mcgann to the special counsel and described by special counsel mueller. the moment for the white house to assert privilege to prevent this testimony has long since passed. but the president questioned this afternoon how much more than the mueller report do democrats want to know? listen here. >> the subpoena is ridiculous. we have been, i have been the most transparent president and administration in the history of our country by far. we just went through the mueller witch hunt, where you had really 18 angry democrats that hate president trump. after two years, we'd be finished with it. no. now the house wants to know every deal i have ever done. >> reporter: they say the don mcgann subpoena is probably the most prominent but there's another subpoena out there. this one from john gore at the department of justice. what you see there is a letter from the department of justice to elijah cummings, chairman of the house oversight committee. they wanted john gore, they subpoenaed him to give a deposition regarding the question of citizenship inclusion on the 2

the big fish that congress is trying to land is don mcgann.s been refuted by the house judiciary committee, tweeting about him this morning saying "has has been incorrectly reported, he never told don mcgann to fire robert mueller, even though i had the legal right to do so. if i wanted to fire mueller, i did not need don mcgann to do it, i could have done it myself. nonetheless mueller was not fired and was allowed to finish his work which was in the legal investigation, there was no crime." but tried to turn around the narrative about dom again and take some of the wind out of the democratic sales, he may have invited more certainty of conversation to the head with don mcgann, listen to dan kilby this morning. >> i think on the specific question that the president raised, we have to get an answer to the question, if the president directed mr. mcgann to fire the special counsel, that is a direct question. what we do with that information, i don't think that any of us are prepared to make that determination. >> here is what the mueller report

i never told don mcgann to fire mueller. if i wanted to fire mueller, i would've done it myself, it's very simple. i had the right to. he frankly, whether i did or did, we had the absolute right to fire mueller. and i didn't do it. i am a student of history. i see what happens when you fire people and it's not good. but i never told don mcgann to fire mueller. , mueller finished out his report. no collusion and no obstruction. i think we beat them easily. parentsdo you tell about getting their kids vaccinated for measles? >> they have to get the shot. vaccinations are so important. this is really going around now. they have to get their shots. well, i still feel like a young man. i'm still young. i am the youngest person. i am a young, vibrant man. joe, i don't know about him. i would never say anyone is too old, but he makes me look very young both in terms of age and in terms of energy. i think people know that better than anybody. i have answered that question. if you look at what i said, you will see that question was an

if i wanted to fire him, i didn't need mcgann to do it, i could have done it myself.ut president trump may have eroded the case to claim executive privileges and keep mcgann from testifying. >> if, in fact, the president directed to mr. mcgann to fire the special counsel, that's a substantial question. >> according to the mueller report, on june 17, 2017, he called him at home and said the special counsel had conflicts of interest and must be removed. further down the report illuminates a contradiction. when news broke in january 2018, the president publicly disputed these accounts and privately told mcgann that he simply wanted mcgann to bring conflicts of interest to the department of justice is attention. mueller writes, some of the testimony is consistent with the investigation, however he goes on to say there is substantial evidence of the president went further and in fact, directed mcgann to call rosenstein to have the special counsel removed. democrats appear to go to the map to go to the bottom of what really happened. >> this is your legal peril and constitu

the administration is well aware if mcgann appears before congress. and back in 2017. >> and they provided millions of pages and the conclusion and there's no collusion and no obstruction. >> the special counsel never made a final determination that there was no instruction, that was made by william barr. democrats are leaving this one alone. and privilege to prevent testimony from being heard. and and john gore working for the civil rights division, and the senses question about citizenship. the department of justice that will not comply with such a subpoena issuing a statement, quote, this is a massive unprecedented and growing pattern of obstruction, and will head to the supreme court, this takes place in the senate and the supreme court. the battle is between the administration and congressional democrats and stephen miller. the white house saying too that he's not going to show up. >> all of america would have questions. thank you. hillary clinton telling congress how it should proceed. she writes in 1998 the republican-led house rushed to judgme

i would think they have to call mcgann to testify.s made about me in the crazy mueller report are fabricated and totally untrue. watch out for people who take so-called notes. that's about mcgann. he's the one that joked about the notes. he was the white house counsel. the president of the united states is saying the white house counsel lied to robert mueller and reported what he reported about trump asking mcgann to lie. that's an interesting charge against the former white house counsel. if i were running the house judiciary committee i would want to call mr. mcgann and sayw woud you repeat what you said. that's a pretty big thing. the degree to which we could have hearings, i think people are underestimated that we're in the middle of the story, not at the end of it. >> it would be nice to hear dan mcgann elaborate on the crazy expletive that the president wanted him to do. thank you. enjoy the holiday. >>> former trump executive, she's going to join me to talk about the portrait that this report really paints the president of the

>> on this mcgann thing, it's really quite interesting because i think if you listen to the democratsheir supporters, they want a tv show. they realize that a 400-plus page report is not going to be read by a lot of viewers. they're not not getting their message out as much. the obviously mueller did not find collusion. so they think that if they can just put mcgann on television it will be wate watergate all or again. put him in a witness chair, television going, have him repeat the things that he said to mueller in his 30 hours of testimony, then maybe they can stir things up in a way they've not been able to do so to now. lou: but they also need to at least pretend they understand something about the law. and no, no one, including mcgann, waived thaib right to to executive privilege by testifying to, as alex vogel of the vogel group said today on fox, by testifying to another executive branch member, ie, the special counsel and the attorney general. byron york, sebastian gorka, thank you for being with us. great to see you. i can't tell you who i am or what i witnessed, but i can t

in the report it says trump wanted mcgann to deny that that ever happened and mcgann refused because he said it actually did happen and that is true. that is one small piece in a series of stories that revealed that people in the president's inner circle were essentially trying to protect him from himself. now that's not likely to sit well with a president who doesn't like the idea that he's being managed ever. you could see that in his tweets from yesterday when he said and insisted that he did have the right to fire robert mueller even though he says he chose not to, which of course we see from the mueller report, is not true. boris and christine? >> caitlyn, thank you for that. we wanted to dig in on the special counsel's fascinating finding that president trump tried to influence the russia probe unsuccessfully mainly because subordinates would not carry out his details. mueller goes into detail when president trump made a phone call to white house don mcgann. he said he had to call and say he had conflicts of interest and had to be removed. mcgann decided he would resign rather

is that a next message -- don mcgann. is that in next message? -- a mixed message? scott: i don't think that's a mixed message. there was a subpoena issued just as this meeting was underway, to send a message to the rank and file members, who are clamoring for impeachment, to say, we are going to use the robert mueller report as a guidepost. he has left a number of breadcrumbs. we have heard this analogy this week. we have to follow the breadcrumbs. going tomethodically go through this 448 page report. they want to subpoena the various characters that appear in this report, including don mcgann, hauled before the committees, get them on record, get them to testify in public before the national television cameras, and try to get to the , not so what happened much having to do with the russia coordination or collusion, which mueller has said, there was not enough criminal evidence to move forward on, but on the obstruction of justice aspects, democrats want to pick apart each and every one of these examples of potential obstruction of justice. 10 of them, robert muell

i was asking about mcgann. listen to this. >> rudy: i think this is a product of not telling the full story. that's not mcgann's fault. you read that, mcgann gave three different versions of that conversation. the first version of that conversation is the president used the word fire and he told the president i'm going to resign directly. he then recants that and says no fire, no statement that i was going to resign and then he comes up with that person and then a third version which is even softer which says something like he should be fired. or he has conflicts, he can't be special prosecutor. >> chris: and that mueller has to go. >> rudy: is a very complex set of facts. on the other side, the president says i didn't say to fire him. i didn't want him to go, i want at the conflicts to be taken into consideration. but the president's version. you got to pick one version of the other. >> chris: may i? >> rudy: since you can't prove it, there's no obstruction. and finally, if he had fired him there wouldn't have

mcgann didn't do it. trump pushed back, mcgann didn't do it.cgann was ready to quit, he stayed on six months longer and left in apparently in good standing. trump there by was saved from one of his worst and most foolish impulses by his staff something that happened before. but the bottom. line is, the investigation proceeded to its conclusion, and the investigator was unable to assert that trump had, indeed, committed the crime of obstruction of justice, where we are. believe me, the episodes cited in the report, that relate to be obstruction of justice?-- obstruction of justice we'll hear about them from now until election day and possibly beyond. >> tucker: in 30 seconds, if the president is not allowed to fire than executive branch employee, then, i mean, the basic principle of democracy is inoperative, that elected officials get to run the government. how do we get to a place where you can't fire an independent counsel?l? >> well, your point is well taken, you can't infer obstruction of justice from the firing of a subordinate, it's intent

with the president said to don mcgann contemporaneously, or what he remembers six months later when bob mueller steam is questioning him? >> sandra: if you don't mind standing by, i'm going to bring martha maccallum back in. martha, rudy giuliani began the interview saying that we are very happy. he called this a clear victory. we know that william barr is set to testify may 1st and 2nd, and now the house judiciary wants to hear from robert mueller himself by the end of may. >> whether or not robert mueller ties to testify in front of congress will be one of the interesting data points to watch as this story unfolds. he has been completely behind the scenes for the entire two-year course of this investigation, choosing to keep his wants to do that. it's another sort of -- you could say it's somewhat of an arbitrary deadline that has been placed by the democratic majority in the house to ask him that he has to come by may 23rd. we will see whether or not he decides to do that. i just want to point to one every here, which is of interest. if you remember our coverage of this over the last

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the judiciary committee has subpoenaed former white house lawyer don mcgann. according to the mueller report, mcgann threatened to quit instead of carrying out president trump's instructions to fire mueller. >> we have to hear from other people, like don mcgann. we have to get the entire report >> it's been subpoenaed the justice department provided a fuller version democrats refuse to review it. >> so mcgann's subpoena, the report subpoena, and there's a third one, too house oversight committee is trying to get their hands on financial records for president trump's businesses his attorneys have gone to court, brian, to fight that. they want to block it. >> all right tracie potts in d.c. tracie, thank you very much. have a great day see you tomorrow still to come, get ready for an absolute deluge of quarterly results. it is the busiest week of earnings season. more than 140 s&p 500 companies are going to show off their numbers, including a dozen dow stongs and two big fang names. the bulls looking to take lyft for a spin despite the stock being hammered after

and in his opinion it could be very damaging to hear don mcgann say that.one of the reasons the president does not want him to testify. it was also interesting then to have hillary clinton reference watergate where she said in this op-ed, quote, executive privilege could not be used to shield criminal conduct. she is suggesting and referencing that element of the investigation saying that executive privilege could not be used there. she's saying that was the right decision and it should be applied this time as well. it's not a situation where democrats pursue impeachment or focus on trying to win the election and focus on issues that could help americans, that it should be a slower process, a rush to judgment for her own husband's impeachment versus watergate. >> and politically maybe the democrats have moved on. on the raw politics here maybe some of the candidates wish she would zip it. she does lay out here a very important point. i defy to you find somebody who has the experience that she has on so many of the issues that touch on what we're talking abo

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and when case allegations that the president urged don mcgann to fire mueller but mcgann refused.evidence was not enough for recommending charges. based on the facts we are unable to reset judgment. accordingly this report does not conclude the president committed a crime, it does not exonerate him. democrats are jumping on that calling for more investigations and for mueller to appear on the hill but this news is not lost on white house counsel kellyanne conway. >> we accepting apologies for anyone feels the grace and offering them. there was no collusion and no criminal conspiracy with any russians. >> reporter: the question is, quote, what will democrats do? will we see democrats pushing for impeachment? that remains to be seen. rob: as the trump administration claims victory, some unsatisfied democrats are calling for impeachment. >> hold the president accountable. does that mean impeachment? >> that is one possibility, there are others. we have to get to the bottom of what happened and take whatever action seems necessary. jillian: how green hasn't changed his tune since his

the mcgann question is so key on obstruction. right? mr. meadows: no, it's not. what did he obstruct? you tell me. bob: i want to mare more from dan mcgann about the president's -- [talking simultaneously] mr. meadows: what's the crime? bob: obstruction of justice. i'm not saying it's a crime. i'm saying we want to hear more. mr. meadows: of what crime? bob: i don't understand the republican resistance from aring from done mc-- don mcgann. here's the question. if we're going to do that, why would we not look at the crime? what is the crime that was committed? bob: it's for congress to investigate. mr. meadows: investigate what? bob: to investigate the president's intent in these interactions with don mcgann. mr. meadows: intent not -- you intent on s of obstructing on what crime, what crime, guys? you obstruct in an investigation of what crime? bob: it was an ongoing investigation. mr. meadows: but it completed. the investigation was completed. bob: it was ongoing when -- mr. meadows: even in the mueller report -- [talking simultaneously] mr. meadows: if the pres

don mcgahn's uncle pat. >> literally donald could ask pat mcgann to do anything and he would do it forus li don mcgahn had his limits with donald trump. >> reporter: so what had they think of don mcgahn? the president is putting him down, but he as also the man who appears to have saved the trump presidency. >>> joining us now, rick filkins, counsel to the republicans during bill clinton's impeachment, and impeachment attorney ross garver, he's also a cnn analyst. ross, do you think the president would be indicted for obstruction if he weren't the sitting president? >> hard to say. i need the obstructive act, a nexus and i need corrupt intent. it's hard to take this situation outside of the white house. i've heard the argument that one of the reason he wasn't indicted is because there wasn't an underlying crime or one of the reasons he couldn't le charged with the crime is there wasn't an underlying crime that's an argument that generally doesn't hold water with respect to everyday people. >> i spoke with another attorney who said it would have been a slam dunk if he weren't a sitting

reporter: they try to force them to pull over the entire report, announced another subpoena, don mcgann, the chairman is asking for more documents and public testimony on may 21st. when it comes to impeachment reporters at the white house easter egg roll asked donald trump if he's worried about it, his answer not even a little bit. shannon: thank you very much. as democrats fret over how impeachment could impact voter support, candidates appeared divided as they try to gauge how independents are feeling about the i word. kristin fisher joins us from manchester. >> reporter: 5 democratic contenders have been facing off in back to back townhalls on cnn. all of them have been asked about impeachment and elizabeth moran says she is for it but less than an hour ago, senator kamala harris joining her by saying this. >> i believe congress should take a step toward impeachment. >> warren had challenged her colleagues to take a stand on the president's actions detailed in the mueller report and vote. >> if there are people in the house or the senate who want to say that is what a president can d

to fire mueller but mcgann refused. that is just one of the areas of possible obstruction. and democrats say they determined whether or not to move forward with impeachment. >> too early to talk about that. you will have to follow the evidence where it leads. it was probably written to provide congress a roadmap. >> the number 2 democrat in the house is urging his party to pass impeachment. the majority leader told cnn's deanna bash, what we have seen today, moving forward on impeachment is not worthwhile at this point. there is an election in 18 months and the american people will make a judgment. for the white house they say the judgment is clear. >> no collusion, no obstruction. >> complete exoneration the president says. this has been a political proctology exam and he has a clean bill of health. but that exam not over yet. chairman nadler requesting the special counsel robert mueller himself testify before his committee as we know attorney general william barr will testify at the beginning of next month. shannon: t

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house insider in a future player in the special counsel narrative, former white house counsel don mcgann is the subject of that subpoena. the weighting response from the trump team, john roberts starts us off tonight without breaking news. good evening? >> good evening, waiting a response, unknown if the white house will get executive privilege, also unclear at this point how much more congress can learn again that is not already known. remember that the special counsel robert mueller interviewed him, and did not find criminal obstruction of justice. but this is the latest in a blizzard of subpoenas expected to come down off of capitol hill, but while it is short of impeachment, no doubt will tie the white house in knots. >> at the annual easter egg roll, president trump weighed in on talk of impeachment, taking a what? me, worry? approach. >> are you worried about impeachment? >> the president's confidence would show the sinking of the democratic leadership, and house speaker nancy pelosi writing while our view rains from perceiving the investigation of the mueller report to impeachment

mcgann refuses. 0f to arrange for to be sacked. mcgann refuses.ueller report says they were mostly unsuccessful, largely because the persons who surrounded the president declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests. the new attorney general has weighed in sympathetically, almost saying the behaviour of the president was justified as the special counsel ‘s report acknowledges, there is substantial evidence to show that the president was frustrated and angered by his sincere belief that the investigation was undermining his presidency, propelled by his political opponents and fuelled by illegal leaks. on the other question of whether there was collusion between the trump campaign and the russians, a clean bill of health. the mueller report is being devoured on capitol hill, debated online. democrats do not buy the line that the president did nothing wrong. even the president did nothing wrong. eve n eve n the president did nothing wrong. even even in its incomplete form, however, the mueller report, input com plete however, the mueller rep

and therefore, the white house is going to be the one to respond to this, not mcgann and mcgann's lawyers at the end of the day because these issues all pertain, for the most part, to his time as counsel for the president, and therefore, will be subject to executive privilege, and you know, look, this went far beyond -- >> just jumping in on that, do you think mcgahn should come testify? you read the mueller report. it raised a lot of questions, right? that part with him. >> it's not mcgahn's choice as to whether he comes and testifies or not. >> why? >> because again, he had a duty and an ethical duty in the white house to serve as counsel for the president, and remember, this will have future implications. if the white house allows him to go testify, and that's what they have to do in this instance because of the executive privilege issues, if they allow him to go testify, that has significant precedent for future presidencies relative to executive branch privilege. you want presidents to be able to ask for advice from their lawyers and get advice from their lawyers in future presidenci

but he later asked don mcgann to deny that he never given that order. damaging fact, politically. whether or not anybody in the house in any number would be prepared to vote articles of impeachment based on that sort of thing is, i think, an entirely different matter. go ahead, sorry. >> harris: it's interesting, i had tom dupre and john yoo, both former deputy attorney general's of the doj, and they agreed there are unflattering facts for the president. i talked about it with kelly kellyanne. where do you take that, legally? we will move forward. brit hume, thank you for being with me. right after that newsmaking interview. appreciate it. a lot of reaction from lawmakers on both sides of the political aisle to the release of the mueller report. they continue to voice their opinions. this will probably go on for days as they peruse the 400 plus pages. some democrats accusing the attorney general of protecting the president. one congresswoman joined me next. debbie dingell. stay with me. ♪ hi i'm joan lunden. today's senior living communities have never

these include trump asking mcgann to tell the attorney general jeff sessions that he should unrecuse himself. trump also ordering don mcgahn to reach out to the justice department about firing robert mueller as special counsel. the president later pressuring don mcgahn to deny that he had ever received that order from the president once word of it leaked to "the new york times." mcgann is memorably quoted in the mueller report saying he needed to quit, leave the white house and leave the job of white house counsel because the president was asking him to do crazy -- rhymes with sp"spit". so, i mean, if don mcgahn is going to testify, you will want to see that. in terms of attorney/client privilege and executive privilege, there will certainly be a fight over that. but the white house counsel is not the president's lawyer. the white house counsel is the lawyer for the office of the president and the start of attorney/client privilege afflictions might attend to the president and some lawyer who was working directly for him not as white house counsel will not be available to shield mcga

reporter: is there a situation you can see where don mcgann is charged with perjury? pres. trump: i don't want to talk about that now. we are other things talking about, but i will respond to that at a later date. thank you. reporter: to follow-up on your comments last night, saying there is an attempted coup to topple your presidency, what do you mean by a coup? pres. trump: if you look at what has been happening in all the things you have been seeing with the insurance policy statement from two agents that are now gone, if you look at many of the -- ands of intrigue friendly, we are going to be seeing a lot over the next couple of weeks, things a lot of people have not seen. what took place here was a very terrible situation, how this ,hole ridiculous, $35 million unlimited personnel, how this all started, i think you will find it of great interest. most of you know the answer to it, anyway. the fair press, the people who know what they are doing, or the people who are indeed fair. they know the answer to it. we are going to see. but what took place over the years,riod of

but like a very good measuring stick to allow 500 witnesses to testify and most importantly don mcganns extraordinary to allow him to testify to begin with. second not to invoke a constitutional privilege namely executive privilege. in terms to justify what the president says, no one has been this transparent. it would appear that's not the case but with respect directed to fire or not fire it was not done. the president said i know how to fire someone. he knows how to fire the special counsel and did not do it. blake: but who should we believe if the president instructed it to happen? because very clearly the president says what they are saying are two different things. >> with that determination of credibility of witnesses. as those who serve in the executive branch very quick to invoke privilege it did not fit at all it is totally inappropriate. the president should get credit for the conflict of the testimony. >> and now house democrats want him to testify? does that stick? . >> and for all intents and purposes? know he did not. that is your hardluck. but the protection of the pres

hours and all we see is the exchange about the president wanted to fire the special counsel, don mcgannidn't want the special counsel fired, and that's pretty much it. the president didn't fire him so we know how that argument turned out. >> let's break this out. this is very important. in a report that is really not legal, volume two, no grand jury and there they only give us a couple, your aggressive prosecutors, you have the president's counsel they asked mcgann to fire mueller. the president said i never said that. i bet they videotaped this. i would love to see the rest of this interview. i think it can only help the president of the united states. they took what they thought was the best they could cherry pick and put it in volume two. what about the other 29 hours and 59 minutes. what else took place. number two, the president could have fired mueller anytime he wanted to. there's nothing that says he has to ask his counsel. >> the council is not in the chain of command. it's an advisor to the presidency. that's it. and the president never made any attempt to actually fire the sp

that would be surprising, but it wasn't clear who was supposed to do the talking with mcgann.as the most senior person as the white house council on this sort of official side of representing trump. you had other lawyers, people like rudy giuliani on the personal legal team. it's possible there's been some communication between them at this point, though frankly if he would even remember what he said, that's a lot of stuff to go over. you don't always know when they're asking you questions, which ones they think are really important and which ones have been brought to sort of fill in the background and confuse things. the key question is mcgann was in the room in the oval office for a lot of these discussions, including the talk about the firing of jim comey and why he could or couldn't be fired, and what reasons were acceptable. if you're trying to bear down on the president's state of mind, that's why mcgann is such a crucial player. >> as they say in "hamilton" he was in the room whether it happened there, so how much do you think he knows? >> i think don mcgahn knows a lot

you both are lawyers, alex, let me start again, what if mcgann is spilling any beans -- >> he representsnot the president and that's always been a dangerous place since watergate distinction of who do you represent. job was to represent the white house and the united states government and his co privileged and did not have good intentions, that certainly could be the focus of impeachment >> absolutely. it sounds like from reporting earlier today that it may be. eric: that? >> whether or not there's concern of some type of embarrassment there's difference if there's a high crime and misdemeanor. unless there's misdemeanor that comes out of 400-page report, congress should leave it alone and that's what congress has to boil down to. rod rosenstein, the deputy in charge of doj and the attorney general both said that there was nothing criminal here, so if there's nothing criminal there, they now need to go to congress to determine if there's any high crimes or misdemeanors which would probably be unlikely, i believe that congress should have the report and the american people should see it s

don mcgann was white house counsel for 18 months after that. the president has the right to fire any of us. he showed that by firing jim comey. he could have fired mueller. he did not do that. >> the report showed that people around him did not let him do that. mrs. conway: intent matters. intent should matter. intent has never mattered to any of you, respectfully. was there intent to collude or intent to conspire, was there an intent to steal the election from hillary clinton, i am sure for whom most of you voted. intent matters. the president's intention was not to do that. intent matters, and i know you want to cherry pick one line here or one line there, because the big lie that you let fly for two years is over. i guess if people want to investigate in congress and waste their time and not listen to people like nancy pelosi, let's talk about what her word was, kitchen table issues. let's have at it. because i present to you the document that shows that the democrat's successes -- this is the success of the democrats in congress. here it is

takers have clearly been potentially helpful to him at times when you look at for example his aides mcgann who essentially stopped the president from firing money by not carrying through on that and committing a potential obstruction of justice and if you look at the former ten tony general jeff sessions who did not limit as requested the scope of the russia investigation i mean now the trump campaign has said that the tables will be turned the lies will be investigated i think the fact that this document to now has gone from being a legal one to a political one means that the fight could become even more fierce and likely you have to actually hear from robert mueller himself. you know from i think we will the democrats the house judiciary committee have issued a letter to mr miller asking him to testify by the twenty third of may the attorney general bill barr has said he's not against that he's a friend over a bit and i think the question is what a more we will learn i think robot want to feel that he's done a thorough job as much as he could and you know today he's back at work he's han

. >> i never told don mcgann to fire mueller.ht to and frankly whether i did or he did we had the absolute right to fire mueller. i didn't do it. i am a student of history. i see what you get when you fire people. it is not good. >> he had to say that the lawyer said everything in the mueller report that mcgann said is factually accurate. why is the president trying to rewrite history. >> we are in the third year of president donald trump. this is standard operating procedure for the president. if there is something that is true and makes him look bad and something not true that makes him look better he is going with the not true. >> make sure you stay with cnn as cnn special report, presidents under fire. the history of impeachment is next and before that we have a sneak night at the cnn night of premieres. united states of america at 10:00. here is a look at the redemption project. >> we like to imagine that after there has been a verdict, that the story is over. the reality is that the offender or the victim, the journey is be

a lot of detail about the potential obstruction that the president had engaged in, orders to don mcgann then the white house counsel to direct rod rosenstein to fire robert mueller, the special counsel, mcgann refusing, offering his resignation, and ultimately staying on a while longer and telling aids that trump had asked him to do crazy stuff. i think all of that -- and to libby's point earlier, i think it was the right one i believe that the way the administration through bill barr in the letter, and today's press conference, in which he seemed to be spinning for the president to blunt the impact of the report, i think that's going to make it more difficult for speaker pelosi to resist those in her caucus who insist on an impeachment proceeding to weigh this in a way that they think is searching and fair. >> yeah, and eamon javers is alive and well he is back with us, someone pulled the plug but not on him literally. >> no censorship here. >> he's not redacted you've been there day in and day out for us you've seen the back and forth inside, the speaker's chamber and talking about th

in june the report adds the president directed then white house counsel don mcgann to call the acting attorney general and say mueller must be removed because of conflicts of interest. in the end mueller made no determination of whether the president had obstructed justice. leaving that decision to william barr. >> the president to know act to deprive the special counsel of the documents and witnesses necessary to complete his investigation. >>>>>reporter: at a white house event thursday he reacted to the conclusions. >> this should never happen to another president again. >> reporter: the justice department says it plans to provide a limited number of congress members with a copy of the report with fewer reductions in the public version. the democrats are not satisfied. >> the report contradicts the president as it does the attorney general in their sunshine spin and whitewash. >> reporter: democratic leaders have called on mueller to testify publicly about the findings as soon as possible. >> reporter: they have also asked attorney general barr to testify here in early may and that

from the line on that walk him back from the brink when you look for example at white house counsel mcgann who repeatedly they did not take action to fire the special counsel robert muller on a number of occasions despite being asked so by the president i mean many people now are talking about obstruction of justice and where the intent is enough so certainly mount is flying right now call as this document goes from being a legal one to a political one and potentially lots more documents that will be available to be looked at there if that subpoena goes through our very own helen humphrey for us in washington tonight thank you very much ukraine's presidential candidates have just wrapped up a head to head t.v. debate broadcast from the country's biggest football stadium it was one of the last big campaign events ahead of sunday's run off election between t.v. comedians a lot of mayors alinsky and incumbent president petro poroshenko opinion polls show for sanko is trailing badly and he was looking to use tonight's debates to boost his favor with voters are let's go to our correspondent nic

it does read, jeff, some critics look at it that had it not been for don mcgann and other officials noty have stepped right into obstruction of justice. >> that's the irony of the fact that the president and don mcgann had a rough relationship, particularly at the end of mcgahn's term of the white house, we are getting further along on the report then mueller wanted. >> bret: here is what rudy giuliani had to say about mcgahn. >> it's demonstrably false. asked jim comey if he can fire somebody. if he was really upset that sessions wasn't fired or wanted him fired, he would've fired him. >> bret: the thing is, byron, the bombshell. you are looking for the thing like, can you believe, page 67. there are some interesting reads and embarrassing stuff and people were very upset about certain things. but i don't know. >> no big, new bombshells. we knew most everything in it. it's extraordinary the degree of white house cooperation in this investigation. the reason we know the scene in the oval office when trump first finds out that mueller has been appointed and says this is the worst thing t

up for scheduled testimony, and now trying to block a subpoena for former white house counsel don mcgann. attempts at oversight to the special counsel's investigation. >> i thought after two years we would be finished with it. no, now the house goes and starts subpoenaing they want to know every deal i've ever done. >> reporter: democrats don't seem worried about his promise to fight. >> we will go to the court. the courts will rule for us. the trump administration is in a delay tactic to kick the can down the road. >> reporter: on twitter today if the partisan dems ever tried to impeach i would first head to the u.s. supreme court. but it's congress that is responsible for initiating, overseeing the impeachment process not the courts. now, jake, back to that interaction between nielsen and mulvaney, a white house official pointed out that occurred at a time the president was hyper focused on the border and it shouldn't be read as implication the president is not taking election security seriously. on that note it's been almost nine months to the day since it's been publicly dismroesed t