what was john dean -- june 19th he was meeting with mitchell mcgruder at which meeting jeb mcgruder was told to have a fire, to burn some documents, incriminating evidence. then on june 23rd, they decided when it was reported to them that there was some money involved that had perhaps been laundered in mexico that money had that had gone to the creep, what did they do? when the president got ahold of the cia to determine if the cia shouldn't influence the fbi, not to pursue that because of covert activities. for awhile the cia agreed. they found there was absolutely nothing to hide. they went back. dean still persisted and wanted them not to interview witnesses that were relevant. what did they do on june 23rd? they established john dean. pat gray on july 6th, the director of the so incensed that after a meeting with walders, e he first called mcgruder and then the president called him and pat ray felt compelled to tell the president some of your top staff are mortally wounding you. . then we go into the poerd of the 15th. the president finally did meet john dean. the president after ta

he said, well, the guy that said yes is mcgruder. we go down the hall and get mcgruder, he sits on the bed and we start idle chatter. we're all in prison it's all over, we're paying or price for this. why did we get into this thing, why did we approve watergate in the first place? why did we decide to go in there for intelligence? what did we want to find. he got red in the face, nervous, agitated and walked out, he never answered us. we just shook our heads, because he was the guy who gave it the green light. later he said the president told him to, that's ridiculous. i don't believe it for a minute. >> you don't believe it? >> no. >> what about mitchell? >> mitchell did. the president always protected mitchell, he had too protect mitchell? >> why? >> because he felt about mitchell the way i did about hunt, only more so. john mitchell didn't want to come here, his wife's an alcoholic, i could never do anything to hurt mitchell. i think there he really felt a special loyalty that would have been different than with me, i was a young

he said, well, the guy that said yes is mcgruder. we go down the hall and get mcgruder, he sits on the bed and we start idle chatter. we're all in prison it's all over, we're paying or price for this. why did we get into this thing, why did we approve watergate in the first place? why did we decide to go in there for intelligence? what did we want to find. he got red in the face, nervous, agitated and walked out, he never answered us. we just shook our heads, because he was the guy who gave it the green light. later he said the president told him to, that's ridiculous. i don't believe it for a minute. >> you don't believe it? >> no. >> what about mitchell? >> mitchell did. the president always protected mitchell, he had too protect mitchell? >> why? >> because he felt about mitchell the way i did about hunt, only more so. john mitchell didn't want to come here, his wife's an alcoholic, i could never do anything to hurt mitchell. i think there he really felt a special loyalty that would have been different than with me, i was a young

he said, well, the guy that said yes is mcgruder. we go down the hall and get mcgruder, he sits on the bed and we start idle chatter. we're all in prison it's all over, we're paying or price for this. why did we get into this thing, why did we approve watergate in the first place? why did we decide to go in there for intelligence? what did we want to find. he got red in the face, nervous, agitated and walked out, he never answered us. we just shook our heads, because he was the guy who gave it the green light. later he said the president told him to, that's ridiculous. i don't believe it for a minute. >> you don't believe it? >> no. >> what about mitchell? >> mitchell did. the president always protected mitchell, he had too protect mitchell? >> why? >> because he felt about mitchell the way i did about hunt, only more so. john mitchell didn't want to come here, his wife's an alcoholic, i could never do anything to hurt mitchell. i think there he really felt a special loyalty that would have been different than with me, i was a young

what was john dean -- june 19th he was meeting with mitchell mcgruder at which meeting jeb mcgruder was told to have a fire, to burn some documents, incriminating evidence. then on june 23rd, they decided when it was reported to them that there was some money involved that had perhaps been laundered in mexico that money had that had gone to the creep, what did they do? when the president got ahold of the cia to determine if the cia shouldn't influence the fbi, not to pursue that because of covert activities. for awhile the cia agreed. they found there was absolutely nothing to hide. they went back. dean still persisted and wanted them not to interview witnesses that were relevant. what did they do on june 23rd? they established john dean. pat gray on july 6th, the director of the so incensed that after a meeting with walders, e he first called mcgruder and then the president called him and pat ray felt compelled to tell the president some of your top staff are mortally wounding you. . then we go into the poerd of the 15th. the president finally did meet john dean. the president after ta

one of results, the fruits come back mcgruder told me at the time contemporaneously and he told me and he is testified to this fact also, any way he has testified to this very clearly that what happened is the results were such junk that mitchell called him and after he looks of this material and says listen, this stuff is worthless. it's not worth what we paid for it. macgruder loves this. in fact. >> host: he's the number two in the election. >> guest: number two and mcgruder's opinion was lydia self-starter had to clean this up on his own and didn't tell anybody who's going to break into watergate a second time that their original plan in their briefings were to break into mcgovern's headquarters. so it's clear that libby takes his group back in the second time. he claims that he told hans and the others that mitchell insisted on it. well i don't think mitchell insisted on it at all. i think he told on the stuff he had gotten was junk. and libby is a highly manipulative person. when he put together his book will i think he tried to do an honest account. but he does it bother eight y

i think i'm going to take sergeant mcgruder on the road. i'm going to have him introduce me wherever i go. [ laughter ] he got me excited. and i get introduced all the time so thank you james for your incredible service to our country. give james a big round of applause. [ cheers and applause ] i also want to say a big thanks to america's new secretary of veterans affair bob mcdonald who is here. stand up, bob. and some of you may know bob headed up one of the biggest most u successful companies in the world. but he also is a west point grad, also a ranger who served valiantly on behalf of this country. this is a labor of love for him. he has hit the ground running. he is heading out to v.a. hospitals andicallyics around the country, starting with phoenix tomorrow. so thank you bob for accepting this charge and this challenge and making sure that we are doing right by our veterans. i know you are going to do a great job. really proud of him. i want to thank all the members of congress who are here today. i especially want to thank those who

picked up the phone, called mcgruder, said, these guys are complaining about making a decision. do what you have to do. and hung up the phone. that was really the extent of my involvement with liddy completely. and hunter had more involvement with him. hunter, i used him in the itt case. and he would come by my office, and when i felt like talking, because he was an engaging guy. interesting storyteller. great novelist. wrote great books. and cia operative. very secretive about it. i would listen to his tales and thought they were fascinating. >> you both went to brown. >> yep. >> did you know each other through the brown alumni? >> yep. i was the president of it in washington. and he would come to meetings. i knew he was with the cia. so i knew him slightly. not really well. and then he -- when he left the cia, he came to work for robert bennett, bennett associates. and made an appointment to come see me. and this was before all this pentagon paper stuff. and he said to me, i'm out of the cia now, but i have a lot of experience in this area. if i can help the white house in any

. >> -- sergeant major mcgruder on the road. i'm just going to have him introduce me wherever i go. he got me excited. and i get introduced all the time. so thank you, james, for your incredible service to our country. give james a big round of applause. so make sure every veteran has access to the care and benefits that they've earned. senator bernie sanders. representative jeff miller, give them a big round of applause. thank you. thanks for the good work. and we are all grateful to our outstanding veterans service organizations for all the work that they do on behalf of our veterans and their families. so thank you very much to all of the veteran service organizations. most of all i want to thank general buchanan and sergeant major turnbull and all of you who serve here at fort belvoir. for nearly a century, this base has helped keep america safe and secure. the 29th infantry division, the blue and gray, were some of the first to storm omaha beach. in recent years, many of have you deployed to iraq and afghanistan. and you've risked your lives on multiple tours to defend our nati

picked up the phone, called mcgruder, said, these guys are complaining about making a decision. do what you have to do. and hung up the phone. that was really the extent of my involvement with liddy completely. and hunter had more involvement with him. hunter, i used him in the itt case. and he would come by my office, and when i felt like talking, because he was an engaging guy. interesting storyteller. great novelist. wrote great books. and cia operative. very secretive about it. i would listen to his tales and thought they were fascinating. >> you both went to brown. >> yep. >> did you know each other through the brown alumni? >> yep. i was the president of it in washington. and he would come to meetings. i knew he was with the cia. so i knew him slightly. not really well. and then he -- when he left the cia, he came to work for robert bennett, bennett associates. and made an appointment to come see me. and this was before all this pentagon paper stuff. and he said to me, i'm out of the cia now, but i have a lot of experience in this area. if i can help the white house in any

picked up the phone, called mcgruder, said, these guys are complaining about making a decision. do what you have to do. and hung up the phone. that was really the extent of my involvement with liddy completely. and hunter had more involvement with him. hunter, i used him in the itt case. and he would come by my office, and when i felt like talking, because he was an engaging guy. interesting storyteller. great novelist. wrote great books. and cia operative. very secretive about it. i would listen to his tales and thought they were fascinating. >> you both went to brown. >> yep. >> did you know each other through the brown alumni? >> yep. i was the president of it in washington. and he would come to meetings. i knew he was with the cia. so i knew him slightly. not really well. and then he -- when he left the cia, he came to work for robert bennett, bennett associates. and made an appointment to come see me. and this was before all this pentagon paper stuff. and he said to me, i'm out of the cia now, but i have a lot of experience in this area. if i can help the white house in any

takenk i'm going to sergeant major mcgruder on the road. [laughter] i need him to introduce me wherever i go. he got me excited. and i get introduced all the time. so, thank you, james, for your incredible service to our country. give james a big round of applause. [applause] i also want to say a big thanks to america's new secretary of veterans affairs, bob donald -- bob mcdonald, who is here. [applause] bobsome of you may know headed up one of the biggest, most successful companies in the world, but he also was a west point grad. also a ranger who served valiantly on behalf of of his country. this is a labor of love for him and he has hit the ground running. he is heading out to va hospital's around the country, heading out to phoenix tomorrow. thank you, bob, for taking this challenge and making sure we do right by our veterans. i know you are going to do an incredible job. [applause] i want to thank all the members of congress here today. i especially want to thank those who led the fight to give water give bob and the be a more resourc

i think i'm going to take sergeant major mcgruder on the road. [laughter] i'm just going to have them introduce me where ever i go. he got me excited, and i'm being -- i get introduce all the time. so thank you, james, for your incredible served our country. give james a big round of applause. [applause] >> i also want to say a big thanks to america's new secretary of veterans affairs, bob mcdonnell who is here. stand up, bob. [applause] >> as some of you may know, bob head of one of the biggest, most successful companies in the world. but he also was a west point grad, also a ranger who served valiantly on behalf of his country. and this is a labor of love for him, and he is hit the ground running. he's heading out to the hospitals and clinics around the country, starting with phoenix tomorrow. so thank you, bob, for accepting this charge and this challenge, making sure that we're doing right by our veterans. i know you're going to do a great job. really proud of him. [applause] >> i want to thank all the members of congress who are here today,

i think i'm going to take sergeant major mcgruder on the road.ughter] i'm just going to have them introduce me where ever i go. he got me excited, and i'm being -- i get introduce all the time. so thank you, james, for your incredible served our country. give james a big round of applause.