mckenna kelly, explain what we mean by this term a tech and what the tech's relationship has been when it comes to getting involved in presidential campaigns in recent years. >> they tech qualifies a handful of major tech companies in the united states. that would be meta-which was previously facebook. google as well, microsoft. i think openai is becoming into this big tech definition as well. over the last couple years, i think predominantly when you look at spending at the top of the decade, a lot of these big tech companies were funding democratic efforts. eric schmitt, who used to be a big leader in google, he is one of the premier democratic fundraisers. he has been involved in a lot of democratic politics. famously supported hillary clinton and now other democratic candidates. they've been for the rapid democratic politics for a long time. but we are seeing now is a switch amongst a small number of the silicon valley venture-capital founders making that switch over to trump and saying out loud and posting about it all the time. host: where does this spending come from? is there a

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. >> we're talking with mckenna kelly, wired magazine, and we're talking about big tech. e lines as issue, 202-748-8001 republicans. democrats 202-748-8000. independents, 8002. makena kelly, explain what we mean by the term big tech and what big tech's relationship has been when it comes to getting involved in presidential campaigns in recent years? >> sure, big tech qualifies a handful of major tech companies in the united states. that would be meta, previously facebook and its platform instagram. we have google as well, microsoft, i think open ai is now becoming, you know, wrapped into this big tech definition as well, and over the last couple of years, i mean, i think predominantly when you look at the spending from, you know, the top of this decade. a lot of what the big tech companies were doing were funding efforts. eric schmidt used to be a big leader in google, one of the premier democratic fundraisers, he's been involved in a lot of democratic politics, really famously supported hillary clinton and other democrats and they've been enwrapped in democratic politics

"wired" magazine senior writer mckenna kelly is a guest and ms. kelly want to start with each candidates relationship with silicon valley. start with kamala harris and how would you describe her relationship with silicon valley boat as vice president and in a previous roles as a defendant and attorney general of california? >> kamala harris is actually one of the first dino vice presidents to be from the bay area. she grew up in oakland, and she does have a pretty good relationship with the tech sector. what's important to note with dep harris is at she has a really sad too much. even as can even in her role as offender she wasn't really an that role during the times in which a lot of tech policy was been discussing whether that was privacy or antitrust or other issues like that. as the vice president xi's done a little bit more work. she leads the ai initiative at the white house where she saw what ai leaders, stakeholders, labor groups to create some kind of framework for regulating the ai industry. but really all we get from her is this sentime