mckinley speaks, our next speakers. those are all the cards i have. >> i am an independent curator in san francisco with mckinley art solutions. i am out of district 9. it needs to be emphatically stated that in order for the america's cup event to have a significant and positive cultural impact on the city of san francisco, it needs to be relevant to as many constituents as possible. the of that need a cultural ambassador and that ambassador is the arts. speaking to the role that the visual arts can play as a connector to the community, the opportunity exists for engagement with most if not all of the city's districts through the development of exhibits that hold traditional allies such as galleries, art centers, community centers and artists' studios as well as non- traditional venues. already discussions have begun between performance venues and visual arts to produce complementary exhibit. if you understand the added, a picture is worth 1000 words, and encourage artists to investigate the elements paramount to the a

should mckinley sitting on the joint chief of staff or not. >> i testified and recommended that not be the case, primarily because there were questions about lines of authority and representation with respect to the serving chief of service. >> right. >> and this was true for all the services. the bottom line is we've made the recommendation, we did that before the senate armed services committee a month ago. the congress will decide and we'll implement what they decide. >> the u 2 reconnaissance aircraft, it's busier than it's ever been. years ago it was first was 2009, then in 12, and now in 2015 that the global hawk is to replace the u 2. but there are those who say the global hawk doesn't have the capacity to replace the u 2 and the best approach is to have both of these airplanes because they do different sorts of mission. what do you say? is the u 2 going to be retired in 2015. >> at the moment we're scheduled to keep the u 2 on board until 2015. it will give us an opportunity to continue to evaluate the global hawk in terms of capacity, in terms of sensor availability and so on.

why is william mckinley so high? arnold: a lot of people don't realize william mckinley was quite an activist president. he was -- he secured the philippines for the americans. he helped liberate cuba. there were many things that he did that actually on this political greatness scale scored him -- gave him higher points than some of the other kind of presidents. i might mention, too, as you rank them, if you were to look at those rankings compared to some of the rankings that have been given for presidents of the 20th century, you would find a very high correlation. it's surprising how close that is to what others have independently come up with on i don't know what kind of measures. brian: on the other end of the scale, the one that got the least number of points, somebody named steyn, who was with the orange free state starting in power in 1899. do you know who that was? arnold: he just simply accomplished nothingment brian: he got a two. arias of panama got three, joseph cook of australia got 5, samuel doe of libe

mckinley national park, which had been in existence since 1917, was also affected by the alaska lands act. its area was nearly tripled in size--2.4 million more acres to the park itself, plus an additional 1.3 million acres in two national preserves next to it--a dramatically larger expansion than even adolph murie had proposed just before his retirement. the old park, surrounded by the new additions, was now officially designated a wilderness, bringing with it even greater protections to the land and animals murie had championed. and as if to symbolize all that had happened, the park's name was changed to reflect its deeper history. it would revert to the athabaskan indian name for the tremendous mountain at its core--denali, the high one. cook: history will, of course, view the creation of those national parks along with seward's purchase of alaska. history will show that it was the right thing to do. coyote: john cook would soon go back to the lower 48 to become superintendent of great smoky mountains national park. as his father and his father's father had done, he would pass on h

running mate in 1900 and now, following mckinley's assassination in 1901, the youngest president in united states history. man: the president unites in himself powers and qualities that rarely go together... the qualities of a man of action with those of a scholar and writer... the instincts and accomplishments of the best breeding and culture with the broadest democratic sympathies. he is doubtless the most vital man on the continent if not on the planet, today. john burroughs. coyote: not since thomas jefferson a century earlier had there been an american president with greater interest in the natural world. jenkinson: roosevelt began his life as a naturalist. he formed theodore roosevelt's natural history museum as a child, and he was a taxidermist. he would find snakes and mice and other creatures and sometimes store them in the refrigerator, the icebox of his family. several maids quit over this. the house smelled of taxidermy. he had formaldehyde everywhere. this was a young boy who was fascinated by the idea of the museum and nature but all of this is preliminary. it wasn't u

mckinley of west virginia. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 479, the gentleman from west virginia, mr. mckinley, and a member opposed each will control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from west virginia. mr. mckinley: thank you, mr. chairman. i rise today to offer an amendment that would reduce the threshold for a major rule from $100 million or more to $50 million. this would ensure greater accountability. let's keep this in perspective. i based this amendment on legislation that has already been adopted by the house in 1995 with bipartisan support, to -- which lowered the threshold to $50 million. it passed with a vote of 277-141 . with much of today's leadership who were here at the time supporting it. also in perspective, in fiscal year 2011 only 2.6% of all the rules that were classified as major and in 2010, in f.y. -- only 3% met that criteria. let's keep that in consideration. would you be satisfied with only 2% or 3% of your food being inspected? or 2% or 3% of the aircraft and

i am married with two children, my kids go the mckinley school in the neighborhood. i woown a flat. my policy work is quite relative to the area plan and non-profit. i have been on the cac from the beginning and i was involved in crafting the plan and i feel as though we have been carrying out a difficult task of trying to figure out how to actually implement the plans that the city produces. it has never really been done before. other than the redevelopment areas that are kind of a turnkey approach. our planning work in the city has traditionally and that plans. we have an opportunity here to figure out how much more smoothly create the infrastructure to implement them. there are a number of things we have done over the years. i have a thankless benefits of being the chair. it was something that the market octavia cac was very involved in. it is something the financing tool can be put into place. how do you actually do in kind improvements? it was a tremendous -- i was the lead on that as well with the department. we also work to create a land dedication policy as an alternative to

here is the story of the mckinley kids.y were told they had to pick up their gift from the airport because it was too big to mail. the gift, of course, was their dad. first sergeant david mckinley came home earlier than expected and he was more than willing to share in the surprise. look at that. >> to come back and surprise them like this not only with just my family here, but with everyone else, with the crowd clapping and watching. it's a good moment. >> you lost your baby teeth. >> daddy, how did you get here? >> arthel: david's family pooled their frequent flyer miles together for his ticket after he was shipped home early. >> rick: isn't that nice? what a great surprise. all right. the criteria for becoming president may not be as stiff as you think. why iowa voters say a candidate's personality matters as much if not more than their policies. we'll explain. capital one's new cash rewards card gives you a 50 percent annual bonus. so you earn 50 percent more cash. if you're not satisfied with 50% more cash, send it bac

the first is tony kelly, petra shuman, matt mckinley, and others. i will call the rest is to come up.

[applause] >> does that mean the wizard is mark hanna running the campaign of william mckinley and sat on his front porch the entire time? >> a lot of interpretations. >> this is the interpretation. it arose the same time the wizard of oz came out. the arthur, frank baum, never acknowledged that this was what he was doing and i don't know if he decided ok, hy didn't actually do it but if people want to read into it was a will may be so, maybe he thought it was better if he never did and it may simply have been -- it may simply have been people reading into it what they wanted to read into it. i think it was something in between. there were certain imagery that would have come naturally to anyone of populist leanings during that period. and so the fact that dorothy is theodore backwards is a stretch. you would really have to turn theodore roosevelt on his head. it is an interesting story. historians have been dining out on it ever since and frank baum is long since dead so he can't deny it. >> one more question and we will take questions from the audience. you can cue up over here with

. >> here is where students at william mckinley junior high school go to learn on their own time. >> we mostly come at 7:00 in the morning, and sometimes we stay after school. we've even spent our lunch periods in mr. buxton's class, trying to get in as much work as we can. >> no extra credit. all they get is a cup of hot chocolate. >> language-arts teacher tom buxton dreamed up the project -- a giant mural that stretches half the length of a football field. it started when a student approached mr. buxton with an unusual piece of art. >> a young lady handed me a refrigerator magnet that had an image of rosie the riveter on it. >> rosie the riveter is a popular image from world war ii, created by american artist norman rockwell. >> and when i thought about it, it resembled an image on the sistine chapel ceiling. i checked it out. sure enough, that's what it was. it was isaiah. isn't that cool? >> isaiah is one of the prophets on the famous ceiling in rome. renaissance artist michelangelo painted isaiah 300 years before rockwell used the figure as a model for rosie the riveter. >> when

and the republican party of mark hanna and the old mckinley machine didn't trust t.r. he was considered an iconoclast and individualist and the cowboy notion. ross perot, his father was a cotton broker. but also was a -- broke horses, went to cattle auctions, considered himself a bit of a texas cowboy. and everything about theodore roosevelt is impressed ross perot. and i think gave him courage, if t.r. can do a bull moose party, why can't i run in 1992? and churchill it gout woes saying, anybody who loves -- it goes without saying, anybody who loves grit, winston churchill is your figure and the two people he admires most. in his office a portrait of george washington and talks about the founding fathers. but which founding father ross perot is like, i thought about in today. patrick henry. we always talk about the other founding fathers, the ones who become president. but this is about the contenders. and how do you have an american revolution woult that figure like patrick henry, an irritant? those are the type of people that ross perot admires. >> next is a call fr

mark hanna, the rosario of mckinley's career, produced this new republican majority. it did not happen and george w. bush was not as successful a president as william mckinley. >> we come from lincoln, nebraska and where william jennings bryan served two terms in the state house of house of representatives. frank joins us from salem, illinois. the home town -- the birthplace of william jennings bryan. >> yes, we have most places open to the public, if you call in advance. [laughter] how much influence did he have in getting his brother nominated in 1924 to be the vice-presidential candidate? >> that is a sidelight that many people did not know about. the governor of nebraska then, on him for giving his first name. charles bryan, the brother of william jennings bryan, he was coming out of a tumultuous convention in 1944. it was notable because of his name, and at that time william jennings bryan was a very divisive figure in the party. partly because of the klan debate and partly for other reasons. but the bryan name was still something that democrats hoped would help

flood advisories the brain tally in kankakee to 36 and mckinley park and naperville over an inch of rainfall support this season. over 8 in. the west has turned colder northwest wind blowing tomorrow breezy colder 25 degrees apart the sunny and cold but not nearly as wendy on friday high temperature in the mid 30's and the snowfall for christmas? could be dicey showing you what we could see right now in the update coming up in 10 minutes. >> coming up chicago ladybugs worms helping to feed the city year-round farming not in a field. ♪ ♪ hershey's drops. a lot of hershey's happiness in a little drop of chocolate. pure hershey's. man: my electric bill was breaking the bank. so to save some money, i trained this team of guinea pigs to row this tiny boat. guinea pig: row...row. they generate electricity, which lets me surf the web all day. guinea pig: row...row. took me 6 months to train each one, 8 months to get the guinea pig: row...row. little chubby one to yell row! guinea pig: row...row. that's kind of strange. guinea pig: row...row. such a simple word... row. anncr: there's an easier way t

the annual shop with a cop the kids cruise the aisles of the target store at 33rd and damon and mckinleycago's cops. claims that vote tampering has led to our rests in russia and why it vladimir cousins rain may be ending. a matchstick fire has left a wedding and a tour drive scrambling for new venues. the largest anti-government protests in soviet russia took place today with demonstrators sang the at was fraudulent. on a public square in moscow they demanded that the election results be handled so that a new vote could take place vladimir prudent for many formerly the russians president and now the prime minister, argentina's president kristina hernandez was sworn in for a second for your turn today with today's inauguration she becomes the only female leader in latin america is the only in the country ever to be reelected. she reflected on her first term, among her a call accomplishments were rooting out human-rights violations from 1976 through 1983 she received most of her support from the working class is. at least 13 people have been killed after a small plane crashed into a schoo

things that were human oriented such as recreational facilities for the men and opportunities for the mckinley into visit their lives and families. >> admiral richardson fired by president roosevelt because he was try dent about his views about where the fleet should be based. >> oliver: the man chosen to replace richardson was from henderson, kentucky. tom kimmel is his grandson and retired fbi agent. >> my grandmother was shocked, stunned as he describes it when was suddenly picked to be the replacement for general richardson. >> oliver: tell me about your first memories of your grandmother. >> he would pack up his four kids and go listen to admiral kimmel. you couldn't talk to this man for two minutes without the subject of pearl harbor being brought up. he was promoted over several others which upset a lot of people in the navy. >> oliver: over the years, pearl harbor conspiracy theorists argued over by president roosevelt moved the fleet to hawaii. >> roosevelt loved the navy. 9 fleet was his pride and joy and he didn't want that fleet destroyed. there is no way. >> president roosevelt in

things that were human oriented such as recreational facilities for the men and opportunities for the mckinleyo visit their lives and families. >> admiral richardson fired by president roosevelt because he was try dent about his views about where the fleet should be based. >> oliver: the man chosen to replace richardson was from henderson, kentucky. tom kimmel is his grandson and retired fbi agent. >> my grandmother was shocked, stunned as he describes it when was suddenly picked to be the replacement for general richardson. >> oliver: tell me about your first memories of your grandmother. >> he would pack up his four kids and go listen to admiral kimmel. you couldn't talk to this man for two minutes without the subject of pearl harbor being brought up. he was promoted over several others which upset a lot of people in the navy. >> oliver: over the years, pearl harbor conspiracy theorists argued over by president roosevelt moved the fleet to hawaii. >> roosevelt loved the navy. 9 fleet was his pride and joy and he didn't want that fleet destroyed. there is no way. >> president roosevelt in 194

i should point out that while mckinley sadly was assassinated here when he mustered out of the ohio volunteers in 1867, he went to the close as law school he could find, northern ohio, which was in albany new york. so he is actually in the albany law school where i teach. a complicated figure. they know very little about him other than that he has gathered his first name of any american president and it goes down from there. he hasn't been the remembered and no one quite knows why he was there. so i'd like to give you some perspective on that. i should say that there are -- what you will hear was not tied to making happy if he were alive today. this would not be a particularly flattering talk. i want to start out on the upside by putting up there are a number of pieces of millet, life that were really quite wonderful, and this institution is one of them. as many of you know he was one of the founders of the buffalo historical society and also the first chancellor of the university of buffalo. and, indeed, in many ways fillmore's greatest accomplishments are right here in buffalo. the greatest

marine sergeant david mckinley senior. he came home earlier than expected. and you can see there. a lot of happy smiles and hugs and kisses and a great story. we love it. >> and it come to politics. can you look to the past. we'll talk to historian douglas brinkley. we are waiting in the u.s.. they are bringing in the new year elsewhere in the world and we'll look at the explosive celebrations that have taken place. don't miss it . i habe a cohd. yeah, i toog nyguil bud i'm stild stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't un-stuff your nose. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your stuffy nose. [ deep breath ] thank you! that's the cold truth! you know, typical alarm clock. i am so glad to get rid of it. just to be able to wake up in the morning on your own. that's a big accomplishment to me. i don't know how much money i need. but i know that whatever i have that's what i'm going to live within. ♪ ♪ this part of the world happy new year from down under. the celebrations have begun. and here are th

mckinley, for five minutes. 7. mr. mckinley: thank you, madam chairman. today i want to announce that company c 150th aviation united of the west virginia national guard are on their way home to their families and should arrive this afternoon after serving our nation for the past 12 months in kosovo. truly there could not be a better christmas present. company c is based in the first district of west virginia in my hometown of wheeling and was deployed one year ago to kosovo on a peacekeeping mission. while overseas, the unit was responsible for all aerial operations within their area of responsibility. company c soldiers, all 2,899 flight hours, 951 missions. they ran multiple mechanical missions and refueling missions and dispensed 246,260 gallons of fuel. the west virginia national guard plays a key role in the defense of our country and interest around the world. america could not be prouder to have these men and women as our representatives. today i'm thrilled to say, welcome home, company c. thank you, madam speaker. i yield back my time. the speake

mckinley. he also has transportation issues. you're recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. before we had this hearing, i went back and looked at some of the things that were said, what were in the press back if the '70s before the alaska pipeline. there, the criticism was the effects on the tundra, possible pollution, harm to animals, geographic features and the lack of engineering. then they went ahead and they built it. 800 miles long, 48 inches in diameter, cross stream mountain chains, 30 rivers. it seemed to have worked. so today i'm just curious in the last 30-some years since that pipeline was put in, in the '70s, how much we've improved. and i've heard all the scare tactics from the friends on the other side, that this is a very corrosive, difficult product to handle. but i think engineers over the years have developed ways of handling that. we can have ceramic-lined pipes. we can do a lot of things. if we can pipe hydrocoloric acid, we sure as a dickens can pipe crude oil. so i'm just curious from the panel from a construction background some of the impro

mckinley, for 1 1/2 minutes. the chair: the gentleman from west virginia is recognized for 1 1/2 minutes. mr. mckinley: thank you, mr. chairman. i rise today in support of h.r. 1633, the farm dust bill. earlier this year the house passed h.r. 2273, the bipartisan coal ash legislation. unfortunately opponents of the farm dust bill believe that nuisance dust in this bill might include fly ash. therefore an amendment was offered and adopted to clarify that the definition of nuisance dust in the farm dust bill does not include coal ash or other compusston residuals. the amendment makes it perfectly clear that nuisance dust is not comprised of any residuals from coal combustion. unfortunately, opponents of the farm dust bill are still apparently unaware of the changes that have been made to the bill to address their concerns. don't oppose the farm dust bill because you don't like fly ash. let's relieve one more threat to our agricultural community with passage of this bill. we should be striving to create more jobs no

. >> bergman: robert mckinley is a credit card analyst who followed the rise of providian. >> i mean, here they were giving away products with no fee and charging interest rates and making a ton of money. and so, "hey, let's do it, too." and so, you know, it's... it quickly spread throughout the... the entire industry. >> bergman: one of the many providian practices that spread was making people believe their credit cards were free by eliminating the then-standard annual fee. >> we made it look like it's a giveaway, and took it back in the form of... i used to use the word "penalty pricing" or "stealth pricing." >> bergman: so, the competition... increase in competition led to the use of penalty fees... bigger penalty fees? >> bigger penalty fees. >> bergman: and you were operating with your penalty fees like everyone else. >> well, we all had to make up somewhere, because everybody had to waive the annual fee to stay competitive. where do you make your money? so everybody increased the late fees. everybody started increasing the over-limit fees. when people make the buying decision,

i should point out that while mckinley sadly was assassinated here when he mustered out of the ohio volunteers in 1867, he went to the close as law school he could find, northern ohio, which was in albany new york. so he is actually in the albany law school where i teach. a complicated figure. they know very little about him other than that he has gathered his first name of any american president and it goes down from there. he hasn't been the remembered and no one quite knows why he was there. so i'd like to give you some perspective on that. i should say that there are -- what you will hear was not tied to making happy if he were alive today. this would not be a particularly flattering talk. i want to start out on the upside by putting up there are a number of pieces of millet, life that were really quite wonderful, and this institution is one of them. as many of you know he was one of the founders of the buffalo historical society and also the first chancellor of the university of buffalo. and, indeed, in many ways fillmore's greatest accomplishments are right here in buffalo. the greatest

. >> doug, the list of romney flip lops or alleged lip slops is just as infay mckinley us as the onehe screen on gingrich. how would a race between gingrich and obama be different than a romney/obama matchup? >> i think the difference would be gingrich to we win such a matchup would have to identify a vision for the future. he can't and won't run on his record. he has to offer an alternative that ail bam ma has taken the -- newt gingrich is brimming with ideas. so far, romney has yet to articulate a vision. the problem with newt is that he has multiple visions and has trouble honing them down to one coherent hole. >> recently on our air newt gingrich said "i have a lifetime record of being a consistent conservative." i looked this up a couple of hours ago. august 30, 2007 he told a centrist republican group the following "everywhere i have been i have argued in favor of electing mod reads and then chas tied the -- a fake dirt h whose history belies his claims of conservative ace many. is that a good strategy strategy. will it stick or could it backfire. >> i think it is the right str

i should point out that while mckinley sadly was assassinated here when he mustered out of the ohio volunteers in 1867, he went to the close as law school he could find, northern ohio, which was in albany new york. so he is actually in the albany law school where i teach. a complicated figure. they know very little about him other than that he has gathered his first name of any american president and it goes down from there. he hasn't been the remembered and no one quite knows why he was there. so i'd like to give you some perspective on that. i should say that there are -- what you will hear was not tied to making happy if he were alive today. this would not be a particularly flattering talk. i want to start out on the upside by putting up there are a number of pieces of millet, life that were really quite wonderful, and this institution is one of them. as many of you know he was one of the founders of the buffalo historical society and also the first chancellor of the university of buffalo. and, indeed, in many ways fillmore's greatest accomplishments are right here in buffalo. the greatest

. >> looking at first sergeant david mckinley who was deported to afghanistan, and he told the kids heg them with a christmas president they have to pick up at the airport but their dad was the present. >> an opportunity could come back and surprise them like this was just my family here but with everyone else in the crowd clapping and watching, and it is a good moment. >> what were you hoping was in the box? >> well, david is part of the troop draw down in afghanistan and he was deployed there, the script say, deported, but he was deployed and came home earlier than expected. can you not ever get tired of seeing this. >> and a last tears when you see the soldier reunion stories and a lost tears in iowa. we have not seen the clients crying but a month ago three were crying during the debate. >> and gingrich was at a mom's event early in the morning asked about hi mom with a reflection period about it and that is when this happened. >> well, i get teary eyed. my mother, excuse me, sang in the choir and loved to sing in the choir. when i was very young, she made me sing in the choir, i d

. >>> earlier this month, paul mckinley was outside with his dog, scam, when he got loose and was struckfind a heartbeat, so he assumed the worst. he wrapped him in a blanket and placed him under the wheelbarrow. the next morning, to his surprise, camp was alive and sitting up. scam looks so adorable, sleeping peacefully. good morning, everyone. >> good morning. >> and, paul, i want to ask how scam is doing, but he looks likes he's doing great. >> he is doing great. >> oh, you were outside with scam when he got out of the yard. he was struck by a car. tell me what happens when you reached him. what did you notice? and i know you were checking for vitals. >> yeah. i checked for vieltss. it seemed like to me he was dead. i had picked him up off the road and i wasn't getting much response. at that point, i wrapped him up in a blanket and put him under the wheelbarrow. >> it was cool that night and the vet told you that keeping him outside overnight, you were just putting him there so that you can bury him the next morning actually saved his life. tell me about that. >> what the vet said is

i think perhaps mckinley becomes a very pro-business president in 1896. and a republican.nd blaine would have brought about that earlier in 1884. >> some scholars have said that blaine, because of his personal magnetism, would had been a great leader for the country and would have rejected the kind of image of confidence and of power that really had been lacking in recent presidents in that period. in the modern men, the most important figure between lincoln and teddy roosevelt. >> chicago is up next. dave, you are up next. >> there was a comment about referring to him as 20 years on the make. [laughter] >> well, there is that. >> the railroad connection had some validity in the day. the small town in west virginia, blaine, west virginia, a railroad town. he endures in the railroad that way. did he not lose new york because he did not repudiate the statement of the reverend that people would not support the democrats? thank you for taking my call. >> thank you for watching me. 20 years on the make? that is a great title. >> a great cartoonist, harper's weekly was his forum

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and the republican party of mark hanna and the old mckinley machine didn't trust t.r. he was considered an iconoclast and individualist and the cowboy notion. ross perot, his father was a cotton broker. but also was a -- broke horses, went to cattle auctions, considered himself a bit of a texas cowboy. and everything about theodore roosevelt is impressed ross perot. and i think gave him courage, if t.r. can do a bull moose party, why can't i run in 1992? and churchill it gout woes saying, anybody who loves -- it goes without saying, anybody who loves grit, winston churchill is your figure and the two people he admires most. in his office a portrait of george washington and talks about the founding fathers. but which founding father ross perot is like, i thought about in today. patrick henry. we always talk about the other founding fathers, the ones who become president. but this is about the contenders. and how do you have an american revolution woult that figure like patrick henry, an irritant? those are the type of people that ross perot admires. >> next is a call fr

mckinley was assassinated and the republican party machine did not trust him. he was considered an iconoclast, an individualist and that whole cowboy notion. ross perot grew up in texarkana and his father was a cotton broker but also broke horses and went to cattle auctions and considered himself a bit of a texas cowboy. everything about the door roosevelt impressed ross perot and i think gave him courage. if roosevelt could do a bull moose party, why couldn't i in 1992? churchill, anyone who loves freedom, democracy and grit, winston churchill is your figure. those of the people he admires most. he also likes george washington and has a portrait of him. but there is also patrick henry. we talk about the founding fathers to actually become president, but this is about the contenders and how you have a revolution without patrick henry? those are the types of people prospero admirers. >> -- that types of people ross perot and admirers. >> i would like to challenge dr. brinkley a little bit. i think the comparison with t.r. is heavily overdrawn. you mentioned just