congressional house democrats now in control be able to get those duments, the memo from john kelly and john mcgann? >> they're going to try. they had a discussion with the white house staff to try to getm the that john kelly wrote and another one that the white house council wrote. andccording to the democrats, they said that the white house would not confirm or deny the existence of that memo. now, elijah cummings is the chairman of the committee has actually sent -- he's been investigate this when he was in the minority. the white house ignored him for the past two years. the chairman. he sent a letter at the beginning of the congress demanding a whole host of documents and the issues that carol was referring. to why some people didn't g security clearances and jared kushner that deadline was february 6th. it's now the beginning of march. he's saying if he doesn't have the documents now i the wake of his reporting, then by mt'day then going to be subpoena time. we'll see how the white housema ully decides to comply or not. robert: i'm so looking forward toour book on barbara bush, the matriarch,

raised by kushner by the cia and how mcgann recommended he not be given a top-secret clearance. this reporting also revealed a effort of coordinated lies. >> did you tell general kelly or anyone in the white house to -- >> no, i don't think i have the authority to do that. i don't think i do. but i would never do it. jared is a good -- i was never involved with his security. >> the president had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husband's clearance. >> what were the problems early on? >> there weren't any. >> so no special treatment? >> no. >> there was nobody in the political process that had anything to do with it. there was nobody who pressured it. it was just done the normal, regular way. >> in case you forgot how harshly the republicans treat liars, here they are. >> you're a pathological liar. >> he's going to prison for lying to congress and he's the star witness to congress. >> convicted liar, lying to congress. apparently he died about delivering his own child which his wife had to correct the record. >> liar, liar, pants on fire. it's another example, mr.

sudan has freed a newspaper editor who spent weeks in jail for criticizing the president's also mcgann e appalls omar al bashir is decision to declare a state of emergency during ongoing demonstrations whites groups say more than fifty people have been killed since protests began in december over the price of bread and protesters have renewed calls for haiti's president to step down opposition groups have demonstrated in the capital port au prince accusing juvenile mores of corruption and economic mismanagement well those are the headlines now it's back to fourteen upset africa. well. that's what i'm going to. tell the. four teens of age of exploration and the time for hanging out with friends. of some races special they did this time. their first movie that was one that you know one is your first one to go and take. somebody like me. i don't know you don't know how to craft an executive. what's wrong with the spine if you do that i just want to add a link to the. same game in time. minded to play close in her going amanda mother in law against his skin. it is time for. imogen yes you

who is the -- gon mcgann, former white house counsel. and there was transparency from the white house, suggestion of ty cobb, you have tens of thousands of documents that are in house white house communications, inner agency, personal communications. most of which would be subject to executive privilege. you would think the white house would want to check to make sure that whoever was reviewing this would be very prudent about what is and is not related. akoshding to the attorney general the president has turned all of the reins of that over to the attorney general to make the decision and the white house counsel's office won't be involved at all. he puts a frey amount of faith in an individual that the president doesn't know that well. bill barr's reputation, he thinks he's a stellar individual. but it's not the white house counsel, puts a lot of faith in the department of justice to scrub this thing no, items subject to executive privilege that the white house doesn't warrant out there don't get out there. >> about a week ago as you kn

closest former aides and advisers, like steve bannon, hope hicks and former white house council don mcgann. his current campaign manager brad parascale and the trump organization's chief financial officer allen weisselberg. chairman jerold nadler says the judiciary committee, which has jurisdiction over impeachment, is making these requests to "begin building the public record." >> impeachment is a long way down the road, we don't have the facts yet. >> reporter: democrats want to explore everything from the firing of former fbi director james comey to the hush money payments to stormy daniels to the president's meetings with vladimir putin, and whether he and his family are profiting from the presidency. but trump has said it all amounts to presidential harassment. >> and all of the sudden, they're trying to take you out with [ bleep ], okay? [ bleep ]. >> reporter: in a meandering, two-our off-script speech this weekend, the president ripping into his democratic opponents. >> they don't have anything with russia. there's no collusion. so, now they go and morph into, let's inspect every d

trump pushed kelly and mcgann so it doesn't hear he was doing that in his favor.the new york times" reports that trump orlandoed them to grant jared kushner. white house press secretary cdc said the white house cannot comment on security clearance issues, nor can it respond to every source. kelly could not be reached to comment and mcgahn declined to comment for this story. back to you. >> and the security clearance were separate from those about her husband. we're also told that the white house is rejecting a demand from the house oversight committee to turn over documents and comply with interviews about the security clearances of some of president trump's closest advisers including son-in-law jared kushner. >>> president trump signals the white house will push back against the investigations targeting his political and personal lives. the president accuses democrats of launching probes to hurt his 2020 reelection chance and making a curious reference to his predecessor. >> essentially what they're saying is the campaign begins, instead of doing infrastructure,

mcgann wrote a memo to say hey, i don't want any part of this. mr. kelly wrote the same thing. very evidence adduced by the very people protecting the president saying they've got to protect themselves first. if they don't, they will be complicit in this mountain of mendacitc, this web of lies. we see that donald trump is being in one sense facilitated by people who are complicit in this very mendacity. what do the facts say? facts matter. truth matters. what actually happened makes a difference. empirical means that which can be false fight or verified through the sentence. the legislative process is saying let us apply what we have against this test case. if the president says no, let's see if he says no. but if we don't know, we don't have the documents we don't know what we're dealing with. >> this is a good back and forth. young, good to have y >> federal deficit is getting fat. why? in part because of the tax cut. in part because of our fiscal responsibility. republicans are usually swinging a hammer at these kinds of situations but they didn't criticize this president fo

cnn reporting that the president pressured his then chief of staff john kelly and don mcgann to okay ivanka trump's clearance. father and daughter previously denied the allegation. the administration refuses to, again, hand over documents. not a legal standard here, legal scandal here, but politically, how significant could this become? >> well, it's very significant. one, the american people look at people who hold security clearance as among the group that protects them. we take it very seriously in the united states. there are a lot of people that are part of that system, mostly in and around washington who hold security clearances. playing with that system, making it appear to be a game rather than a serious way to defend america's secrets is very troubling to outside observers, to people inside the system and to the american people. it's a very dangerous game to play on the part of the white house. and to respond to congress by essentially saying as the white house did yesterday in a letter, that there's no legitimate legislative purpose for your inquiries. that's simply not tru

because apparently both the chief of staff john kelly and the general counsel white house counsel mcganngainst giving -- giving jared kushner those security clearances. and that they should agree with the white house advisers who are the experts in granting that clearance. and, you know, reverend al, that lines up with my question of michael cohen, which was that was it possible that jared kushner, don jr. and ivanka were compromised given their involvement in the trump tower deal through the campaign when president trump and they lied about that involvement. and so that makes me concerned and suspicious that this was a part of the reason that the white house security clearance experts advised against him getting it. and we have been asking on the overnight committee, chairman cummings has been asking for the white house to give us information about how those security clearance has been granted and they have been ignoring those requests. chairman cummings has now given the white house until monday to comply with those requests, allow us to interview witnesses related to the granting of t

includes the president's sons, his son-in-law, allen weisselberg, former white house counsel don mcganne president firing back with what else but a tweet. now that they realize the only collusion with russia was done by crooked hillary clinton and the democrats, the heads of the committees have gone stone cold crazy. 81 letters sent to innocent people. they won't get anything done for our country. nadler told rachel maddow why heavhe believed this is justified. >> for two years the congress did no oversight on the administration. they acted as shields for the administration for whatever they wanted to do. they tried to sabotage the mueller investigation. we have to hold hearings and lay out for the american people if the administration is involved in abuses of power. >> back with us bob burger and joining us peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times." peter, let me begin with you. pick up on the point the president has been making about this. which is that by focusing on an investigation so broad, so wide scoped, the democrats are effectively not going to get

mcgann did not to do it -- amy: the white house counsel. >> the white house counsel, because of worriesut competency. how does anyone know these two are going to be confident? that is a good question. he pose this to reince priebus and bannon and bannon said, think back to billy bush when the president was so upset when the onlyes leaked and person could really call him down was ivanka, i think we might need them. as six weeks later, bannon is pushed out. i think given the scope of this period ison's time very limited. amy: ultimately, your conclusion about the power of jared kushner and ivanka trump in the white house? >> that is a complicated answer. they are still there. the body count that they have caused is up in the 30's. but i think the book shows at the end of the day, she can't speak candidly to her father. in the end, he is going to do what he is going to do. although, again, it is complicated. that security clearance. amy: and ivanka trump? we have to leave it there but we will do part two and posted online. vicky ward, author of the new book "kushner, inc.: the extraordinar

ridiculous it is, jesse, they are trying to get documents from the president's former lawyer don mcgannich would either be privileged or subject to executive privilege. then they are trying to get information from content director of the "national enquirer." so we may find out why brad pitt was at jennifer aniston's 40th birthday before we find out whether or not there is evidence of collusion. >> jesse: trump has one conversation with a member of the media and that is collusion. meanwhile, the democrats talk ta the press every day and leak and connive. it is funny though, so looking at obstruction of justice, the only thing trump obstructed was hillary getting into the white house, in my opinion.puth he's looking at public corruption and if you are interested in public corruption, maybe they would have cared about the clinton foundation and abuseste of power. it is funny, they were never really interested in the irs targeting the tea party. soso it looks purely political. >> matt: of course it is an elite up to destabilizing district as president. what democrats know if donald trump ha

all of the interviews to done mcgann did, they may use that. and if so, it's not something that barr can override. it's the president's call. it's really the president that gets to decide whether he's going to enforce that process to happen or not. >> joyce, if we are days, perhaps hours away from the reports delivered to the attorney general, then that would also mean we're presumably days or hours away from a big battle over disclosure. once reporters hand it over, how long until we see it? any portion of it? >> i don't think we're looking at some sort of a immediate disclosure. bill barr will presumably want to take a careful look at the report. the report -- we don't know yet if it will come in summary form. or if it will be the more lengthy sort of scholarly dissertation that we've seen mueller deliver in court proceedings and his indictments. so it's entirely possible that this can be a long drawn-out process. i want to echo what matt is saying when he talks about disclosure because he's pretty much said it should be laid out for the amer

. >> and one of the things in the investigation was that don mcgann stopped him from his desire to investigateis over because the mueller report singing. i think we're moving past it, i know rob mueller was meticulous, and when he says i cotts clear the president, i can't reach a conclusion that he did not obstruct justice, there is a lot of information in the report to back that up. so i don't think we should quickly move past the mueller report still being devastating to the president. >> how many different times has trump said i have been exonerated? he says it every other week. comey exonerated me, and cohen chon rates me, he always says she not guilty. none of this is new, when did he stop harassing the media? i don't think and again it is not just until the mueller report comes out, i don't think this changes anything, he will harass the media and the press, it is a typical monday. press, it is a typical monday whenever we're about to get on a stage for a huge audience, i always give my dad like a facetime kinda moment. you see the crowd, you see the emotion. you know, he has that experi

at least the mcgann memo is said to express what the concerns were about jared that led to senior staff, excuse me, led to career staff recommending against jared getting a clearance. wouldn't you like to see those memos? the oversight committee likes to see them. they are making efforts to get those documents. they are sort of implicitly threatening they will send out subpoenas that to get information that they have requested about security clearances and this white house. information they have requested thus far and had no response from the white house about. and today the chairs of a whole bunch of committees, foreign affairs, intelligence, and oversight, they all wrote jointly to the white house also to demand information about president trump's communications with vladimir putin. and i mean, that's a remarkable thing that congress might be able to obtain, right? a president's communications with a foreign leader. it would be a weird thing for congress to feel like they could get access to that even except for the fact that with this president, he reportedly took the -- as far as we

moments where that wasn't necessarily clear, the future was yet to be written, according to don mcgann's testimony, donald trump was seeking to ask someone to do his dirty work for him and fire mueller. maybe that was something that slowed the work of the special prosecutor's office, we will find out whether he ultimately provides material on that to go to congress. the fact that mueller picked tonight to end the probe, tells us some ways that he beat donald trump's efforts. >> katyal, i want to go to the only defense that the president has ever really offered about this, it's the two-work defense, no collusion, no collusion. collusion is not a legal term, it does not legally describe a crime. and so it's not really in any real legal sense a defense. what do you see in what we -- in what this letter tells us from the attorney general tonight about what there might or might not be in terms of revelations about russian interference in the election. which the word collusion is just a descriptive term that some people have come up with basically in the news media, that's not a legal term. an

. >> that would include john kelly, don mcgann, the former white house counsel? >> i would assume so. i don't have the list in front of me. we will be releasing the list tomorrow. >>> also tomorrow it is the deadline for the white house to provide the house oversight committee documents related to security clearances or risk being subpoenaed. this after "the new york times" reported the president ordered a top secret security clearance for jared kushner overruling career intelligence officials. the president after a bruising week, both at home and abroad, unleashed with the longest speech of his presidency. he riled up a sympathetic crowd. among his wide ranging targets, robert mueller, james comey and hillary clinton. and the president downplayed his infamous campaign press conference in which he called on russia to hack hillary clinton's e-mails. >> if you tell a joke, if you're sarcastic, if you say something like, russia, please, if you can, get us hillary clinton's e-mails. then that fake cnn and others say, he asked russia to go get the e-mails. horrible. >

don mcgann, the former white house counsel, spoke about the need to pick judges that are opposed to theinistrative state. steve bannon has said the same thing. neil gorsuch has written about the dangers of administrative state, and yet all americans look to agencies to protect their well-being. host: i know you were a fierce critic of john roberts when he was nominated. he sen said he wanted to be an umpire that followed the law, not an ideologue. host: let's look at his record. that is the best evidence of the kind of justice he has been. certainly on case after case where there are voting rights, abortion, the death penalty, gun rights, environment, access to justice, binding arbitration, he has been a consistent vote against upholding and safeguarding the progress that has been made in those areas. host: john malcolm. guest: i would say chief justice roberts is a minimalist. he is afraid of the court getting too far ahead in terms of bold cases. he tends to see the law in baby steps rather than big steps. conservatives were certainly disappointed and justice roberts being the decidin

trump wanted me to which is working with don mcgann at the white house general counsel. what i said at the time and i brought a lawyer in who produced a memo as to why i should not go in because there would be no attorney-client privilege and in order to handle some of the matters that i talked about in my opening that it would be best suited for me not to go in and that every president -- mr. jordan: here's what i see. a guy who worked for 10 years trashing guy he worked for for 10 years did not get a job in the white house and now you're behaving just like everyone else who's got fired or did not get the job they wanted. mccabe, sameandrew kind of selfish motivation after you don't get what you want. mr. cohen: mr. jordan, all i wanted was what i got, to be personal attorney to the enjoy the to senior year of my son in high school and waiting for my daughter to come back to new york. i got exactly what i want. mr. jordan: exactly what you want? mr. cummings: gentleman's time is expired. : thank youan schultz for being here today mr. cohen. as chair of the democratic na

matter tell cnn that the president pushed then chief of staff john kelly and white house council don mcgannon-in-law jared kushner so it didn't appear he was intervening after they allegedly refused, trump granted them security clearances which is in their power but counter to public denies. nbc has not independently confirmed this. it is eafeasible that she was unaware of both problems raised in her background check and her father's involvement in it. the trump administration could soon be facing a house subpoena on their security clearance. this is after the latest request for documents on the process. house democrats have been seeking them for months. chairman elijah cummings has been indicating that his next step will be to accept a subpoena. they replied that such a measure would be without legal support, clearly premature, and suggests a breech of the constitutionally required accommodation process. instead he offered to let the committee review documents and get a briefing cummings rejected the idea that they don't have the authority for the argument. decades of presidents before thi