what was striking to me watching the hearing this morning was jim mcdermott is a clown. i think, one of the least serious members of congress out of 535. but what was striking to me is the number of otherwise serious democrats, good democrats who were taking the jim mcdermott line and essentially making the argument that jim mcdermott was, and you heard this from people like llo doggett of texas who kept talking about tax subsidies for these groups. they're not getting tax subsidies. they're asking to keep their own money. there's a difference between tax exemption and tax subsidies. i thought one of the most compelling moments of the hearing came when these groups were asked what the effect of not getting their applications approved was, and sort of down the row people said my group has been dormant since 2011. so when you add all of these people last fall asking where were the tea party groups, where were the tea party groups? we now know to a certain extent. they were dormant because their applications were not approved. >> bret: another story we haven't focused on ye

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mcdermott, let's take him first. defending the irs, attacking the people who come in look, we were abused by this powerful agency. it was wrong, it was unamerican. mcdermott apparently doesn't think it's unamerican and you say? i thought his behavior was appalling. if anybody watched that, it was unbelievable behavior why the irs. for him to say you are political, i mean, that's totally different situation topic, basically there are liberal groups that get this status and conservative groups that get this status. he can't just say it's okay to treat you guys this way because basically you think political positions that i disagree with so i'm going to look away when the irs abuses you. >> bill: he did clearly say that it was okay with him that the irs did what they did because these people were involved in political advocacy. and it's true they were but as you just pointed out, so are a bevy, bevy, bevy of far left groups that have the same status and are not scrutinized. now, go ahead. >> i just want to say there are

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i have to be -- i happen to be a fan of jim mcdermott but this is going over the liability i don't know how much longer we're going to tolerate this idea of protecting muslim terrorists that are in this country -- go to mosques and they're all upset about profiling around mosques. well that's where this stuff gets generated. i want to wait to see the first muslim to stand up and say, these people deserve to go to jail on the side of that bus. instead of not saying anything. has anybody heard a cleric or anybody else apologize, head of a muslim country for what's going on here? in the meantime they're taking christians out of our churches, the catholic church in egypt and bringing them out and killing them. what is fair is fair. you want to get fair? ask yourself what your prophet would have done with this. >> good point there. >> you don't hear about sleeper cell synagogues, do you? >> no, you don't. that's true. should there have been a more diverse ad? >> listen, this is i think dangerous and irresponsible. i'm so sick of this pc stuff. we have had no good or important foreign policy

i think i have to be a fan of jim mcdermott, but this goes way over the line.on't know how much longer we will tolerate this idea of protecting muslim terrorists that are in this country. you go to mosques, they're all upset about profiling around mosques, well, that's where this stuff gets generated! i want to wait to see the first muslim to stand up and say these people deserve to go to jail. has anybody heard a cleric or anybody else apologize, head of a muslim country for what's gone on here? meantime, they're taking christians out of our churches, catholic church in egypt, bringing them out and killing them. fair is fair. you want to get fair? ask yourself what the prophet would have done with this. >> good point. >> y hear about sleeper cell synagogues, do you. >> no, you don't. should there have been a more diverse ad? >> this i think is dangerous and irresponsible. i am sick of this pc, that we have had no good or important foreign policy advancement, have we? so worried about what you say, can't profile, can't go on a suspect description, you make a jo

applicants reviewed by the nominations subcommittee that the bic also may consider include: david mcdermott, azemina favretto, ron giddings, alexander lirisman, brian foust, and george wesely. the clerk: item 6: discussion and possible action to approve and swear in a member of the board of examiners licensed architect seat. appointments recommended by the nominations subcommittee are: bradley sugarman and toby engelberg. seat to expire september 15, 2016. additional eligible applicants reviewed by the nominations subcommittee that the bic also may consider include: david mcdermott, azemina favretto, ron giddings, alexander lirisman, brian foust, and george wesely. #124 1234 >> what was the second name? the two recommended are bradley sugar man, they were not recommended by the committee but all the candidates that applied. >> thank you. you want to take the lead here? >> i would like to recommend that we a point sugarman for the architectural seat. i want to thank all that applied. given the short notice we had a good number of candidates that applied for the seat. >> second. >> is there a

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and i think this poster needs to come down. >> mcdermott is completely nuts. is he a colorful character but on this issue i think if you like polled this issue in the united states it would be 95% of the country would say you have got to be kidding me. good muslims in the united states. working people. hard working people, wonderful law abiding people. they hurt themselves by calling something like this racist. because other people kind of say wait a second, y'all -- why are you making it harder for us to raise awareness by complaining about it i don't think it sits right with folks. i really don't in the end. i think you are well intentioned but i don't think it sits right and well with people. >> let me tell you why, way back in september last year, right here on fox news, i had warned the fox news that the posters put in the subways was dead wrong wrong and dangerous to fellow americans. what is a catholic woman coming out of a church muslim woman or hindu bombing coming out and attacked and arrest. it did happen. hindu woman was killed in subway train beca

one dem crosswalk democratic lawmaker does, congressman jimmy mcdermott.ark, we put pictures up of wanted terrorists and that's racist? >> eric, let me clarify. i was speaking to your producers earlier. i agree the fbi should have everything in its power to help them capture terrorists, including this bus ad. what i said to the producer, i agree with the congressman's sentiment here. i know that monica will say that is an example of political correctness run amok. i think it's also an example of moral correctness on some level when we need to understand that we have three and a half million arab americans living in this country who are mostly law-abiding, god-fearing, freedom-loving, and they -- we need to make sure -- senator cruz was on we need to welcome legal immigrants -- >> mark, mash, i think we're all in agreement we need to welcome and every be fair and balanced and not racially charged. however, these guys are criminals, known terrorists. hold on. >> i would say to mark when he says this is a country that welcomes law-abiding citizens and plenty

this is what congressman mcdermott says. it's offensive to muslims and it encourages racial profiling and religious profiling too. what do you think? >> are these the actual terrorists we're looking for? are these photos that look like them? were they doctored in any way? what are we supposed to do, put up 12eubg figures -- stick figures, hey, congressman mcdermott, do you recognize this guy? the world is the way it is. as you know, we have the boston bombing, and tamerlan tsarnaev has problematic ties to terrorist supporters, and yet even after the fbi had photos of tamerlan and his brother, they didn't know who to look for. and a lot of officers in boston are asking, wait a minute, how can the nsa be spying on us but they not know about this guy that the russians had already indicated? could it be that law enforcement with political leadership like we have is reluctant to look if the suspect is in the muslim community? rick: i want to read some of the statement from the congressman. this is in the letter that he sent to di

co-ceo big mcdermott. to have you on the program. >> welcome back. >> thank you, maria and bill. >> does it feel like oracle is becoming a more formal competitor, not just software space, but with the cloud computing? >> i think they finally got the memo that customers want choice and you need an echo system of friendly partners to help collaborate with the customers so they get what they want. we built our entire strategy on an open echo system. that's why we have 15,000 partners. if we had to do a press release for every one of them, we'd have a lot of press releases. >> how will that change the landscape, them teaming up? >> it won't change the landscape one bit. the fact of the matter is the landscape is pretty much established. the big trends right now are going to be big data and how you can manage that for customers faster and better. it's going to be cloud comput g computing, both at the private and the public cloud level. and then you have to have applications that help industries run their busine

i think people like congressman mcdermott -- >> that's one point for him to make when he's talking torepubli or one-on-one with an interviewer or me. heas the victim sitting there, right in front of him. the one woman was in tears moments earlier and his respon^ sounded callous to some. democrats are frustrated because this is a serious situation that hasn't been handled well. from a communications perspective, it has not been handled well either. but it's a difficult situation. there seems to be some -- seems to have been some serious wrongdoing that took place on president obama's watch. i mean, i don't think there's any suggestion that president obama knew anything about it. i don't think -- >> some are suggesting but certainly no proof. >> certainly no proof. there's no proof that he knew anything about it. i think there's no proof -- >> but it's frustrating for the left because it's like the irs mucked up the argument now because the left had been pushing to have greater scrutiny of these 501c4s and many fair-minded people on the left are saying, not that much. >> there are been

so chris what do you think of what congressman mcdermott said there is this political theater and do you you know do you think republicans are trying to advance advance the story so that they can ultimately kill the i.r.s. now i think what. the political theater is what the i.r.s. was doing to certain groups and not all groups that they didn't have a list of questions to ask any group that was applying. five a one c four status so it was the same across the board but they were targeting and look you found congressman mcdermott but there's a lot of democrats who are upset about what the i.r.s. was doing and congress didn't say they were going to destroy the i.r.s. they said look you give us the answers about what was happening and you'll get your funding if you don't that's congress's job oversight of a government agency we want congress to have oversight believe me we do and when the republicans have the presidency the democrats are going to want to make sure that that executive branch has over the republicans have the presidency in two thousand and four and we saw a whole instances

. >> bill: now, do you think your colleague jim mcdermott the colleague from washington state wants theruth. do you really think he wants to know what happened there. >> his version of the truth may be different than what the american people's version of the truth might be. >> bill: running interference for the irs today. he was defending the irs. and the most vocal defender on the ways and means committee in the face of all this testimony. i knew -- you know he is a far left guy. >>e. >> bill: if it was reversed. if the bush administration had been going after media matters and these people, mcdermott woul been the first one out there with the flaming torch. >> absolutely amazing. what he was doing was saying that because the individuals came to the irs and asked for that status that it was their fawg faulted that these things happened. that really was phenomenal. >> bill: do you talk to h though? do you say what are you doing, jim? >> sure. >> bill: what does he say? >> absolutely. as you know he is a far leguy. he says, look, we y'all are interested in conspiracies and all this stuff

was your reacts to statements of jim mcdermott?it was preposterous to make that connection, they were law abiding citizens that were organizing under first amendment righ and as many point out, don't use taxpayer funds. it's something they were entitled to do. they are entitled to not be discriminated against. you really need to hear those stories personally. to actually see the age americans who came from all over the country and what they represented, the hundreds of people, i think it was important to put a face on this. >> soi lerner knew about this in june of 20 11-the irs concluded their ownnternal investigation in may of 2012. are you able to telle american people why they didn't know about this beforehe 2012 election, sir? we can't yet. we know t high ranking officials at irs and two knew a year ago. treasury we don't know who really started this yet. that will be the painstaking part of this investigation that is just beginning wherereally have to dig in and get sort of that kind of information. they have not been forth co

yesterday we told you democratic congressman jim mcdermott wants wanted posters of terrorists removedsaying the posters encourage racial and religious profiling. today we learned he thinks profiling of a different kind -- the kind that targeted conservatives -- is just fine. in fact he says it's a good idea while questioning interim irs chief at hearing today mcdermott took issue with the agency suspending b ork lo or be on the look out list for screening groups applying for tax exempt status. >> the american college of surgeons has just adopted bolo lists before they take somebody into surgery there is a long checklist of things they look at. we think that's the way you organize your thinking. it's clear to me that a be on the lookout list is a good idea. so don't say you're going to throw them away. >> not be on the lookout for wanted terrorists. as you will recall the i are bolo lists included tea party and patriot. the irs a.g. says the lists included words like progressive but there is no evidence liberal groups were targeted. >>> on oh monday the son of a world war ii veteran wa

i just want to jump to, if i can, congressman mcdermott who apparently wasn't very moved.an assumption, i don't know, but his response was to say to her and the others to say look, your groups are highly political. you are all entrenched in some of the most controversial issues in the country. were you seeking to have the american public pay for your work, and why shouldn't you be subjected to scrutiny? >> let's be honest. what the representative did was ignore the fact that the aclu is a 501c4 as is planned parenthood and engaged in these activities and found these individuals shouldn't be asked for their exempt standard, so it was a double standard at best. what becky said is the resounding point. it is the government without check. we will find out who is responsible for this. at the end of the day when you hear from becky and 24 others in similar situations to hers you realize the intimidation factor coming out of the irs was incredible. and megyn, i think it goes one step further. the discouragement organizations face when they are under this scrutiny for no reason wh

if the bush administration had been going after media matters and these people, mcdermott would beenst one out there with the flaming torch. >> absolutely amazing. what he was doing was saying that because the individuals came to the irs and asked for that status that it was their fawg faulted that these things happened. that really was phenomenal. >> bill: do you talk to him though? do you say what are you doing, jim? >> sure. >> bill: what does he say? >> absolutely. as you know he is a far leguy. he says, look, we y'all are interested in conspiracies and all this stuff. the fact of the matter this was wrong what the irs did. i believe it to be illegal i believe we will prove that also important for people to concentrate and recognize that the irs is the enforcement arm for the affordable care act for obama ca we can't allow that toove forward. we have introduced a bill that will preclude the irgs from either implementing or enforcing any aspect of the aca. got a lot of tractiith it and hope it moves forward rapidly. >> bill: you will never get it through the senate you know that a

representative mcdermott was angry, condescending. blaming the victims. he was pointing his finger this guy was a piece of work. this is someone who represents america? this elected official. he ironically he is the reason you had the tea party in the first place. looking at poster-child for why we should, average american, i don't care what side of the aisle you're on. for you to come up there with heartwrenching stories and this guy to point a finger, you know what? it is your fault. you shouldn't have applied for it. by the way you haven't given us any suggestions. everything that came out of his mouth was really extraordinarily mean-spirited or completely off the mark. just to say, hey, show man, shulman, appointed by bush how could it be doing the bidding of the president. we know shulman's wife, right? most people may not. his wife susan anderson is a huge, huge lefty. she is involved with the company, thing called public campaign, occupy wall street. the point is, this guy was horrendous. he really was the reason that people actually rose up in the

on the targeting by the irs, what you see here is democrats, jim mcdermott featured there, trying to say look, no one condones this targeting. no one thinks this is the right place for the irs. but this was a mistake by a relatively small group of people. this was not a grand scheme to suppress conservative activity in the 2012 election and beyond. the question is, is that right or wrong. we certainly are going to have our fill of it by the end of the week. we'll have had six hearings between the senate and the house on the irs. my guess is we'll have more. now the question is, does more come out that suggests that affirms congressman mcdermott's point of view or refute it is. >> the inspector general report that came out details the egregious overspending on stupid stuff. and we're talking about the happiness expert. >> just take a look at some of the things we're putting it up on the screen now, kelly. the innovation expert. $17,000 for leadership through art? i mean it sounds like kindergarten, except at taxpayer expense. >> this goes back to a conference that was held in 2010 in

. >> i think there was one congressman, mcdermott, w said this was simply a mista is that simply unacceptable to you? >> yes, to idenfy it as simply a mke is to do a disservice to the moral issue. this is a fundamental american issue. the first amendment, they are there for a reason. it is a testament to how importthey are tour libertas determined by our founders. to say it is a mistake is also dismissive of of these organizations beuse we don't bring in a lot of money. i think at one poin the testimony, it was clear how little, how few dollars $2,000 here, $3,000 there. they make it. they demagogue us. we are mom and pop. >> what is your occupation? is this a full-time job for you? i'm an entertainment lawyer. i love what i do. for 21 years, i've been an entertainment lawyer. this has been a part-time and now a very small part-time side. n shop operation on the >> re you involved in politics before this or was the tea part your first step into this arena about issues? we are not tea ty but we do share pphical concerns with the tea party. we ct the expansion of the goernment and we jealously

i now recognize ranking member mcdermott for his opening statement. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. i want to welcome dr. reischau dr. reischauer. it seems like even a permanent fixture around here doing something ever since i came 25 years ago, so it's good to see you here today. one of the public witnesses and dr. blahous, thank you for your service as being willing to sit on the commission like this. i believe it's been a couple years since we've seen you before the committee and i look forward to hearing your thoughts today about what's going on. as in the past that you listen to my colleague, mr. brady, this hearing has usually been a hearing where there's been continual harping on medicare supposedly higher finances and scaring the public into believing that medicare is going bankrupt and it won't be there for you when you get to a certain age. every generation has been subjected to that since i've been in congress. it's not going to be here by the year ask. when i looked outside this morning as i got up, i could assure you this guy is not falling. the latest trustee

. >> greta: i think congressman mcdermott said that it was a mistake. was that fy unacceptable? >> to identify us as a mistake, this is a fundamental american issue. first amendment liberties for a reason. they are in the first amendment as a testament to how important they are to our liberties, but to say it's a ke is dismissive of all of these organizati because we don't zati -- we don't bring in a lot of money. at one poi the testimony, it was clear how little, how few dollars, $2,000 do $3,000 there. they demagogue us like we are a giant millions of dollars to fight the obama administration. we are mom and pop. >> greta:at is your occupation? this is a full-time job? >> i'm an entertainment lawyer, this has been a part-tiand a very small part-time, one-man shoperation on thendide. >> greta: so before this, were you involved in politics? or is the tea party your first step into this arena about issues? >> weis are not tea partying. but we share philosophical concerns. we jealously guard human liberty. i would say my philosophical journey started 10 or 12 years ago. >> a: what

let me go to congressman mcdermott. so we go into iraq to knock off -- well, we knock off a sunni government to put in a shiite government. and here we are in syria playing superman again, and we're going to knock off the government to put in a sunni government. are we going after one country after another deciding who should win. daring putin to come in and challenge us? because he has said he doesn't want to disturb the balance. what happens if we disturb the balance and he comes in to balance it from his end? >> well, chris, i feel like i'm watching deja vu all over again. the same kind of drumbeat to go into war in iraq is going on right now. and it is not clear who the rebels are. are the rebels al qaeda? are they shia backed by the iranians? who are they? until we know that, handing them weapons and exploding this situation in my view is not a good idea. i think the president should walk very carefully and very slowly, working with the russians and ramping up the efforts with the iranians. i think both of those si