former white house counsel don mcgahn. the committee chairman, jerry nadler is going to be here live in just a couple of minutes. he's one of those two interviews we've lined up for the show tonight. mr. nadler and his committee clearly see this lawsuit they have just filed concerning don mcgahn's testimony, they clearly see this as kind of their big cuhoona. they believe this effort to force mcgahn to testify will not only succeed but if it does it'll essentially be the key that unlocks all the other witnesses they want to talk to. and that will thereby setup all the hearings they want to hold about the president's behavior. so those things are both happening sort of now all of a sudden. but one of the other things you should know about, what they've just done with this lawsuit is that for all the huffing and puffing and barrels of ink spilled and pointless panel conversations about whether or not president trump will be the next president to face impeachment, right, all the breath expended on whether or not the democrats

bush white house or don mcgahn under the current president. behoove you to keep in mind you are not a personal lawyer representing the president. you are the white house counsel. you represent the white house. you represent the office of the presidency. i mean presidents can hire personal lawyers, too, and they do. but the white house counsel, that is a public employee, and you answer to the people. well, today the judiciary committee and the house sued president trump's first white house counsel don mcgahn to compel him to obey a subpoena, to compel him to show up to testify before congress. don mcgahn of course is the key witness in the volume of the mueller report that's about the president potentially committing criminal obstruction of just. so congress is going to get to the bottle of the allegations in the mueller report. obviously they're going to want to hear from the key witness in the mueller report which is don mcgahn. the white house not surprisingly has told mcgahn he can't testify, he shouldn't testify. the president beyond that

donald trump asked don mcgahn to get rid of bob mueller. mcgahn refused.ews broke that he had told mcgahn to fire mueller and mcgahn had refused. trump said, mcgahn needs to send a letter saying that as well. mcgahn refused. number two, jeff sessions, much beleaguered attorney general of the united states. donald trump on multiple occasions, according to the mueller report asked mcgahn to unrecuse himself vis-a-vis the mueller investigation. remember, donald trump says the whole aren't mueller investigation happened is because jeff sessions recused himself. repeatedly asked him to unrecuse himself through intermediaries and sessions obviously refused. he was fired the day after the 2018 election. >>> let's go to the next one? gary kohn, senior economic adviser to trump. gary kohn was taking papers that donald trump signed regarding trade agreements off donald trump's desk, so he could not sign them, kohn believed trump would be doing damage not just to the u.s. economy, to his presidency and the country as well. the last example, jim mattis. we know he had

porter is one of the most cited sources after mcgahn in the mueller report.ratic congresswoman of florida, she sits on the house judiciary committee. congresswoman, we appreciate you taking the time this morning. >> good morning. >> so help our viewers out here who don't follow this every day who want to know, okay, what am i going to learn if rob porter and don mcgahn come before the committee? what am i going to learn i didn't raurld see in the mueller report? >> so most americans have not read the full mueller report and the mueller report states ten particular instances where the president committed obstruction of justice. and we need to bring in the most important fact witnesses. don mcgahn, the former white house counsel is a witness we had asked to come in front of the committee and the white house ordered him to not present himself, which is why we had to file that subpoena in the courts, which also while we're asking the courts to expedite the order so that we can actually hear from one of the most important witnesses. we also need to have rob porter

believe if the mcgahn lawsuit is successful?st critical witness for us to hear from and as we laid out in the complaint to the court for having mcgahn come in, it's not just for impeachment. that's important and holds the president accountable but lawrence, we are also considering what new laws we need to put in place to stop future presidents from doing something like this and the only way for us to consider that is a committee is to hear from mcgahn. what this is ultimately about is to not let donald trump again get away with a crime because he's obstructing. i think if you look at what mueller laid out, mueller said in his report that because witnesses including the president obstructed because they lied, because they tampered with evidence and destroyed evidence, because they refused to testify, they were not able to fully understand what happened in the russian investigation because the president is shielded from obstruction of justice charge. he wasn't held accountable there, either. we're the backstop here so we can't let

the white house has blocked mcgahn's testimony claiming, quote, absolute immunity.'s lawyer wrote in a statement this when faced with competing demands from coequal branches of government, don will follow the former client's instruction, absent a contrary decision from the federal judiciary. talk to me about the significance of this and the pushback we're gregt detting fr mcgahn. >> this could be a huge lawsuit because the courts never ruled on this issue of absolute immunity. only time a federal judge ever had a crack at it he said it didn't exist in the bush administration. but that did not come part of the case law. so no higher courts have ruled on it even though presidents from both parties, including president obama and clinton asserted this. they say congress cannot call me or my close advisers to testify, period. they're not exerting executive privilege, they're just saying he can't come up to testify. that's what's at stake here. it could mean the difference between the house getting a lot of witnesses to trump's conduct or none. >> so will he or won't he a

porter spoke to mcgahn.ter told mcgahn he had to write a letter to dispute that he was ever ordered to terminate the special counsel. mcgahn shrugged off the request, explaining that the media reports were true. mcgahn told porter that the president had been insistent on firing the special counsel and that porter planned to resign rather than carry out the order, although he had not personally told the president he intended to quit. porter told mcgahn that the president suggested that mcgahn would be fired if he did not write the letter. joining our discussion now is congressman raja morthi of ohio. thank you for joining us. >> absolutely. >> tell us how you came to your position on impeachment. >> i think last week chairman nadler formally requested the other committees of jurisdiction in the wide-ranging investigations of donald trump to produce any information that would bear on an impeachment investigation, so i decided that i wanted to support this particular process. i'm urging our committees, both the

the judge wouldn't have to decide if mcgahn just stepped up and volunteered to do his duty as a citizenwyer's standpoint, if i were representing him, that's a safe move. i would rather have my client be ordered by a judge to come forward and really protect him from criticism both ethically if there's any issues of privilege being asserted later, and also protect him of course politically as well. >> so if they don't get that judge's order, is the prospect of his testimony dead in the water? >> oh, i think so. if the judge doesn't go with them, there could be appeal from that obviously. but if the judge doesn't order him, i do not think mcgahn will testify. >> shan wu, always have to have your expertise. thanks very much. >> good to see you. >>> the search for the nation's top intelligence official, the director of national intelligence back to square one after president trump's first choice, john ratcliffe, abruptly withdrew from consideration. sources tell cnn that a wide array of candidates now under consideration by the president to replace the outgoing director dan coates who steps

that's why mcgahn's testimony is important.andows lewandowski, all of them need to testify so the public can assess for themselves who's telling the truth. >> august 2019 is much different than august as we look at 45 years ago with president nixon at the time. now that we have chairman nadler saying we are, as you saw in the interview, undertaking impeachment proceedings. what's been the change? has it -- has it begun well before his very statement, but it's a matter of the way he's labeling it. >> i think the label matters in terms of the court documents. so a court is much more likely to expedite the case. it almost has to expedite it in this circumstance. and it also prepares for the judicial proceeding that will allow, for example, in addition to the mcgahn testimony, the underlying grand jury transcripts are available to a judicial proceeding or preliminary to a judicial proceeding, and by labeling this impeachment, we now have a judicial proceeding for the courts to release the grand jury testimony and to order mcgahn an

democrats, they are asking a federal judge to force ex-white house counsel don mcgahn to testify. now get this, even though mcgahn denied he witnessed any violation of the law and that the president told him to, "cooperate fully with the special counsel." at this point, democrats, they don't want to hear the truth. for them, this is one ongoing never ending, every second, every minute of hour of every 24-hour day, political smear campaign. what are they ever going to do to help the american people? when are they going to serve their constituents? that's not going to happen until the 4,992nd investigation into finding no trump-russia collusion or obstruction of any kind. here with the very latest, fox news investigative reporter, sara carter. [no audio] their mind, they are just not going to have him talk to the committee. he's basically thwarting nadler's requests. it will appear that nadler will have a lot more fight in the courtroom before that happens. even if the judge does compel him to speak, nadler's attorneys are oppressed in saying that unless the white house changes thei

after don mcgahn.own to be a contemporaneous note-taker and his loyalty is a little bit questionable. he's the only person to be subpoenaed so far who is not a member of the trump campaign. and when he was interviewed for the job he said he was loyal to the office of the presidency. now, as we know, as i wrote in my piece for cnn.com, anna, he was in the room, he did grow very close to the president and he was in the room at very critical moments. most notably when the president had his big fallout with don mcgahn, asked don mcgahn to fire robert mueller. don mcgahn, according to a report in "the new york times," refused to threaten to resign. president trump asked rob porter to get into the middle of all of that. asked him to ask mcgahn to write a note to the file saying this never happened. so rob porter has potentially got a lot to say. >> okay. we'll see where it goes. thank you, vicki ward, for bringing us that reporting. that does it for me this hour. thank you for joining me. i'm ana cabrera. "t

the committee has gone into court to force don mcgahn to testify.ahn is the key fact witness. >> mentioned 500 times in the mueller report. >> mentioned 500 times in the mueller report. but he testified to mueller that he witnessed at least 10 instances of criminal obstruction of justice by the president. and so he is now the -- the mueller report is a summary of evidence. we want to get the direct evidence. we want his testimony as to those criminal obstructions of justice by the president. and we also want testimony from other people about other violations of law, about the -- you know, the mueller -- the hearing that we had gave the lie to three things the president and the attorney general were saying. they were saying the mueller report exonerated the president, that it showed no collusion with and no obstruction to the contrary all three statements are false. the report did not exonerate the president. the report shows considerable evidence of collusion -- that the. >> it didn't establish to a criminal level of conspiracy but there was evidenc

that evening, mcgahn called both priebus and bannon and told them that he intended to resign priebusled that mcgahn said that the president had asked him to, quote, 'do crazy [ bleep ].'" [ laughter ] >> seth: it is both great and weird to hear a curse word come out of elizabeth warren. [ laughter ] it's like watching a nun take a hit off a joint. [ laughter ] what they were reading into the record were details from the report on trump's various attempts to obstruct justice including ordering his former white house counsel don mcgahn to fire mueller. but trump has repeatedly insisted falsely without offering any details that article 2 of the constitution, which is about the executive branch, gives him the power to fire mueller and do whatever he wants. he's repeated that argument over and over including during a rambling speech yesterday. >> article 2 allows me to do whatever i want. article 2 would have allowed me to fire him. nobody ever mentions article 2 it gives me all of these rights at a level that nobody has ever seen before. we don't even talk about article 2. then i have an

mcgahn is our most important witness. he was a witness to obstruction of justice. the fact that he has been obstructed from appearing before us is even more obstruction of justice. this president now does things in the open, transparently. normally you think someone being transparent is being good. what he is doing and suggesting that witnesses not comply with requests for appearances to testify and/or for documents is really obstruction. and he is using the courts to do it in a legal way. but it is still obstruction. when he says he's going to take the g7, which he wants to make the g8 to doral, that is grifting but he is doing it transparently. he has gotten so used to getting his way and not letting the constitution, the law stand between him and his responsibilities of taking the oath that he just does it openly. it's unbelievable. >> when you talk about this issue of transparency, of course we will get into the g7 potentially being held at doral later in the show. but when it comes to this issue of transparency, what is your committee's next step if the judge,

. >> the house judiciary committee is trying to force testimony from don mcgahn.cgahn's testimony is essential when determining if president trump should be impeached. mcgahn will follow white house orders to refuse to testify unless a judge tells him to. >>> there are new concerns about vaping. something a lot of people do. what the fda is now looking at in a new investigation. ♪ work so hard ♪ give it everything you got ♪ strength of a lioness ♪ tough as a knot ♪ rocking the stage ♪ and we never gonna stop ♪ all strength, no sweat. ♪ just in case you forgot ♪ all strength. ♪ no sweat secret. all strength. no sweat. with three extrairst absorb channels.r they stay up to three times drier so babies can sleep soundly all night pampers let's cowboy up! exhilarating speed. woo! precision control. woo! maximum reliability. access denied. [ repeats ] access denied. if it's not xfinity xfi, it's not good enough. for wifi with super powers, get xfinity xfi. and go see, fast & furious presents, hobbs & shaw. now playing. >>> you walk down the street, you see a lot of peop

we are going from porter to mcgahn, it is a very busy day. say about the prospect of beginning an impeachment inquiry? >> i think it shows this committee is feeling the pressure to start an impeachment inquiry. just this summer alone, we've seen many other democrats come out in favor of impeachment. it is a growing sentiment. with every miss step president trump makes, it may not be related. however, i think there is a feeling of caution, mostly among speaker nancy pelosi who has cautioned others to take this slowly. other than the fact there are numerous democrats in other states where this is not a priority. we've seen a lot of republican retirements from the house. democrats would say it would be a shame if they were to lose based on that because of impeachment. >> let me get your thoughts on another headline from the g7 summit. president trump offering to hold the next g7 summit at one of his golf properties and how that might violate or spark renewed questions. >> it sparks a ton of questions over this clause. this is just president trum

is a civil enforcement issue.em that means the don mcgahn case has randomly been assigned to anotherhe court action could go well be on the 20 election. that timeline matters because it conflicts with chairman nadler's recent public statements about moving quicklyna and voting on impeachment before the end of the year. separately,ef a fox news review found that former special counsel investigators are having no trouble finding new jobs with prominent law firms, and prominent law schools, even securing a major book deal after the nearly two year probe ended with no rush or conspiracy or obstruction charges, mark. >> mark: thank you for that, catherine. my goodness, that judicial decision is almost too sane to be true. newly released deferment of justice documents reveal how nellie ohr of fusion gps transmitted material from the trump dossier to her husband, senior doj official bruce order. that information then, of course, filled with the federal government, percolated all the way through, and was used to taint to the trump administration with bogus insinuations of espionage before it

the trump administration is preventing mcgahn from testifying.here is a lot of calls for opening an impeachment inquiry that revolve around that obstruction of justice case as well as the president's corruption, reports of him profiting off the presidency and more. but there is a school of thought that the president's racist language itself is enough to trigger impeachment. that's the theory put forth by texas congressman al green, who in an impeachment resolution voted down last month specifically cited trump's comments attacking for democratic congresswomen of color as invaders, as a high misdemeanor warranting impeachment, trial and removal from office. >> in all of this, the aforementioned donald john trump has by his statements brought the high office of the president of the united states in contempt, ridicule, disgrace, and disrepute and has committed a high misdemeanor in office. >> joining me now is that congressman, al green, democrat from texas. congressman, do you see precedent in the u.s. and history for bringing articles of impeachme

monday's filings seek to compel testimony from former white house counsel don mcgahn, who has refusedth the committee subpoena claiming he has immunity. it reads in part, "on march 4th, 2019, the judiciary committee opened an investigation into threat to the rule of law, encompassing alleged obstruction of justice, public corruption, and other abuses of power by president trump, his associates, and members of his administration. this contradict recent claims from house speaker nancy pelosi and a chairman during nadler, who announced "formal impeachment proceedings" earlier this month. here is republican congressman andy biggs earlier. >> the chairman has been garbled on messaging, and what he wants to do. he has been wanting to impeach president trump literally since president trump won the election. don't forget we've had multiple resolutions in congress to do that. nadler supported all of those. but he needed to get this investigation going, and he basically started that in january when he became chairman. >> katie: the argument from democrats was that robert muir's report is what w

that's what don mcgahn's about. and they didn't want anyone like garland in there, because garland's a protector of the bureaucracy. that's what they call this, inside the project, you know? it was always going the to be gorsuch followed by kavanaugh. so gorsuch, i told the story earlier. the day gorsuch's hearing is in the hart building, the first day, some of you may remember his mother was the head of the epa who got involved in a scandal, forced out of a job, her life disintegrated after that. and gorsuch was at the same school as kavanaugh. and i'm sure for a kid in high school, this was a really disorienting thing. in the book i even talk about he went to his mother and said how can you quit, you know? you're being forced out. why would you quit? you told me not to be a quitter. so the day the hearings started, in the hearing room i was in the back with the white house guys who were shepherding him through, and i said, hey, i've got a theory about gorsuch. he's still really mad about what happened to his mothe

house judiciary committee is trying to force former white house counsel don mcgahn to testify. the panel suing in federal court hoping to make them comply with the subpoena. it is also challenging trump administration assertions of various privileges and immunities regarding former white house employees. former acting attorney general matt whitaker joins us live to tackle that legal debate along with talk of a timeline now for impeaching the president. matt whitaker, minutes away. painting all conservatives as violent white supremacists, what some of the mainstream media are saying tonight. we will debate where the country goes next. ♪ but, uh... what's up with your... partner? not again. limu that's your reflection. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ if you have moderate to thsevere rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. humira can help stop the clock. prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contrib

hire is what the law circumstance you can get don mcgahn's testimony, who was in white house only thereial, so where is that criminal trial? last i looked, there was no crime. lou: james comey, getting a pass, as you know i find that irksome. where is durham and his investigation? i actually expected greater energy in this. i'm not -- i was about to say, i caught myself before i could misstate something myself. i am an impatient person. but this is taking a long time. >> actually, lou, it is not. >> it is not. >> it is not. no, here is why is going on. durindurham has been asked to wa miracle after 3 years of incompetence with sessions, and rod rosenstein then mueller. now, durham is being asked to mop it up. he is moving with incredible speed, he has conducted more than 50 interviews of key personnel, and i'm going to tell you tonight, that james comey, and a lot of others will be sadsom come september, it will be a wonderful time for country for acuaccountability, and a bad tie for a lot of former obama people who broke the law. >> but we now have a justice department that is behaving

don mcgahn is no longer white house council and no longer there is the top seat of the judiciary committee. this process would have new people in charge. but i was told the new leadership and judiciary committee would approach this with very similar goals and styles as to mcgahn and grassley. >> for now, it is all speculation. the notorious rbg has no plans to retire. we wish her health and speedy recovery. thank you for joining us. still ahead, without any notice, u.s. immigration services has eliminated a deferred action plan and now migrants undergoing care could face deportation. >>> and a fine of comey violated policies but he wouldn't be prosecuted. how he's responding. those stories and another check onle the path of hurricane dorian. ♪ i planned each charted course ♪ ♪ each careful step ♪ along the byway ♪ much more ♪ much more than this ♪ i did it my way (announcer) verizon is america's most awarded network and the only one with the galaxy note10 5g. right now, when you buy one, you get a galaxy note10 free. that's verizon. [fa♪mers bell] (burke) a "rock and wreck." seen it. cover

. >> the house judiciary committee has filed suit against don mcgahn and a move to force him to testifyd to ongoing investigations the filing states that quote, mcgahn is the most important fact witness and its recommendation to articles of impeachment. the panel has also asked a federal judge to strike down the white house's continued claim that former aids are immune to subpoenas to testify. he stated this, when faced with competing demands, don will follow his former client's instruction. >> twitter has locked mcconnell's campaign at team mitch. took the punishment for the account sharing a video of protesters sharing threats outside his home. the video violated their violent threats policy and will only unlock if the campaign agreeds to remove the video. hours after the el paso shooting, they tweeted a picture from a fundraising event calling him, quote, grim reaper of socialism and fake tomb stones. >> let's take a turn now and check on the weather. >> give us some up lifting news, if possible. >> all the storms went through the northeast yesterday. a little better through the week

you can get don mcgahn's testimony whose in the white house only if there's a criminal trial and what it is you want is material to the issue at that trial, and where's the criminal trial? my goodness, last time i looked there was no crime. lou: and james comey, getting a pass and as you know to say the very least, but joe, where is durham and his investigation and i actually expect a greater energy in this and i'm not, i was about to say, i caught myself before i could misstate something myself. i am an impatient person but this is taking an awful long time. >> actually, lou, it's know the lou: like i said it's not. >> it's not. no. here is what's going on. durham has been asked to work a miracle after three years of in competence with sessions and rod rosenstein and mueller and now durham is being asked to mop it up. he is moving with incredible speed. he's conducted more than 50 interviews of key personnel, and i'm going to tell you tonight that james comey and a lot of other people are going to be very sad come september. it's going to be a very wonderful time for the country, for

. >> he mentioned the mueller report, the judiciary committee is suing don mcgahn, former white housesaying they want him to appear before the committee. he spoke for 30 hours to the mueller investigators. >> yes. >> and we all saw the report. what more do democrats on the committee want? >> i feel like we're in reruns. richard and i were on this show a few weeks ago talking about the exact same topic of impeachment. we keep bringing it up. the democrats keep stepping on the rake and insisting that we talk about it when it's not working for them. they can talk about don mcgahn, foe my nate about all of this stuff, we had two years of a thorough investigation, lop-150i8dedly democratic donor heavy mueller team. they came up with no evidence of collusion. they made no recommendation on obstruction. and we have all seen the mueller report, it's been out there for months at this point. the notion that jerry nadler and adam schiff are going to come up with new evidence on this front that mueller couldn't find? okay, guys, good luck. >> guy benson and richard fowler, hope we're not talking

i think if the people heard from mcgahn, and we're trying to get mcgahn to testify.e gone to court and judge jackson will have it in his court to order him to appear. but if he testifies, if deer born testifies and lewandowski testifies, the information that trump tried to obstruct justice might bring those numbers up to where they need to be. >> there are a lot of ifs there. we appreciate you taking your time this morning. >> you're welcome. >> it took five years for the nypd to fire the officer who used an illegal choke hold on eric garner. has justice been served now? we're going to discuss coming up. this is the couple who wanted to get away who used expedia to book the vacation rental which led to the discovery that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. expedia. everything you need to go. expedia. at vand look great. guarantee you'll see great "guarantee". we uh... we say that too. you gotta use "these" because we don't mean it. buy any pair at regular price, get one free. really. visionworks. see the difference. ( ♪ ) only tylenol® rapid release g

in a federal lawsuit, the house judiciary committee demanded that mcgahn obey a subpoena. it also rejected white houseas claims that heegal immunity against testifying. and, on wall street, stocks plunged initially, amid newar about the u.s.-china trade war, then battled their way back. the dow jones industrial average lost 22 points to close at 26,007. it had been down nearly 600 at one point. the nasdaq rose 29 points, and the s&p 500 added two. still to come on the newshour: leaders from both el paso and dayton react to the president's visit. democratic presidential candidate tom steyer on his top priorities. the high cost of healthcare has many americans seeking medical care ab mroad. and mue. >> woodruff: two views from the two cities struck by tragedy, and where the president visited today. william brangham has those. >> brangham: president trump's first stop today was in dayton, ohio, where a gunman killed nine people and wnded 26 others early sunday morning. ahead of his visit,ayor nan whaley said she felt it is her duty to welcome the president, but that she hoped

house democrats asking a court to hurry up and decide on what it will or won't make don mcgahn do.ommittee filing a motion to expedite a ruling on a lawsuit monday and compelling the former white house counsel to testify. mcgahn is the most cited witness in special counsel robert mueller's report on the president's potential obstruction of justice, and democrats view his testimony as crucial to building their case against the president. >>> you've got to love this one, former president jimmy carter ready to put hammer to nail once again in resuming work for habitat for humanity after hip surgery last spring. he'll help build 21 houses just months after hip surgery. he's undergone various other treatments, including treatment for cancer in 2015. tough dude. >>> secretary of state mike pompeo says he's done apologizing for what america stands for. pompeo just wrapped up a speech at the american legion convention in indiana where he told the audience ignore the critics, america is, get this, great. >> some of our leaders would say that the idea of america or of americanism means inher

first, why can't don mcgahn tell the white house to pound sand and that he's coming in to talk to us. these folks if they have nothing to hide, they'll cooperate with an investigation of this magnitude. that would help us make this determination sooner. second, obstructing congress is also an impeachable offense. the president should not benefit from telling these folks don't come forward, don't cooperate, and then say you don't have anything because he's obstructed us. that's something we can hold him to account on. >> and let's get to new details about the president's trip to el paso. a source says none of the eight patients accepted the offer to meet with the president, they had to invite two patients already discharged back to the hospital. what does that say to you about this visit yesterday? >> it was unnecessary, i hate to say that because during times like these whether it was president george h.w. bush going to miami after hurricane andrew, president clinton going to oklahoma city after the bombing there, presidents pull our country together, and every time this president see

judiciary committee filed a new lawsuit of their own be identifying mcgahn as the most important fact in its consideration whether to recommend, yes, articles of impeachment. now, the court's decision on that could open the floodgates to many others who might be stonewalling the congress and their probe or quasi impeachment probe depending who you ask. this lawsuit cites impeachment as argument. a majority of the house democratic caucus backs an impeachment inquiry. here's chairman nadler on the timeline. >> articles of impeachment. we could get to that in the latter part of the year. >> i'm joined by former federal prosecutor john flannery. good to see you, sir. >> good to see you. >> as i mentioned to viewers, there's a lot going on. in a different week, this would be the biggest story in the world. a year ago, the person who office standing next to james comey as the deputy in a firing that many folks saw as potential high crimes now basically punching back and suing there administration. that's huge. of course, there's a lot of other stuff going on. that's how i'm viewing it. what

mcgahn whenever he was face to face with the president would write memoranda afterward because he wasouldn't lie afterward. so those two things can be true. yes, comey might have behaved in a manner that wasn't entirely appropriate, but also the conduct of the president was so problematic that people behaved in a remarkable way. >> well, that's basically the argument that comey's been making all along. extraordinary times or alarming times, as he would say, calls for extraordinary measures. but the inspector general's report addresses this which says, there are systems to go through if you have problems with the way things are happening. >> yeah, i think one of the fascinating things about this is that comey definitely saw himself almost as a whistleblower here. but if you look at the way this went down, i understand the instinct that i think relates to what elliott was talking about which was to take those documents and almost make sure an insurance policy, the president just fired me, something is going on, he's trying to impair a investigation. i'm going to take them with me. it's

does trump, we know he asked don mcgahn look into how he would process jim comey and hillary clinton, mcghan served as sort of a guardrail. what is the war on justice 2.0 now that he's got an ally like bill barr there? now that we have some of these investigations winding up, does trump take his toys and go home, lit jim comey live his life? doesn't seem very trumpian. >> sure, it doesn't. that's a great question. we don't exactly know and there is a big difference between trump's rhetoric and his tweets and the potential power he has as president of the united states to either overtly order an investigation or to encourage a culture where his subordinates investigate people who he think are the deep state rivals working against him. i think you can be sure we will continue to see sort of imperpetuity, anti-comey tweets and states and dements and gaggles and potentially chants at rallies whenever the mood strikes the president. the question is if he stops at rhetoric or tries to look to a now very friendly department of justice from that point of view and push it further. it is notabl

you can, however, hear donald trump saying what he said about don mcgahn.y now we know he's going to say, i hereby order you not to appear. he will fight that tooth and nail as he fought the others. >> to that point, john, i'm curious to get your thoughts and to play devil's advocate here for a moment. you can almost hear that the white house is going to say, look, this has already been adjudicated with the mueller report. this is over. stop wasting your time. what do you say to that potential response coming out of the white house? >> well, it's been adjudicated against the white house, for one thing, because trump apparently had this mantra of sessions, unrecuse yourself, unrecuse yourself. that's why he was trying to reach out for rachel brand to become the new a.g. and she could control the special counsel. twice with porter present in the room, he -- that is trump -- said to sessions, you know, i'd like to kill this investigation of me and i'd like you to go look at hillary again. and on top of that, what you have is rob porter making notes, and he had

of 2016ed in spring with don mcgahn helping with very strong input from the federalist society and the heritage foundation creating that list of judges that president trump issued to instill confidence in some of the more establishment republican voters. it obviously did the trick. this is why we have the vacancy of antonin scalia a pending. on the lower courts, there have been a record number of appointments to the very powerful appeals court posts. through the former white house counsel don mcgahn in league with leonard leo of the federalist society of just screening people looking for developing teams at the district court level, the appeals court level for the supreme court. by putting out lists of names and encouraging people to buy thethese positions, opinions we are seeing generated below. many of these people would probably be ruling and writing as they are doing, but there is a lot of attention getting opinions in the lower courts that are almost designed to play two people from the federalist society that would be looking for folks to move up in sequence. i went to new orlean

and bottle rockets in his car authorities say cent he know william mcgahn's motive isn't known. but he had been interested in conflicting violent ideologies. the fbi says it's treating the shooting as an act of domestic terrorism. >>surprisingly domestic terrorism is not a federal offense. our washington correspondent alexander limo tells us there is now push to make domestic terrorism across but some fear it will hurt communities of color. >>i'm very glad that department of justice and the fbi are treating this as domestic terrorism, the texas senator ted cruz is talking about the el paso shooting. >>but right now federal prosecutors cannot actually charge someone with domestic terrorism. the fbi agents association wants congress to make domestic terrorism. a federal crime when you did. >>make sure we can do all we can to deter individuals and hold accountable any individuals in the united states, sinking to bring terror against our fellow. >>citizens california congressman eric swalwell supports the effort, i'm concerned that right now minorities are being targeted by white na

so the mcgahn case has been assigned to another federal judge and the court action could go beyond theection. that conflicts with chairman nadler's public statements about moving quickly and voting on impeachment before the end of the year. a fox news review that special counsel investigators are having no problem finding jobs with no obstruction charges. >> thank you. my goodness. that's judicial decision is almost too sane to be true. department of justice documents reveal how nearly all of fusion gps transmitted material from the trump dossier to her husband. a senior doj official bruce ohr. that filled the federal government. percolated all the way through and was used to taint the trump administration with bogus accusations of espionage before it was sworn in. tom is the president of judicial watch. they obtained those documents. he joins us now. tom, this nexus between one woman working for a group that is working for the clinton campaign who is married to a senior figure in the government. this is basically a classic banana republic stuff. it's the merger of the party and the st