except if he is mckeesport, he's rich. >> i don't know about that. gov. kasich: thank you. thank you. see you guys. >> we didn't get a chance to ask the question, but seeing you put the school loans and because you can get the loan without any faster -- gov. kasich: that's another thing i should have mentioned. people get the loans and they use them for things beyond. somebody told me i forget the number, it was extraordinarily high. they use it to buy a car, do their rent. >> that's what they do. the university keeps raising their rates. gov. kasich: you know what i said, why don't you lower your price? and he said if we lowered our price people want come here. >> right now we are really unhappy about the changes that have taken place in the nonprofit sector and that type of thing where ing. the outright theft is unbelievable. they have been made the gatekeepers for welfare. if you are entitled to this, i get find an outrageous amount. gov. kasich: there's two things. it's interesting. look, we are not managing it. >> i mean, i'm no fan. gov. kasich: i'm just saying if you