by david mccullough. it's an incredible book. we don't want to lose the brooklyn bridge. in ohio, the john ro ebing suspension bridge. the oklahoma, the bridge over crooked oak creek. in oregon, the columbia river crossing. the pennsylvania the benjamin franklin bridge. the rhode island, the viaduct in providence. in south carolina, the i-85 bridge in greenville. in texas the i-45 bridge over white oak bayou. in utah, the i-15 bridge over s.r. 93 in davis county. in washington, the evergreen point floating bridge. in wisconsin the us-41 bridge over a river. now, pi just have to -- i just have to ask my friends on both sides of the aisle. if the roof over your house is about to cave in with your children inside and you know about it, wouldn't you find a way to pay for that repair or would you let it collapse on your kids? the answer is obvious. of course we're going to fix the bridge in our house. you have to keep the infrastructure in good repair. though the roof is caving in on our roads and bridges and

topping the list, david mccullough, two time winner of the pulitzer prize recounts the birth of flight in the right brothers. that is this week's top ten nonfiction bestsellers according to the new york times. this is booktv on c-span2 and we wa