"fox news sunday," guests include red and dennis mcdonagh. -- rand paul and dennis mcdonagh.face the nation" from cbs. bob schieffer welcomes mr. mcdonagh and congressman mike ustins, just in a mosh -- j amash, and elijah cummings. rebroadcasts of the shows begin at noon eastern with "meet the press." 1:00, "this week." sunday," "state of the union," and "face the nation." listen on 90.1 fm in the washington, d.c. area. syria --19 on xm sirius radio. download our up for your smartphone -- app for your smartphone, or listen online at www.c-span.org. >> wilson was so intellectual. he is the only president with a phd. as a result of that, most of the books written about him have been academic in nature. they have missed the very human side of this man. he was deeply emotional, passionate, romantic figure. he had two wives. when his first wife died, he courted and fell in love with a woman and married a second time. he wrote thousands of passionate love letters to each of these women. this was a real, living, breathing human being. i don't think we have seen that about woodrow wi

baltimore delegate at mcdonagh is wrapping up a conference urging lawmakers to reconsider the new common core curriculum. last thursday, a parent who spoke out was arrested. robert small was charged with assaulting an officer, but the charges were dropped. the school superintendent said she is glad prosecutors did not pursue charges of the school board will not make changes to how they conduct education board meetings. -- inbelieve having to answeropen session questions and staying after to answer individual questions. >> the last of four regional common core forms with take place next tuesday in prince george's county. still ahead, forensic experts called into kenya's westgate mall. how they will help with the investigation into the hostage standoff, and exclusive footage. >> mark my words -- >> why texas senator ted cruz has spent so much time talking on the senate floor, and why the speech might not produce juste talk on literally came to an end on the floor of the u.s. senate. senator ted cruz just wrapped up his remarks. he has been talking since tuesday afternoon. it is a filibuste

mcdonagh says he thinks congress will give him, give the president the approval. do you think so? >> well, i think it's an uphill slog from here. part of the problem was they started today or last week. they needed to start two weeks ago on this process, and haven't done it. they don't have strong relationships in congress today. that's a huge problem. and candidly have done an awful job explaining to the american people what is in our national security. what is in the national united states interest in any level of engagement in a place like syria. >> bob: i would just say at this point, that i don't know anybody who ks if the vote were held today that they would get this, that the congress m would go along? >> i can't disagree, and the only thing more cob fusing is their strategy to try and get by representatives in congress and the american people. it's a confusing mess to this point, and that has been their biggest challenge on what is an incredibly important issue. this cannot be about barack obama. it has to be what is in the best interest of the united states of america. we

. >> bob: let me ask you, you've heard dennis mcdonagh say, nobody rebuts the evidence. would you agree with that? >> nobody rebuts the information we've been presented at of briefings. but it's not as strong as the statements the approximate the and his mx*d agz have been making. i urged the administration in the most recent briefings, for example, to be more forward with the public about what the situation actually is. i think that there are some thing that is are being embellished in the public statements. i would ask the administration to be more forward with the public about this. we all need to have the information. i would also add that the briefings haven't given me comfort. the briefings have made me more skeptical about the situation. >> bob: let me ask both of you this. this is the bottom line. what do you think the fallout would be? what would the impact be? the president has drawn a red line, and then the united states is not able to deliver. what does that do to the credibility of the united states? >> i think it hurts to some degree. at the same time, the

very interestingly, too, dennis mcdonagh, chief of staff of the white house, tells chris wallace on fox news sunday, you don't know what's going on. you don't know how much we really know and we're about to get these guys. it's a year. how about you tell us? how about you let us know how close you are, what you have. because bob, you're ready to go kill someone in syria on one hand without all the information, but we're a year into this and allegedly a year into an investigation you have a lot going on behind the scenes and nothing's happening in benghazi. >> you benghazi conspiracy theorists first of all we don't know what's going on. you can't call it an injustice when you don't know what they're doing. >> i know we don't have the answers we should have, that it's taken way too long and they've been disrespectful to the dead. >> wait a minute. most conspiracy theorists said these people had to take polygraph tests, they didn't have to. now they'll be september to capitol hill where they'll be under oath. if they lie about not taking a polygraph they're subject to be indicted. the fact

secretary of state john kerry and defense secretary chuck hagel, the president first mentioned to mcdonagh the idea that he should go to both chambers of commerce even though they do not return to work. senior official acknowledge there was some division within the administration as the president held a two-hour oval office meeting at 7:00 p.m. and then placed calls later to kerry, hagel and biden. kerry had gone out on a limb and called for action. the senior officials insist kerry and the entire team came together in support of the plan in a meeting saturday morning. they want congressional buy-in. >> that i know the country will be stronger if we take this course and our actions will be even more effective. >> while the president called all four of the top congressional leaders. mitch mcconnell only staying president's role as commander in chief is always strengthened when he enjoys the express support of the congress. with polls showing the american public does not want more intervention than syria, in private, officials say they know there is a risk the votes may fail. the president h

. >> at 6:00 he goes for a walk in the south grounds with dennis mcdonagh, his chief of staff and callsurity council staff and they argue for two hours. >> yeah. yeah. no, it's quite remarkable. you know what -- and it is a mess and in the middle east it's being -- first of all, in the middle east in the nondemocratic states they think it's a ruse. get your congress to approve. you appointed them, right? so there's that level of confusion, but there's also this fear of dithering. there's this fear of hesitancy and of course there's a fear about what it means for the more important red line, the iran red line. can i just come back one quick second? >> sure. >> i think there's a misunderstanding about apac and this misunderstanding. apac would have been happy to stay out of this. you have a supreme irony which is that the white house has basically asked apac and these other organizations to come out and lobby for them. >> they're on opposite sides of everything. >> if you go to george bush today and tell him that lindsey graham, john mccain and apac are doing the president's bidding to bo

tuesday, this sunday on "meet the press "david gregory will interview white house chief of staff denis mcdonagh. coming up on "andrea mitchell reports" a region edge. we'll have a live report from beirut where the state department issued a new warning for americans abroad. lebanon has also been flooded with more than, get this, 700,000 syrian refugees. take a look at these pictures provided by nbc's aymen mohedin. he'll join us next to talk about it. [ female announcer ] a classic macaroni & cheese from stouffer's starts with freshly-made pasta, and 100% real cheddar cheese. but what makes stouffer's mac n' cheese best of all. that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. made with care for you or your family. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealth

speeches, he makes a decision to change direction on syria in a walk around the grounds with dennis mcdonaghief of staff, makes a question to answer about the fed when asked by charlie rose that he shouldn't have, because it set off a gender battle and political war over a position not politicized. >> less disciplined message and messenger in this white house through the president. as a candidate he manages to stick to his lines very well and has a force and a purpose to what he's saying. in the white house you're looking at a very messy situation. often the white house say it's because of events. some of these events are of their own creation. you have the president campaigning yesterday at the same time they delay key provisions for small businesses on health care. that's not about events. that's things in this white house's control. there's a discipline and a force that when you lose a david plouffe, who is a very disciplined character, then things don't sound and look the same. in this case you've got a candidate, in this case the president, who feels like changing his policy and message

. >> one of the reports today is that the chief of staff mcdonagh met with senate democrats, their caucusd the whole ball game is now diplomacy, not bombing. is that credible? do you think obama's going to make that case tonight? >> i think he's going to try to do a little bit of both. he's got to go to the american people and justify why he was beating the drums of war and bombing for the last week or so. in the face of this new diplomatic overture offered up by the russians. and so i think he'll try to split the baby a little bit on this and do it a willal bit of both and say, look, we'll take this diplomatic overture and we'll run with it. we're prepared to run with it, but orange will one so far if the russians and syrians aren't serious, then the bombing needs to be a farther -- >> he has to get a resolution through. that's why this is so darn tricky. >> it's hard. >> as john reported, there's no stomach for it right now. >> there isn't a stomach for that. >> the polls show that too. i'm not sure i get this. john harwood, you know, the president talks about and john kerry, this is li

late last night the white house chief of staff mcdonagh came up to capitol hill.k over what their goals will be in next couple of days. meanwhile republicans are having their own meetings, talking about the possibility of perhaps putting forward a one-week stop gap measure to keep the government fund for an extra week while they continue to haggle over thiz funding bill. there is, of course, another deadline looming right around the corner. just yesterday the treasury secretary jack lew sent a letter to the speaker of the house john boehner warning congress that the debt creeling will reach nod later than october 17th. that's just three weeks away and that on that date, quote, treasury would have only approximately $30 billion to meet our country's commitment. and, guys, that's not even enough to cover the social security payments that need to go out at the beginning of november. so far congressional leaders have done zero, zero negotiating over the debt ceiling they've been so torn up by this government funding fight. and so once they finish it if they finish it

earlier in that day, the chief of staff, dennis mcdonagh, will visit with house democrats trying to convince them. the democrats have been as challenging as any group to get on board with this because so many of them oppose the idea of intervention. as you have noted multiple times, it's an uphill battle this white house faces but one they're aggressively pursuing as they fan out the forces across television and to the capitol. >> this tuesday evening address that we've been talking about, what more will president obama say that he has not said yet publicly? >> reporter: it's a good question and they're not exactly revealing their hand on what exactly we expect to hear from the president. i think a lot of people believe that it would add value if the president revealed some of that which he has been showing or the administration has been showing in these classify briefings up on capitol hill. but based on the conversations i've been having, it appears pretty unlikely the president is going to detail anything new specifically. it's likely, i think, that the remarks he makes to a national audi

but if you're mcdonagh or obama or somebody else in the white house going to one of these members, you say, this is going to be limited. and nine months from now it will not seem like it seems now. this is going to last six days. nothing succeeds like success. we'll be in and out. people won't be thinking about this, it's not a nine-year engagement with iraq -- >> the problem is the administration doesn't have a good explanation about what actually happens after we strike. >> they're worried about that. >> rebel groups are forecast toured. there is a group of secular rebels who say john mccain meets with on a regular basis. there's no guarantee if we strike with cruise missiles, you know the signs you're seeing of service members holding up saying, i didn't join this navy to be an -- to fight for al qaeda. there's a real concern whatever we do is going to help people that ultimately will be fighting against us. for these member looking ahead saying, hey, we're pretty early in the cycle. there's no way to determine how this will turn out. if it goes badly, that could be a big problem. >

house is going to be kicking off a major public relations public sending their chief of staff dennis mcdonagh to every sunday show to make the case against the assad regime. something we've heard a lot of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle say is the majority of their constituent phone calls and e-mails are strongly opposed to entering another conflict in the middle east. so the white house is doing to change their minds today and hope they can convince those members of the public to sway their members of congress. because right now "the washington post" had the running tally of yeas and nays for syria action in their stay out of syria column which includes members that publicly vote no or leaning no when it comes to authorizing force against assad. already up to 223 members of that's half a dozen more than 217 votes needed to block passage. president obama has scheduled a national address for tuesday evening that will let him try to personally convince the american people that attacking assad is a good idea. but before that, tomorrow he's going to sit down with anchors from nbc, abc, cbs,