hosting the discussion this morning introducing our special guest is mclaurin, a policy analyst in our thomas rowe institute for economic policy studies. he focuses on energy, environmental and regulatory issues and also examines energy prices and other economic effects of the environment policy and regulations particularly looking at climate change or cap-and-trade legislation and he articulates the benefits of the market environmentalism. he has appeared on many radio programs locally as well as serving as an associate for the charitable foundation prior to joining this year heritage. please strine me in welcoming my colleague, nick? [applause] 64, john and all of you for coming here today. but surely promises to be an educational and exciting event with our speaker. learned about these issues and studying them as the global recession hit seen a shift in the movement away from the learning about the catastrophic consequences of the climate change and shifting towards agreement job's movement and towards a clean energy economy, and these policies have such far reaching implications of