they have mccutchen, milledge, alvarez and now clement.es to actually be optimistic for the first time in a long, long time. >> i think they've got the core of at least a winning club, which is not something they've had in about two decades there. they're putting together now i would say in high a double a. that puts them probably about two years from reallying being contributors in the big leagues? mccutchen is there, pedro alvarez, alderson who they picked up from the giants for freddie sanchez. very good polished pitching prospects with an outpitch breaking ball. he's probably two years away. give them until 2011 for that wave to start showing up, maybe 2012 before they really click. >> keith law, espn.com major league insider. the trade deadline is upon us. thanks for the info. i'm sure we'll talk to you soon. >> my pleasure. >> up next, roy halladay doesn't win in what could be, could be his last start as a toronto blue jay. you'll hear from him next on espnews. >> welcome back to the "p.t.i." program. okay, wilbon. on the vikings' qu