mcgann needs to be careful with how quickly they go.eart of the tension is that cobb wants to be as quick as possible while mcgann has a lot of other considerations to weigh, including setting some sort of precedent that conflicts future white house's but also the future of this presidency as well. carol: matt, let's talk about that a little bit because you dig into attorney-client privilege. you give us a history lesson to remind us it does not always hold between a president and his counsel. matt: that is right. in a normal situation, donald mcgann would have at his disposal two legal protections that allow him to claim confidentiality for dealings. one, executive privilege that the white house extends around these kinds of conversations and your basic attorney-client privilege. but because of the last two big white house investigations, namely watergate and whitewater, rulings were set that allow investigators to reach into the white house and grab as evidence things that would normally be hidden. so mcgann, because of the failures o

dr john mcgann is one of the world's leading specialists in diagnostic radiology he is supervising the imaging part of the trial. lore is a senior at u.c. davis he's a science student who decided to volunteer for the summer study if i remember. things. like the other subjects more had a previous scan start of the trial doctors captured the before image of his abdominal region this morning they'll get. it so it's quite as fair is. something i've never done before and i think through this two week i really don't know about myself. and this technology is being used to chart what happens to. internal organs when sugary drinks are consumed those results cannot be calculated by scales and are not visible to the naked eye that's where the m.r.i. comes in dr mcgann showed us exactly what he's looking for in the scan the key i don't know we're looking at in this study is this structure here sort of a little darker grayer structure which is the over what we're trying to do we do need different m.r.i. sequences and then later on we go ahead and we calculate the amount of fat with the livable pre

dr john mcgann is one of the world's leading specialists in diagnostic radiology he is supervising the imaging part of the trial. lore is a senior at u.c. davis he's a science student who decided to volunteer for the summer study if i remember. it's. like the other subjects more had a previous scan start of the trial doctors captured the before image of his abdominal region this morning they'll get. it so it's quite it's very it's. something i've never done before and i think through this two week i really don't know about myself. and this took. knology is being used to chart what happens to internal organs when sugary drinks are consumed those results cannot be calculated by scales and are not visible to the naked eye that's where the m.r.i. comes in dr mcgann showed us exactly what he's looking for in the scan the key item that we're looking at in this study is this structure here sort of a little darker or greater structure which is the over what we're trying to do we do need different m.r.i. sequences and then later on we go ahead and we calculate the amount of fat with the livable

mueller as many documents as possible in hopes of getting the investigation over with quickly, while mcgann worries about "setting a precedent that would weaken the white house long after mr. trump's tenure is over." yes, that's how trump's going to weaken the white house: too much honesty. ( laughter ) that is kind of interesting news. how did we learn this? how do we know this is true? well, we learned it straight from the mouth of trump lawyer and frontier dentist who's all gussied up for the barn dance, ty cobb. a "new york times" reporter overheard cobb talking about the russia probe at a washington steakhouse. either that, or the reporter confused cobb with the steakhouse's mascot. how careless is this guy? you're a lawyer just out there mouthing off in public where anyone can hear you? that's like your therapist going out in the waiting room and saying "guess who's having sex dreams about his cousin again? pretty racy stuff." ( laughter ) but running his mouth in public isn't the biggest mistake made by trump lawyer and wilfred brimley tribute head, ty cobb. cobb's biggest blunder is

comes in dr mcgann showed us exactly what he's looking for in the scan the key i don't know we're looking at in this study is this structure here sort of a little darker or greater structure which is the over what we're trying to do we do need different m.r.i. sequences and then later on we go ahead and we calculate the amount of fat with the livable pre and post study and why is liver fat porton here liver fabulous important because it's sorta helps and regulates a lot of different things within the body of glucose metabolism it also regulates name on a trike list price that we have circulating within the body so it's actually sort of a clearing agent you know for a lot of different things here produces cholesterol so there's all sorts of different things the liver does and in order to really get a sense for this particular subject you'd have to look at the scans exactly and we look to back both at the libbers so we calculate well how much fat is there in the liver before we started this study and then all this and we can go back again at the end of this study and we know exactly what ou

to dwoe if a sill kate the justice department's full cooperation sources are telling us that don mcgann then relayed that message to the justice department. of course the president has been very interested in this story for some time and the other day he called it one the biggest stories since watergate. his staff says it's base he wants to be transparent. there's a political backdrop here. this story has been going around for a long time. the story is the russians paid what amounted to prescribribes to the hillary clinton administration. clinton of course said she has solutely nothing to do with the decision that she knows nothing aboutthis. but thiss a story the president keeps talking about, and this new testimony from this informant will certainly keep the story going. >> so it continues. thanks. >>> a course tells cnn the president has expressed consistent frustration with the fbi and justice department for dragging their heels on the russian uranium case and other matters. white house referring all questions to the justice department. justice department, of course refusing to comm

fees for the president's son while not paying the legal fees for reince priebus, sean spicer or don mcgann seem to have more of a connection to the rnc. >> try to think of their thinking here. although donald trump jr. did not have a decision making decision. the younger trump has said that he met with that russian lawyer because he thought that she had information that was useful about his president's rival. so he was -- i think that their thinking is he got caught up in this because he was part of the campaign whether he had an official title or not. he wouldn't have taken that meeting and wouldn't have testified before the senate judiciary committee had his father not been running for president. >> do you know if the president's family has been involved at all in terms of the rnc going. if we know anything about the negotiations that led to this. >> there has been a lot of reporting back and forth about the internal conversations. i don't know to what extent the president and family reported the greenstick. whoever the president is. when there's a republican in the white house, the repu

we do not have this tension between don mcgann, the white house general counsel anti-count, and was broughtically advised the president on issues related to the pressure investigation and help meet the requests of mueller of the special counsel office. it's a quite an interesting position we are in right now with white house is in right now and the fact you have two very high-powered attorneys who report directly to the president having this friction and tension between each other. shery: what is mueller steam when it comes to having to work with e dynamics of otr investigations going on at the same time? we know congressional committees are having their own investigations. this russian investigation with the congressional committees and mueller has been a cloud hanging over this white house domestically and even more so internationally and how it deals with u.s. international relations with russia and our allies in other parts of the world. there is a desire in the white house by the administration to get this investigation results quickly because they feel it will exonerate them cloud off

, that includes his current communications directors hope hicks, his current general counsel, don mcgann. his former press secretary spicer. keith kellogg has already been interviewed. and the topics are the firing of jim comey and michael flynn, but that famous meeting on air force one when the president and his advisers were crafting the initial misleading explanation of that trump tower meeting between his john, donald trump jr. who lawyers who said they were offering damaging information on hillary clinton. so a number of topics and paths the special counsel is going down with these interviews. >> jim, thanks. i want to get the panel's take. michael, how big a concern was is this for people in the white house? >> it's kind of a concern on two levels , from a political concern about the president and his fate. there's concern that the higher up mueller goes in the administration, the more serious is investigation looks both in terms of the underlying russia agenci allegations. these are in some cases like young people or people who aren't necessarily wealthy, they have to get lawyers

remember, this whole fight between don mcgann and ty cobb if things should be withheld. there's two things here. the document production, how much to cooperate in the legal sense and the other thing we're hearing from associates, former advisers and former campaign aides is that a lot of them want him to fight back in public. they want this -- they see it's not just a legal fight, it's a political fight. they're yearning for the fight that they were looking for in june, bay in may when trump was fighting this thing. >> shepard: behind the scenes you write about what the president's demeanor is on this matter and it relates to the other investigations underway. >> absolutely. he seems to be at peace with it for now. there's an interesting conversation i had with somebody that is dialled in on this that told me that that could change on a dime. if the president gets the sense that mueller and his team are coming after his family, if they're looking at his businesses, coming after him directly, then he could go back to the old trump. the one -- the street brawler. but if mu

to be interviewed including sean spicer, the current communications director hope hicks, and dawn mcgann from sources, they've told cnn that this questioning has to do with the circumstances surrounding the dismissal of former national security adviser michael flynn, as well as the firing of james comey. one source actually telling cnn that robert mueller is looking to get information on the president's meeting with some russian officials shortly after former fbi director james comey was fired, in which he reportedly bragged about the firing, saying it takes pressure off the white house, so this is yet another sign the russia investigation is moving forward. >> all right, boris sanchez, we appreciate it so much. thank you. >>> all right, president trump is also attacking the iran deal. another obama administration achievement. despite the advice of his secretary of state and his secretary of defense and other members of his cabinet and key u.s. allies, the president says iran is no longer in compliance with the spirit of the nuclear deal negotiated by the obama administration. now, the f

you have don mcgann, the white house counsel.e doesn't want to set a precedent of turning over things you don't have to. the flip side is ty cobb, the president's personal counsel that says no, we should be totally cooperative and try to get as much to them as possible. nothing happened is what they say. therefore this should be over soon. but the flip side of that, as you point out, this is a special counsel investigation. this could go any number of directions. >> shepard: tom lobianco, nice to see you. thank you. >> thanks. >> shepard: president trump's tax plan passing major hurdle today. the house of representatives approved a budget frame work that gives senate republicans the power to pass a tax bill with 50 votes instead of the 60 you normally need. they also have the power to pass a healthcare bill but didn't manage to get it done. our season capitol hill producer, chad pergram reports if the house had not approved this budget frame work, the republican tax plan probably would have been dead like immediately. mike emanue

don mcgann, the white house counsel, sally yates, she came to the white house counsel and believed that flynn was compromised. she said it under oath to congress, that they needed to act on this. they need to know about this. and then i think it was a good two or three weeks before they did act on it and you're right, that interim, who was said then is going to be going to matter a lot. >> we've got to take a quick break. coming up next, the president has brought chief of staff john kelly who lost his son in afghanistan into it. as he crossed a new threshold? we'll keep him honest on that. >>> later, how the president might react to a new and much lower assessment of his net worth. details on that printed in "forbes" magazine when we continue. as king midas, i expect a lifetime guarantee. and so should you. on struts, brakes, shocks. does he turn everything to gold? not everything. now get $100 back on a 2-axle brake service with your midas credit card. book an appointment online. looking for a hotel that fits... whoooo. ...your budget? tripadvisor now searches over... ...200 sites to f

. >> the white house said don mcgann did contact the justice department. is there that's not only unet kl but it's a violation of rules. if members of congress are willing to cover for that or worse, become complicit in that, and that was the word jeff flake used, in what i think is the most significant speech in congress in the 17 years i have been there. if we allow ourselves in congress to become complicit to up ethic unethical processes by the president. by intervening with a gag rule. interviewing u.s. attorneys in new york who may oversee potential prosecutions of the president's interests. by picking someone, confirming someone nominated to head the criminal division of the justice department who happens to be the lawyer for alpha bank, we become complicit in that kind of conduct. we will have to answer to history. >> it does appear republicans it's not a side show. we continue the hard work of getting to the bottom of what happened. we faced serious obstacles. many of them go back to our chairman. who, i think, all too often, has been willing to fu