trish: joining me, retired lieutenant colonel robert mcinnes. turkey doing something they shouldn't can doing already? >> if you understand what president erdogan is trying to accomplish, i think the listener will appreciate. it's not that different from what we have with our own southern border. he has had what he considers a terrorist organization to the south of his border working with the terrorist organization north of the border. he has 3.5 refugees from that region. he wants them to go home. it's draining his economy. there are a host of reasons for erdogan to do this, and damascus -- trish: we are look at the fire. we have seen women running with their kid. does it really need that kind of brutality? he control the air space. if they had a phone call couldn't he say, hey, erdogan, no way. what he just said right there. if turkey pulled something they shouldn't pull, we are going to do something about it. they did do something. turkey went in and there are people that are victims of erdogan right now. people that by the way, sir, fought w