mcgreevy: absolutely. ofquestion braided in terms disillusionment and the struggle to figure out what the right message is and terms of dealing with the problem of sexual abuse and all of the trauma that causes young people and all of those who are abused. in a certain sense, it has been going on 50 years, but the public scandal has been going on since 2002, although there's some famous early cases we can now trace back to the 1980's and 90's. the frustration is that it has been since 2002 and it seems not to have been resolved. the good news is that it does seem like there are very few new cases since 2002, that is what we are seeing right now. we're still seeing uncovering of more evidence of coverups before 2002. my own view is it -- everything has to be opened up. steve: the pope, have you view his role? prof. mcgreevy: i'm so pathetic. he's an 18 year -- 82-year-old argentinian mail. we have to keep that in mind. -- male. we have to keep that in mind. this is not a person who things about gender and s

john mcgreevy, professor at the university of notre dame talks about 20th century catholic politics and politicians. he compares the challenges faced by our smith and john kennedy and they each ran for president. the currentesses sexual abuse scandal in the catholic church. interview was recorded at the annual american historical association meeting.

i had the pleasure in new jersey, thanks to our chairman of the board with former governor mcgreevy andis relationship with the unions, as well as thanks to the motor vehicle office and my friends and the state bar. we developed a program which were stored over 400 drivers licenses in the three years i ran the program. thanks to jim, we were able to get so many of those folks into the building trade unions. you have folks who have never had drivers licenses going on to be laborers and carpenters. host: if you have had experience in the kernel justice system or if you have served time in a federal or state prison, we would love to hear from you. our phone number is (202) 748-8002. cj is next, joining us from richfield, minnesota. good morning. caller: good morning to you and happy easter. thank you for letting me get a chance to get in on this. back in the day when president obama went into the prison system, he was the first sitting president to go into a federal penitentiary. democracy cover the story for the two weeks he was in there. when i heard it mainstream, it went like this. pre