logistically there's not enough equipment there's not enough coordination there's not enough trust so what mcluhan is saying that that europe needs to go off on its own is something we talk about all the time in brussels all the time it nato and it's not realistic and that's what secretary general stolzenberg and even chancellor merkel pointed out everybody believes that europe should do more to defend itself and that's why the discussion about germany equipping its own troops better recurs constantly but there isn't any way that nato will would survive if the us truly left and it's not realistic for france to be suggesting such a thing while there is so little european court a nation on defense and security issues. 3 shells reporting now the u.s. secretary of state's mike palm pilot has been in germany today meeting troops at a training camp in bavaria 4000 u.s. soldiers and nato partners that's just a fraction of the 35000 u.s. troops in the country based upon pio who was stationed in west germany during the cold war also visit a believes that has once been dividing the east west border and snea