with very little fanfare, yet ended up making many of the same changes that mcgovern fraser commission did. it did not go quite as far, but did open up the process significantly. and one reason is because -- that they were able to successful is there is this faction in the republican party, goldwater being the primitive or early example that basically says the establishment is against us and therefore the war we can open up the process to ordinary voters, the more we will succeed. the second thing is, i disagree with your comment that the 2012 reforms in work. it actually did significantly frontload the process. in the following sense that the process for the republicans in 2012 begins with eight weeks in which there is only a single word to primaries. -- single or two primaries. the classic example, the kind of thing it allows, newt gingrich unexpectedly wins south carolina primary and for a couple of days is in the lead nationally in all the polls. romney is able to come back because the next primary is in for another like 10 days or something like that. it is interesting to note tha