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so mcgann has played this role. one of the interesting questions raised by this letter, the letter itself is fascinating. but how much is don mcgann willing to swallow in his job as counsel? he is constantly being noticed. mcgann we've seen in story after story is left in the dust by the president. and you know, i hadn't heard the lester holt interview for quite some time. when you hear it fresh, it is one of the most extraordinary things i've ever heard a president admit. >> particularly, what is so crazy about this set of facts before us, to glen's point, when you hear the lester holt interview fresh, particularly in the days leading up to it, and police italy saying this was done on recommendation. the vice president saying that. the entire way it was gone about was one of arti face is bad faith. >> we haven't seen the letter but it seems to be an invaluable window into what the president was thinking and the lead-up to his firing of comey. my sources have told me that rod rosenstein was absolutely livid with the
so mcgann has played this role. one of the interesting questions raised by this letter, the letter itself is fascinating. but how much is don mcgann willing to swallow in his job as counsel? he is constantly being noticed. mcgann we've seen in story after story is left in the dust by the president. and you know, i hadn't heard the lester holt interview for quite some time. when you hear it fresh, it is one of the most extraordinary things i've ever heard a president admit. >>...
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privilege over mcgann or allow mcgann to freely speak with the special prosecutor.cgann is important to all of this stuff because his was involved in all of these decisions that were in the list of information that we wrote about today. the firing of comey, the firing of flynn, how to deal with questions about russian meddling in the election. and if someone like mcgann can speak to what the president was thinking but at the same time it's hard to believe that a judge would ever allow you to use a lawyer to speak to the intent of someone. so it's a difficult question and something that the folks in the white house are continuing to wrestle with. >> well these are box office reports tonight. very little time for paul and for natasha but i do want your thoughts as a prosecutor paul and one who covers business. each of you quickly. give me your assessment of what you've heard tonight in these two reports, basically the one that seems to be focused on on instruction of j obstruction of justice by the president. >> tens of thousands of documents subpoenaed, two grand jur
privilege over mcgann or allow mcgann to freely speak with the special prosecutor.cgann is important to all of this stuff because his was involved in all of these decisions that were in the list of information that we wrote about today. the firing of comey, the firing of flynn, how to deal with questions about russian meddling in the election. and if someone like mcgann can speak to what the president was thinking but at the same time it's hard to believe that a judge would ever allow you to...
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priebus and mcgann are facing demands to testify under oath before mueller. this new story suggests bannon will be next. he was part of this decision. part of the reversal and as he man who recently said firing comey was the worst decision in modern political history. maybe steve bannon knew as this report suggests that the russia firing of jim comey was just the tip of the iceberg. i begin now, you spent nine years asser prosecutor and counsel to new york city mayor bill de blasio. you look at this account. what do you think of those aides intervening to prevent the firing of jeff sessions? >> are the real question raised by that, what reasons did they give the president for keeping jeff sessions around? i mean, the "times" mention that had there was a political congratulations. but what exactly did they say? what other reasons did they give? what dreens the president reject? what was he saying in response to them? every word he says and every word they say to him is going to be dissected by mueller and his team. because it would be evidence of the president
priebus and mcgann are facing demands to testify under oath before mueller. this new story suggests bannon will be next. he was part of this decision. part of the reversal and as he man who recently said firing comey was the worst decision in modern political history. maybe steve bannon knew as this report suggests that the russia firing of jim comey was just the tip of the iceberg. i begin now, you spent nine years asser prosecutor and counsel to new york city mayor bill de blasio. you look at...
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cobb was heard talking about a white house lawyer he deemed a mcgann spy and mr.s locked in his safe that he seemed to suggest he wanted access to. we have no clue what those documents might be, why would you put documents in a safe? what might this signal to you? >> honestly, i get as soon as i read that, i saw this will look good in a news story, but i fully expect things to be locked down in the white house, and it doesn't mean everything and it sure beats a server in the bathroom, right? >> what would he be so worried about? he comes from a school of thought that says let's hand over as many documents as possible. >> sure. presumably, you would use a safe for original, for starters of whatever the document at issue is, but he's the white house counsel. there are a lot of originals that are going to pass through that office and i don't -- i'm not at all surprised by that. i get why it looks salacious, but one of the problems with this very public conversation between lawyers is later on when there are discovery disputes this occur in the various cases that migh
cobb was heard talking about a white house lawyer he deemed a mcgann spy and mr.s locked in his safe that he seemed to suggest he wanted access to. we have no clue what those documents might be, why would you put documents in a safe? what might this signal to you? >> honestly, i get as soon as i read that, i saw this will look good in a news story, but i fully expect things to be locked down in the white house, and it doesn't mean everything and it sure beats a server in the bathroom,...
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kasie just brought up don mcgann and very briefly, you've had issues with don mcgann as have others. i've heard a lot of things about don mcgann acting in ways that most white house legal counsel wouldn't act. >> white house counsel for any president is a tough job. he has been put under a lot of pressure even before all the investigation and independent counsel. these new outside lawyers and inside lawyer, ty cobb, they've got their own agendas. it's complicated and it sets the table for a steak lunch. >> now the table is set, mama mika. go ahead and say grace. >> why did he have to jump? >> maybe -- i don't know. anyway, we apologize to don mcgann for that video. white house counsel don mcgann and ty cobb have reportedly argued. >> many requested e-mails and documents in hopes of ending the investigation. >> that's not going to happen. >> he has expressed worry about setting a precedent that would weaken the white house long after president trump's tenure is over. then this. cobb was overheard by a reporter of "the new york times" discussing the dispute during a lunchtime conversat
kasie just brought up don mcgann and very briefly, you've had issues with don mcgann as have others. i've heard a lot of things about don mcgann acting in ways that most white house legal counsel wouldn't act. >> white house counsel for any president is a tough job. he has been put under a lot of pressure even before all the investigation and independent counsel. these new outside lawyers and inside lawyer, ty cobb, they've got their own agendas. it's complicated and it sets the table for...
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the "times" says white house counsel don mcgann opposed sending the letter and ultimately a differenteputy attorney general rod rosenstein was sent. the rosenstein memo faulted the former fbi chief for his handling of the clinton email investigation. the white house wouldn't confirm the existence of president trump's letter, but says his lawyers are working with mueller. >> to the extent the special prosecutor is interested in these matters, we will be fully transparent with his investigation and frankly i don't have anything to add beyond that. >> the letter disclosing president trump's true intentions comes as the president's lawyers are making the case to muler in meetings and memos that the president did not obstruct justice when he fired fbi director comey in may. a source familiar with the memos says the legal team lays out the president's constitutional right to fire for any reason. and argues that comey's questionable credibility prompted the firing. but it was the president himself who admitted to nbc that he fired comey in part because of the russia investigation. >> in fact
the "times" says white house counsel don mcgann opposed sending the letter and ultimately a differenteputy attorney general rod rosenstein was sent. the rosenstein memo faulted the former fbi chief for his handling of the clinton email investigation. the white house wouldn't confirm the existence of president trump's letter, but says his lawyers are working with mueller. >> to the extent the special prosecutor is interested in these matters, we will be fully transparent with his...
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, and miller, and that mcgann gave miller a marked up copy of the letter highlighting several sectionsneeded to be removed. later, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein was reportedly given a copy of the original letter and agreed to write a separate memo for trump about why comey should be fired. that centered on his handling of the clinton e-mail investigation and became the administration's public rationale until the president undercut it days later. take a listen. >> regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey, knowing there was no good time to do it. in fact, when i decided to just do it, i said to myself -- i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made up story. it's an excuse by the democrats for having lost an election that they should have won. >> responding to another report about the draft, white house special counsel ty cobb said the letter which, in fact, contained detailed views which the president presented for comment from senior staff was the president's is wholly exonerating and has been with the special counsel for some time. its ex
, and miller, and that mcgann gave miller a marked up copy of the letter highlighting several sectionsneeded to be removed. later, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein was reportedly given a copy of the original letter and agreed to write a separate memo for trump about why comey should be fired. that centered on his handling of the clinton e-mail investigation and became the administration's public rationale until the president undercut it days later. take a listen. >> regardless of...
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that may have looked like and mcgann did work on that letter, and come to find out, that appears tod out. >> to be clear, the president has made public comments about this in an interview with nbc news. he said that it was comey's handling of the russia investigation. so he's even telegraphed that to some degree. susan hennessey, you cover this very closely. as you look at this, in effect we're getting clues as to where the special counsel's investigation is headed. what does this tell you about the direction of bob mueller right now? >> all right, so one of the hardest elements of an obstruction charge to prove is the mental state. it allegedly sort of lays out exactly what the president was thinking was potentially, legally problematic. that's going to be really significant. in terms of what we might be able to sort of glean about where the special counsel investigation is going, we also saw reporting yesterday in the "wall street journal" about the series of memos the trump legal team had sent to mueller's team. they seemed to be focused on obstruction of justice as the primary i
that may have looked like and mcgann did work on that letter, and come to find out, that appears tod out. >> to be clear, the president has made public comments about this in an interview with nbc news. he said that it was comey's handling of the russia investigation. so he's even telegraphed that to some degree. susan hennessey, you cover this very closely. as you look at this, in effect we're getting clues as to where the special counsel's investigation is headed. what does this tell...
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cobb sneaks about another white house lawyer and says, i think he's like a mcgann spy. one point they referred to jared kushner, were you surprised, ken at the tone, the volume, any of it? >> yeah, absolutely, i was certainly surprised that this conversation continued to get into more and more sensitive areas. i was surprised they were having the conversation in a setting where they could be easily overheard. not just by me. there are people walking by, it's literally, as richard suggested. it's right next door to the times d.c. bureau, like less than 200 feet. . not the best place to have this conversation. i was also surprised by the degree to which some of these disputes that you would imagine lawyers in this type of situation would be debating, particularly lawyers who are representing clients who while they are on the same side ostensibly may have competing comparatives. i was surprised by how personal some of the disputes appeared to have gotten and the degree to which disrupt and suspicion had seeped into their dealings. >> trust and suspicion. are the worst word
cobb sneaks about another white house lawyer and says, i think he's like a mcgann spy. one point they referred to jared kushner, were you surprised, ken at the tone, the volume, any of it? >> yeah, absolutely, i was certainly surprised that this conversation continued to get into more and more sensitive areas. i was surprised they were having the conversation in a setting where they could be easily overheard. not just by me. there are people walking by, it's literally, as richard...
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many mcgann then arranged for the president to meet with jeff jeff sessionss to discuss firing james comey. during that meeting with the president, mr. rosenstein was given a copy of the trump/miller letter. mr. rosenstein agreed to write his own memo about why comey should be fired. that memo was release bid the white house when comey was fired. there are several ways that the special prosecuter could have obtained the trump/miller letter, but you don't have to think about it very long to realize that the most likely way and the easiest way is the deputy general rod rosenstein simply five mueller his copy knowing it's relevant to the special probation report's investigation. joining us now, david from, and also jed sugarman professor of law, and neer a tenra. here is the confirmation that when the president made what is probably so far for him anyway, in his own future, the worst decision of his presidency firing james comey, it was on the advice of the junior most people in the white house in terms of experience who have the senior most positions, apparently. his daughter, his son-
many mcgann then arranged for the president to meet with jeff jeff sessionss to discuss firing james comey. during that meeting with the president, mr. rosenstein was given a copy of the trump/miller letter. mr. rosenstein agreed to write his own memo about why comey should be fired. that memo was release bid the white house when comey was fired. there are several ways that the special prosecuter could have obtained the trump/miller letter, but you don't have to think about it very long to...
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. >> my white house counsel, don mcgann, came back to me. he didn't make it sound like he was, and she actually didn't make it spound way either in the hearings the other day. like it had to be done immediately. this man has served for many years. he's a general. in my opinion, a very good person. >> so to be clear, olivia, the man he's talking about, don mcgann, has now caught grand jury subpoena, or least an fbi subpoena from mueller so we may be hearing that side of the story. and whether trump was fixated on flynn. >> certainly. donald trump has by all accounts, every one i've spoken to, great affection. he didn't want to fire him. it was just this cascade of events that sort of forced his hand and forced him to fire michael flynn. wasn't as though he looked around and he said he will be a problem for us. perhaps he shouldn't be in the white house. in all of these important meetings, getting all of this important information. the pressure became so intense that he was forced to fire him. and i think that tells you a lot about how he feel
. >> my white house counsel, don mcgann, came back to me. he didn't make it sound like he was, and she actually didn't make it spound way either in the hearings the other day. like it had to be done immediately. this man has served for many years. he's a general. in my opinion, a very good person. >> so to be clear, olivia, the man he's talking about, don mcgann, has now caught grand jury subpoena, or least an fbi subpoena from mueller so we may be hearing that side of the story....
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the white house counsel had to hire his own lawyer to defend himself in the russia matter but don mcgann needs it. he is particularly going to need good legal advice if the over heard conversation at a steak house last week between two of the president's lawyers, if that bears out and white house counsel don mcgann is hiding documents in a safe to keep rob burt muller from getting them. he is going to have a bear of a legal fight on his hands if he tries to resist handing over documents or giving testimony to the muller inquiry on the basis of the fact he's white house counsel and shouldn't have to talk. that the an argument you could definitely litigate but he's not likely to win it. and nobody you would know would like to fund a legal fight like that because it will go to the mattresses. and how about old mike pence? mike pence the vice president has retained a very good, very expensive d.c. lawyer. it clear that mike pence needs one. he has made multiple false public statements about many of the key matters that appear to be under investigation including the firing of james comey and
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mcgann becomes very concerned by what he sees in the memo.nd begins an effort to stop the president from sending the letter. >> the president's instinct was to put down in writing i fired you because of the russia investigation. many pointed to his comments to lester holt where he said it was about russia as a path that could lead bob mueller to obstruction of justice. >> exactly. i think this is why mcgann's instringt was to stop him from sending the letter. the white house special counsel pushed back on this idea that this letter was problematic at all in fact he said there was little or no pushback in the white house when trump was drafting it. at the same time "the new york times" reported that mcgann took the letter, made heavy edits and gave it back to miller. and then it was given to the doj. it's hard to believe that there was really no problem with this letter. >> again, julia, there can be no question that the president's instinct and what his intent was was to fire comey because of russia. we now have a draft letter. he was dictati
mcgann becomes very concerned by what he sees in the memo.nd begins an effort to stop the president from sending the letter. >> the president's instinct was to put down in writing i fired you because of the russia investigation. many pointed to his comments to lester holt where he said it was about russia as a path that could lead bob mueller to obstruction of justice. >> exactly. i think this is why mcgann's instringt was to stop him from sending the letter. the white house special...
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what more do we know about why the white house counsel mcgann may have had issue with the contents of that letter? >> you're right about stephen miller. he's a fire brand aide, one of the architects behind the travel ban and some of to strict immigration proposals. the president had been stewing for days if not weeks about fbi director comey in particular that he would not say publicly what the president said he had been telling him privately. that the president himself was not under investigation in terms of the russian interference in last year's election. he -- that was the thesis of the behind the letter, like "the times" we have not seen it ourselves but we know not just mcgann but others said this could be a problem. we don't want to go down this road. let's substitute a different rationale for dismissing comey which is a decision that trump had already reached. >> how much of this letter is thought to have to do with russia, michael? >> well, that's the thing. i mean, we know that at least one part of the letter holds up. that's the letter that's a part that's actually in the f
what more do we know about why the white house counsel mcgann may have had issue with the contents of that letter? >> you're right about stephen miller. he's a fire brand aide, one of the architects behind the travel ban and some of to strict immigration proposals. the president had been stewing for days if not weeks about fbi director comey in particular that he would not say publicly what the president said he had been telling him privately. that the president himself was not under...
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give mueller as many documents as possible in hopes of getting the investigation over with, while mcgannries about "setting a precedent that would weaken the white house long after mr. trump's tenure is over." yes, that's how trump's going to weaken the white house: too much honesty. ( laughter ) that is kind of ieresting news. how did we learn this? truly true? well,ly learned it straight from the mouth of trump lawyer and frontier dentist who's all gussied up for the barn dance, ty cobb. a "new york times" reporter overheard cobb talking about the russia probe at a washington steakhouse. either that, or the reporter confused cobb with the steakhouse's mascot. how careless is this guy? you're a lawyer mouthing off in public where anyone can hear you? that's like your therapist going out in the waiting room and announcing "guess who's having sex dreams about his cousin again?" pretty racy stuff." ( laughter ) but running his mouth in public isn't the biggest mistake made by trump lawyer and wilfred brimley tribute head, ty cobb. cobb's biggest blunder is that the steakhouse is "on the sa
give mueller as many documents as possible in hopes of getting the investigation over with, while mcgannries about "setting a precedent that would weaken the white house long after mr. trump's tenure is over." yes, that's how trump's going to weaken the white house: too much honesty. ( laughter ) that is kind of ieresting news. how did we learn this? truly true? well,ly learned it straight from the mouth of trump lawyer and frontier dentist who's all gussied up for the barn dance, ty...
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they said it was don mcgann that recommended the firing, how does this factor into the okay instruction if the president fired james comey to put a stop to the russia investigation or the russia investigation, he is guilty of obstruction of justice which is a very serious crime. if the president fired james comby for another reason. disorganization of the fbi or something else, then the president is okay. it all turned on why president trump fired james comey. and this letter, might have some very good information on that. we have not seen the letter. so we don't know what is in it. but it appears that this letter is quite different than the ration rationale that was used by the justice department to recommend the firing of james comey. steven miller advised the president on how to draft it. and it is a situation that could lead to an obstruction of justice charge. it is interesting that steven miller is still around here. he was an alt-right person we expected to be fired weeks ago. . i think he knows too much. >> richard, the president's lawyers have been meeting with robert mueller a
they said it was don mcgann that recommended the firing, how does this factor into the okay instruction if the president fired james comey to put a stop to the russia investigation or the russia investigation, he is guilty of obstruction of justice which is a very serious crime. if the president fired james comby for another reason. disorganization of the fbi or something else, then the president is okay. it all turned on why president trump fired james comey. and this letter, might have some...
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lunch conversation, the president's outside counsel ty cobb, don mcgann. sources insisted the discussion was not that big a deal. the family of former national security advisor mike flynn launched a legal defense fund to cover bills. now rising into the seven figures. the launch, apparently the first among former trump advisors, marks the development in russia probe. slane's younger brother said the retired general is not wealthy. allegations he worked against national security interests are difficult. >> my brother michael bleeds red, white, and blue. he is a proud guy. he held high offices in his life. he sacrificed much of his adult life, most of his adult life for this country. a three-star general, highly decorated. he is in a situation that he didn't anticipate, didn't expect. it's difficult. >> one former trump campaign aide says his legal fees are in the six figures and he's not considered a witness -- he is considered a witness or not a target. >> bret: thank you. the american students attacked with acid at a french train station yesterday are for
lunch conversation, the president's outside counsel ty cobb, don mcgann. sources insisted the discussion was not that big a deal. the family of former national security advisor mike flynn launched a legal defense fund to cover bills. now rising into the seven figures. the launch, apparently the first among former trump advisors, marks the development in russia probe. slane's younger brother said the retired general is not wealthy. allegations he worked against national security interests are...
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attorneys and the white house, ty cobb, who is the the presidents, and the chief white house counsel, mcgann, who cannot give all the documents, because what if we have two have executive privileges but down the road. ty cobb is at the point, we have to get all this stuff out there in off the table, because what is going on with the russian investigation? it's impeding that president's ability to deal with russia on the north korea issue. there's some really difficult points at the white house. >> neil: why are they going to this? speak i do not know why iran's, and we will hear from him. after he is slapped by the president. >> neil: but emmanuel macron... that is the extent of my french. his is much better. can we trust the united nations to deal with north korea and iran? general, to this point we do not have the russian leader or the chinese leader there. it might just be scheduling conflicts, but those are two big missing leaders. >> that is not unusual. vladimir putin went almost ten years, and the chinese leader is often on. this is not the place where the stuff gets done. let's be fr
attorneys and the white house, ty cobb, who is the the presidents, and the chief white house counsel, mcgann, who cannot give all the documents, because what if we have two have executive privileges but down the road. ty cobb is at the point, we have to get all this stuff out there in off the table, because what is going on with the russian investigation? it's impeding that president's ability to deal with russia on the north korea issue. there's some really difficult points at the white house....
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what is it that don mcgann has in his possession if anything that he is does not want people to see andt want people to see that? there is been some speculation that he could become a focus of the investigation. what role did he have and perhaps obstruction of justice. >> shepard: you are not allowed to keep documents in a safe in the middle of this. that is a long and short of it. >> right, right. look, it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. i wonder where the president is at this. sources inside and say anything if it were made, and simple as a traffic report and my lawyers are talking about it in open form, the first thing, very first thing i would do is find the lawyers. you cannot do that. the president cannot be pleased. >> he can't be, especially someone who is spoken so extensively on leaks. this is a leak happening out in the open, right outside the offices of "the new york times" which is a couple blocks from the white house. all right. you cannot be too happy about it. >> shepard: it would be h seem to hear when that comes out, because a well. thank you, sir. dozens
what is it that don mcgann has in his possession if anything that he is does not want people to see andt want people to see that? there is been some speculation that he could become a focus of the investigation. what role did he have and perhaps obstruction of justice. >> shepard: you are not allowed to keep documents in a safe in the middle of this. that is a long and short of it. >> right, right. look, it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. i wonder where the president is...
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directly to fbi director james comey would potentially hurt donald trump if it came to the point where mcgann to come before a federal grand jury and testify. the reason he decided to block trump from sending that letter. then the lawyer wrote ty cobb wrote me an e-mail saying he made interesting points, he said there was little or no push back to this letter and that trump actually wrote the letter right after lit ening to james comey's testimony on may 3rd. that raised interesting questions as well. that would then indicate he was -- he wrote the letter and made the decision to terminate james comey's tenure at the fbi before rod rosenstein and jeff sessions wrote their own memo on why comey was unfit to lead. i asked if that letter was not problematic, why didn't the white house decide to send to james comey directly, why did they instead send to the doj. his response was are you on drugs. have you read anything else about this. he would not then explain what he thought was inaccurate about my reporting and would not answer my questions any further. >> first he had a rather, you know, matt
directly to fbi director james comey would potentially hurt donald trump if it came to the point where mcgann to come before a federal grand jury and testify. the reason he decided to block trump from sending that letter. then the lawyer wrote ty cobb wrote me an e-mail saying he made interesting points, he said there was little or no push back to this letter and that trump actually wrote the letter right after lit ening to james comey's testimony on may 3rd. that raised interesting questions...
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we learned friday that don mcgann is one of six russia wants to question and now sure as a bruce follise follows a ba we have news don had to get his own lawyer. he's hired a high-powered washington lawyer to represent him on the russia issue. and so have two other people on robert mueller's reported interview list. reince priebus and communications director hope hicks. don, hope hicks have hired their own expensive washington lawyers now on russia. and you know, when the special counsel wants to enter you you, you probably want to get a lawyer no matter what if you expect a friendly chat about the rosoto recipe, you probably still want legal advice if you talk to the special counsel no matter what. what is the special counsel going to be talking about? we're not sure but based on reporting from "the washington post." the special counsel appears to be interested in the crafting of the false statement about the trump tower meeting that involved donald trump junior, paul manmanafort. that was falsely explained by the white house as being just about adoptions. the special counsel also appea
we learned friday that don mcgann is one of six russia wants to question and now sure as a bruce follise follows a ba we have news don had to get his own lawyer. he's hired a high-powered washington lawyer to represent him on the russia issue. and so have two other people on robert mueller's reported interview list. reince priebus and communications director hope hicks. don, hope hicks have hired their own expensive washington lawyers now on russia. and you know, when the special counsel wants...
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people remember that mcgann was close political adviser to trump in the beginning when people didn't think he was going anywhere and priebus the opposite, i want you to sign in support because one will be nominee and donald trump said sure, and he became the nominee. >> think both will have interesting testimony on the election side. mcgahn in particular, the original letter was allegedly edited by mcgahn where he rejected parts of it as legally problematic. and priebus involved in the discussions. suggests to me both are witnesses in the minds of the lawyer and not adverse, going at one another. >> not adverse and don mcgahn, in a town that talks about how donald trump doesn't listen to anyone, apparently prevailed upon him. something in the original letter he stopped. >> and frankly this situation has happened in every administration since obama's, from nixon through reagan to clinton, white house found themselves with multiple layers of lawyers. and problem is creates contaminated environment in which everyone has to be out for themselves and now have to be talking to their lawyer
people remember that mcgann was close political adviser to trump in the beginning when people didn't think he was going anywhere and priebus the opposite, i want you to sign in support because one will be nominee and donald trump said sure, and he became the nominee. >> think both will have interesting testimony on the election side. mcgahn in particular, the original letter was allegedly edited by mcgahn where he rejected parts of it as legally problematic. and priebus involved in the...
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or john mcgann is doing what he is supposed to do, and that's not destroy documents. didn't destroy it. >> it is the first time we've heard steven miller's name mentioned as part of any kind of russia investigation. >> it is. and i think that this really does give another window into more of the politics and the personnel and the disagreements that we reported, some of real time when comey was fired. and this suggests that steven miller, who was with the president in bedminster at his resort there the weekend he decided to firecomey, was on the fire of siding comey. wrast others were very much against it. and there was a big clash. we know who won out, that was steven miller and jared kushner. but the fact that he was involved is not great news for steven miller, because it means that he hasn't already gotten a lawyer, he will have to get one now and he will be asked to come to the committees on capitol hill, in addition to appear before the special counsel's office. >> yeah, professor turley, he could be subpoenaed, correct? >> he can. that issue was litigated during
or john mcgann is doing what he is supposed to do, and that's not destroy documents. didn't destroy it. >> it is the first time we've heard steven miller's name mentioned as part of any kind of russia investigation. >> it is. and i think that this really does give another window into more of the politics and the personnel and the disagreements that we reported, some of real time when comey was fired. and this suggests that steven miller, who was with the president in bedminster at...
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hicks, former chief of staff ryans debris bus, and the president's lawyer white house counsel don mcgann. some of them may be preparing for a run-in with the special counsel who, according to "washington post," has given the white house a list of six aides he and his team expect to question in the russia probe. as mueller's investigation continues to advance, the incentives for individual members of the trump circle to turn on each other original grow. according to multiple reports, some of the president's lawyers argued that his own son-in-law jared kushner should resign from the white house to avoid further legal applications for the man at the top. carol leoning joins us now, "washington post." tell me what we know about the president's lawyers' views on kushner. >> within the white house, remember this is in june right after the special counsel has been nominated or named, forgive me, in may, a group of white house lawyers are talking about all of the e-mails and all of the records that they're going through to respond to congressional inquiries and ultimately to prepare for bob muel
hicks, former chief of staff ryans debris bus, and the president's lawyer white house counsel don mcgann. some of them may be preparing for a run-in with the special counsel who, according to "washington post," has given the white house a list of six aides he and his team expect to question in the russia probe. as mueller's investigation continues to advance, the incentives for individual members of the trump circle to turn on each other original grow. according to multiple reports,...
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for example, don mcgann, the attorney, was the important man to sally yates, the former acting a.g.arned the white house that michael flynn was compromised and lying to the vice president. he will want to know, did you relay that information to the president? what is the president's knowledge of that and why wasn't nine fired? >> ely, this must send a chill wind through the west wing. >> yeah, i think that wind has been felt for months inside the west wing. some of these folks have gotten outside counsel. my friends are reporting that hope hicks has gotten her own outside attorney. so they've been bracing for this. they know it's not just going to be sitdown interviews with mueller and his team, about what their roles are. he's going to want to see a lot of electronic paper trails of texts and e-mails. we know there were a lot of conversations taking place, and not just the conversations on air force one that heidi is talking about, but conversations leading up to the firing of former fbi director jim comey. we know that the president wanted to do that, and aides were trying to disc
for example, don mcgann, the attorney, was the important man to sally yates, the former acting a.g.arned the white house that michael flynn was compromised and lying to the vice president. he will want to know, did you relay that information to the president? what is the president's knowledge of that and why wasn't nine fired? >> ely, this must send a chill wind through the west wing. >> yeah, i think that wind has been felt for months inside the west wing. some of these folks have...
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former press secretary sean spicer, the current communications director, hope hicks as well as don mcgann of the so we expect one or two of these interviews to happen quite soon. one of the big focuses is on the dismissals of both the national security adviser michael flynn, as well as the former fbi director james comey. the james comey aspect with the probe and they want to know more about the dismissal of michael flynn. why did it happen earlier after they warned about the conversations with the former russian ambassador, sergei kislyak? and one said mueller seems interested in the president's meeting with the oval office with russians where he mentioned that the fact that jim comey was fired would ease pressure. will so this is a development the interviews will begin soon according to our sources of the. >> let's get some analysis. >> hearing a couple of the key moments, the kislyak, lavrov meeting, the crafting of the statement and the news of the trump tower meeting with don jr., all of these pieces are coming out. the fact they want to talk to the former and current white house sta
former press secretary sean spicer, the current communications director, hope hicks as well as don mcgann of the so we expect one or two of these interviews to happen quite soon. one of the big focuses is on the dismissals of both the national security adviser michael flynn, as well as the former fbi director james comey. the james comey aspect with the probe and they want to know more about the dismissal of michael flynn. why did it happen earlier after they warned about the conversations with...
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to go to one element of the writer from "the new york times," some remarkable reporting here, don mcgannwhite house counsel explained to the president that even by firing james comey, that would not end the russia investigation. and according to the "times," the president's response there was that he knew that. but he still felt that he had to fire him. could that still be one element of the defense for the president that there was no obstruction of justice, that he acknowledged that by firing comey, he wasn't going to stop the russia investigation? >> i think that's one of the arguments of the president's lawyers, would use in the event that this became a big issue. but there's also a great deal of confusion that was bred from the chaos in the early days of this administration, remember, the administration first came out and said that the reason that comey was being fired was because of the way he handled the hillary clinton investigation. which was in that memo from rod rosenstein. so this really gets this letter that's been unearthed by "the new york times" gets to the credibility of
to go to one element of the writer from "the new york times," some remarkable reporting here, don mcgannwhite house counsel explained to the president that even by firing james comey, that would not end the russia investigation. and according to the "times," the president's response there was that he knew that. but he still felt that he had to fire him. could that still be one element of the defense for the president that there was no obstruction of justice, that he...
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. >> and the white house counsel, george mcgann, is now investigating, apparently.e launched an investigation into the private e-mail use as well as the congressional committees wanting to know why jared kushner did not mention this when he was meeting with them. >> well, as you just said, this is about national memory in a sense, not just accountability for the decisions made, but we want to have the national memory record. once you make the clear demarcation, everything is simple. everything wants to know so we can keep of record of where we've been. >> is there something called irony here? >> i think the word you're looking for is stupidity. >> there you go, there you go. thank you. >> or being tone deaf. speaking of being tone deaf, i wanted to ask you all for a reality check on the big tax proposal which could have legs because you've got both houses and taxes are now -- they've got to deliver something before the end of the year. obviously health care is not going to go through. but to claim that it is middle class tax relief, that it doesn't benefit the rich,
. >> and the white house counsel, george mcgann, is now investigating, apparently.e launched an investigation into the private e-mail use as well as the congressional committees wanting to know why jared kushner did not mention this when he was meeting with them. >> well, as you just said, this is about national memory in a sense, not just accountability for the decisions made, but we want to have the national memory record. once you make the clear demarcation, everything is simple....
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mcgann and berman who is the white house counsel, two of the six aides that mueller would like to speak with were briefed by yates on january 26th, days after trump's inauguration about the department and fbi concerns that flynn could be compromised by the russians. the fbi knew he wasn't telling the whole truth to pence and the public about his december conversations about u.s. sanctions with russian ambassador sergey kislyak. now, yates became concerned when she saw public comments from flynn not matching up with what she knew was true, but talk about what the white house did after they knew, after they were aware that the sitting national security adviser might be at risk for being blackmailed by the russians. >> sure. well as you'll recall they actually did nothing for i believe it was a period of about two weeks. what prompted them to finally take action was a "washington post" story that reported that vice president pence who had gone out there and said, you know, basically said flynn didn't talk about sanctions with the russian ambassador that he had been misled by flynn. once it
mcgann and berman who is the white house counsel, two of the six aides that mueller would like to speak with were briefed by yates on january 26th, days after trump's inauguration about the department and fbi concerns that flynn could be compromised by the russians. the fbi knew he wasn't telling the whole truth to pence and the public about his december conversations about u.s. sanctions with russian ambassador sergey kislyak. now, yates became concerned when she saw public comments from flynn...
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>> mcgann was deeply concerned about it. we don't have a copy of the letter. but he knew that the firing of comey was going to be looked at, legally skrcrutinized deeply an did not like the arguments the president was making, and thought they could be problematic. and he stopped it from going out. now, department of justice has given this letter to mueller, who is looking at whether the firing of comey was obstruction. >> one of the many things that we're told the special counselor is looking at now. okay, michael, some brand-new reporting there from the "washington post." just a short time ago, a few moments ago, in fact, we heard president trump say -- sometime today over the weekend, we will have a decision. and then he said, we love the dreamers, we love everybody. thank you very much. this is what president trump said back in february. take a listen. >> on the daca program for immigration, what is your plan? do you plan to continue that program, or to end it? >> we're going to show great heart. we are going to deal with daca with heart. i have to deal wit
>> mcgann was deeply concerned about it. we don't have a copy of the letter. but he knew that the firing of comey was going to be looked at, legally skrcrutinized deeply an did not like the arguments the president was making, and thought they could be problematic. and he stopped it from going out. now, department of justice has given this letter to mueller, who is looking at whether the firing of comey was obstruction. >> one of the many things that we're told the special counselor...
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the beginning of that period, i guess we understand sally yates went to the white house counsel don mcgann. warned them flynn could be a target for blackmail from the russians. 18 days where he stayed on the job. and jeremy bash and other national security experts, veterans of the cia have said that's a period that an investigator would be interested in. but correct me if i'm wrong in seeing your report as the first evidence that that is, indeed, a time period the mueller probe is now interested in learning more about. >> i was surprised, too, when we found out that the flynn firing was something they were sort of digging into. it makes sense in a sense given the fact that it involved the justice department, it involved the acting attorney general who went to the white house, provided them with this warning. it also makes sense because there's still a lot we don't know about what happened with flynn. why did it take so long for the white house to fire him? was it really because he had lied to the vice president or because he had come out publicly but this is the first time that i've seen a
the beginning of that period, i guess we understand sally yates went to the white house counsel don mcgann. warned them flynn could be a target for blackmail from the russians. 18 days where he stayed on the job. and jeremy bash and other national security experts, veterans of the cia have said that's a period that an investigator would be interested in. but correct me if i'm wrong in seeing your report as the first evidence that that is, indeed, a time period the mueller probe is now...
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or don mcgann is doing what he is supposed to do, and that's not destroy documents.. >> it is the first time we've heard steven miller's name mentioned as part of any kind of russia investigation. >> it is. and i think that this really does give another window into more of the politics and the personnel and the disagreements that we reported, some of real time when comey was fired. and this suggests that steven miller, who was with the president in bedminster at his resort there the weekend he decided to fire comey, was on the side of firing him along with jared kushner and ivanka trump. whereas others were very much against it. and there was a big clash. we know who won out, that was steven miller and jared kushner. but the fact that he was involved is not great news for steven miller, because it means that if he hasn't already gotten a lawyer, he will have to get one now, and he will be asked to come to the committees on capitol hill, in addition to appear before the special counsel's office. >> yeah, professor turley, he could be subpoenaed, correct? >> he can. th
or don mcgann is doing what he is supposed to do, and that's not destroy documents.. >> it is the first time we've heard steven miller's name mentioned as part of any kind of russia investigation. >> it is. and i think that this really does give another window into more of the politics and the personnel and the disagreements that we reported, some of real time when comey was fired. and this suggests that steven miller, who was with the president in bedminster at his resort there the...