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mcgirk, you were raised in an irish catholic home as was i. and you were raised on long island, right? >> in the south bronks actually. >> bill: in the bronks. okay. so working people, ethnic people, religious people, and everybody pretty much was parented the same way. got out of line u got a whack and there was some crazy parents, but there was a uniformity toward it in america. now, did they go overboard these parents? sure. i think. i never hit my kids, ever. i mean, i can control them and get my lessons across without physical. >> well you're pretty scary. >> bill: i am scary guy. but what has happened, though, that has led american parenting down this permissive road? >> a few things. becoming more and more obvious we live in a stupid, hedonistic, selfish, narcissistic immediate gratification kind of society and dan quayle allude to do it, got vilified for the single mom thing and president obama finally got around to it about a week or two ago. that's a factor. and these dopes in the entertainment culture, these dopey reality shows that