the ajc says perez told them when travis mcmichael returned he was with his father gregory mcmichael okay? now, is this tape, the 11th, the one that the mcmichaels referred to the day they killed arbery? remember, what we thought was weird for them to say on the 23rd, because how did they know where arbery had been, that he had been in that house under construction? a police officer wrote that day, gregory mcmichael stated there had been several break-ins in the neighborhood. again, we don't see police rrpdz records of break-ins but this is what is in his mind. further, the victim was caught on surveillance video. they couldn't have known about the surveillance video on the 23rd, it had just happened, as far as we know. and mr. english says he didn't know anything about it. are they talking about the 11th? after the shooting, gregory mcmichael told police they had seen the man that travis shot the other night. the 11th. and suspected he was armed. like they said on the 11th? so they grabbeddown arbery. to be clear, we don't know who is on that february 11th video, if that's arbery. b

wasn't called to the scene by the mcmichaels and he wasn't videoing in any way to help the mcmichaelsm your perspective? >> he wasn't there for the mcmichaels at all. i can say that and he doesn't have any relationship with the mcmichaels. >> and the one sticking point that aye heard you try to explain before but hasn't met satisfaction with me yet is when you see something that you know is wrong, even though you're videotaping it in the molt, eme efsh though things happened before that he didn't videotape, you call the police. i don't care about his education. everybody knows that. you can be in high school. i've met many people, so have you, in high school who will eat our lunch despaite owl our education intellectually. why didn't he call 911? >> well, first of all, he can't use the phone for a phone ca call -- >> i know, you can hang up and call 911. stop videotaping and call 911. >> chris, chris -- >> yes. >> with all due respect. >> please. >> feel free to give the answer for me, okay? if you're asking me my answer -- >> yes. >> -- i can tell you that in the real world things ar

do you know who the mcmichaels -- is anyone representing the mcmichaels? has heard anything from them, their side, nothing. nothing from anyone beyond who originally released the video that shows arbery being gunned down. >> the last official statement from the mcmichaels was that they had not retained counsel. there are some indications that they may be represented, and we expect to have their representation identified by tomorrow. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> we'll right. chocolate would be good... snacking should be sweet and simple. beright. right. the delicious taste of glucerna b. . . b. a. c. k . . while helping you manage your blood sugar. with nutrients to help support immune health. with nutrients to help roundup for lawns is here to put unwelcome lawn weeds to rest. so, draw the line. roundup for lawns is formulated to kill lawn weeds to the root without harming your grass. roundup brand. trusted for over 40 years.

we know travis mcmichael and william bryant were there.so hearing about a third or a fourth person that may have been there or involved and showed up at the scene. and this note indicates that maybe there is someone there with knowledge of what was going to happen, the possibility to prevent it and can tell us more about the motivation behind the ambush. >> let me look at my notes here. travis mcmichael also mentioned on the february 11th call that there was a group of four people gathered around the house. i imagine you want to know two they were. >> absolutely. anybody who seems to be a part of the group that comes together to police or control. if it is a citizens watch group there is nothing illegal but we need to know if you are a part of that. these men took it too far. there is a lot more information to know. the february 11th incident, it indicates that there is some coordination going on between members of the community that we want to hear more about. >> before i let you go i reached out to the original attorney that was allegedl

arbery because they thought he was a burglary suspect the senior mcmichael told officers son travis fired because arbery violently attacked the two started fighting over the shotgun. the attorneys say they hope to have their clients released on bond in the coming weeks. blayne alexander, nbc news, atlanta. >>> when we come back nascar will be the first major sport to restart this weekend how it's adapting and how their biggest star is ready to return after a near deadly crash. >>> plus class act the inspiring superstars, teachers making graduation special for students everywhere >>> nascar is returning to the racetrack and the airways. it's the first major sport to come back, a victory for fans but also superstar driver ryan newman sam brock has his incredible story and how he's been coping since that horrific crash just months ago >> reporter: the sound of tires will rip through the stadium for the first time since march. >> i think it's been a challenge to create that normalcy in our life as the world has changed the last two months. a lot of people have made big steps and big eff

one was investigated by mcmichael. but it's unknown if the two actually knew one another. >> very often when black people are killed in this way the very first thing that law enforcement does is say, oh, they're criminals. oh, have you seen their background? >> if he was a white kid he would have never got racial profiled. >> reporter: ahmaud's parents say they will never watch the video. they already know what it shows. some have described this as a modern-day lynching, as modern-day jim crow. how do you see it? >> i agree it. the way i've always saw it is he was hunted down like he was an animal and they took his life. >> reporter: the autopsy revealed arbery was hit by three shotgun blasts. one grazed his right wrist. the other two hit him in the chest. just one day after the video surfaced the georgia bureau of investigation took over the case. a little more than 24 hours after that this happened. gregory and travis mcmichael were arrested in charged. 74 days after ahmaud arbery's death. >> you are being charged wi

. >> mcmichael was no longer a cop.etired. and there is some speculation about how things went for him during the end of his tour. but, still, based on what we see in these videos, lee merit, do you believe that the mcmichaels thought they knew who ahmaud was from the videos? and that, that is why they flew out of their house after him, on february 23rd, when he was just jogging by. >> i think they knew that he was on the property that day. and that they knew that a black male was on the property before, and they probably suspected that it was him. and that, because of what law enforcement told them, they have the authority to try to arrest him. i think that -- that -- that they had that belief, although that is contrary to the law. >> do we know anything about the police telling greg mcmichael and/or his son that they were, in any way, empowered to do anything, in terms of local policing? >> no, only by inference. so the text message to the homeowner says, contact gregory mcmichael. here's his address and a cell phone,

did you share this video with the mcmichaels? >> no.they know of any past incidents at your construction site? >> i'm not -- i'm not sure about that. >> nothing you told them about? >> no. >> were you aware of any string of burglaries that they say were going on in that neighborhood? because we can't find police records of any string of burglaries in the neighborhood. >> i was. >> and what did you know about what was going on in the neighborhood? >> i only knew secondhand information, that maybe somewhere in the neighborhood of january, that a vehicle had been entered and some guns taken out of it. >> are you aware that it was the mcmichaels who filed that report? >> no. >> that's what police records show, according to our reporting on this, that they had reported it. do you have any relationship with the mcmichaels, do you have any feel for these gentlemen? >> no. >> have you reported in the past things that happened at your construction site? >> i have. >> what kind of things have happened and what do you think did it? >> the only thi

mcmichael, travis mcmichael is the one who fired the gun, if you aid or abet, solicit or encourage someonecrime that in fact, makes you party to the crime and let me give you an example. let's say somebody holds up the liquor store and they kill the clerk of the store, well, the guy who is driving the car can also be culpable in the murder of the -- of the store clerk. so while it may be that mr. greg mcmichael didn't pull the trigger, the question is whether or not there's evidence that he was a party to that by aiding and abetting and encouraging soliciting, procuring somebody else to do it and when in fact, he ran into the house -- arthel: which would be his son. >> correct. arthel: which would be his son. >> maybe a closer pattern of -- of encouragement or solicitation to participate in the chase of mr. arbery. arthel: and then so travis mcmichael's attorneys commenting that travis had been vilified before his voice could even be heard adding that the truth in the case will exonerate travis. again, i'm not sure what i am missing there, you've already touched on that and i want to go on

attorney lee merritt represents arbery's family. >> today, both of the mcmichaels, gregory mcmichaelsravis mcmichaels should be behind bars. >> reporter: mcmike cell a former law enforcement officer who used to work for the local d.a. due to conflict of interest, the case is now on its third prosecutor who says he will ask a grand jury to bring charges. >> i'm hoping that all hands involved, they're indicted and they go to jail. >> reporter: cbs news reached out to the mcmichaels but they did not want to talk. the wheels of justice are moving slowly because of the coronavirus, but the prosecutor says he plans to present the case to a grand jury for possible charges once a grand jury can convene. norah. >> o'donnell: omar, thank you. up next, our mother's day story. three children tell us why their dr. mom is their super hero. i came across sofi and it was the best decision of my life. i feel cared about as a member. we're getting a super competitive interest rate on our money. we're able to invest through the same exact platform. i really liked that they didn't have any hidden or extr

the mcmichaels have a jury trial that they could have an all white school which could also. result in been actually not. white but we should celebrate since that was long overdue the travesty of justice and it's almost here but this is one part of the battle the outflung will be whether or not. a jury of their peers actually believe that they will just lie in murdering an unarmed young back to. you i want to add just real quick to i want to ask you is the is the victory here and the chemo is the victory here that at some point or the idea of where we're going toward an event some point it doesn't take you know everyone from the bron james and even taylor swift to speak out about this event but it shouldn't have to take a video in the 1st place i mean is that where it is not where the victory is not where the end game or the end goal should be for everyone involved and everyone speaking out about this is that it should not to take a video it shouldn't have to take prominent celebrities it should just people shouldn't be shot just for jogging while black. you know her i'm goin

, gregorythe two men mcmichael and his son -- greg mcmichael, former police officer investigator, they walked free for months before the video got out. the question of the corruption within the glynn county, the distririct attorney -- all of that. now the question of where the justice department is. >> absolutely. we want the justice department to not only o open a hate crime investigation, but we want them to look at the d due process of law violations under the 14th amendment involvingg everybody who wass involved in this invevestigatioion from the polie officersrs who werere first on e scene to the first v.a. jackie johnson, who it is alleged holds -- told the police not to file charges in the case, to the second district attorney von like jackieo said, johnson, he hahad a conflilict f interest but yetet wrote a memorandum saying he saw no thisbable cause to arrest inderous father and son duo, essence, put his thumb on the scale of justice in favor r of e mcmichaels. anand the third prosecutor who said when he looked at this video and look at all of this evidence, the statement sayi

greg mcmichael did not commit murder. >> we know that gregory mcmichael and his son travis mcmichaelhmaud running on february 23rd. decided he was a criminal and murdered him in the streets. >> reporter: this case has gotten a lot of attention and calls for justice. after perceived conflicts of interest and inaction, it took a long time for any arrests to be made. 74 days after the shooting but just 36 hours after the georgia bureau of investigations took over. eva? >> all right, zachary kiesch for us, thank you. joining us now is civil rights attorney benjamin crump who was hired by ahmaud arbery's family. welcome to you. let's get right to this. this new evidence this morning with this text message, how does this affect the case? >> it's an explosive piece of evidence. it has been long speculated that the police should have arrested this murderous duo that day and now there are questions as to why they did not do it on day one and it suggests that this text may have been the reason they didn't arrest him because they knew they could be implicated as aiding and abetting in the crime

the neighbor who actually took the video of his death maintains he doesn't know the mcmichaels.nd, of course, the arbery family which has been pushing for answers long before a video was released is still saying, we need to know why this happened. ahmaud's mother wanda cooper jones is with us tonight along with one of the family's attorneys, lee merritt. ma'am, i am sorry to meet you under these circumstances, but thank you for taking the opportunity to talk to us about your son and what you think of the developments. >> thank you. >> counselor, as always, appreciate your attendance. i'm going to talk to you, but feel free to weigh in as you feel warranted. ma'am, what do you make of all of these videos that are coming out about who went in and out of this house and what they might mean? what do they mean to you? >> actually, i didn't take a look at the videos. i'm actually kind of afraid to take a look at the videos. from what i can see from the videos, it doesn't look like my son at all, especially on the 11th. >> do you care, does it matter whether he was in that house or who

this is the first time that we're hearing from an attorney for travis mcmichael and he says that more facts about this case will come out during the trial for the first time we are hearing from the attorneys of travis mcmichael, one of the men charged with ahmaud arbery's murder >> no matter how you look at this case, a young man has died and that is always a tragedy that is at the forefront of our minds as we proceed down this road, but that does not mean that a crime has been committed. >> reporter: the attorneys declined to discuss specifics of the case but said more facts will come out. >> travis has a presumption of innocence. that presumption of innocence follows him from now throughout the course of this trial until and unless a jury decides that he is not innocent >> we wish that travis and gregory mcmichael would have reported that same presumption of innocence for ahmaud arbery who was murdered without a trial. >> reporter: attorneys for travis's father gregly will hold their own news conference. they armed themselves and started following arbery because they thought he was

remember, he was named in two police reports, one of them which mcmichael himself, gregory mcmichaeld that roddie attempted to try to use his vehicle to block arbery that day. there was another report from authorities that suggested as well that he was a participant. it is interesting, there was a raid conducted a search warrant carried out on the mcmichaels' home. that was on tuesday this week. you have to wonder could anything found in their home have made them move on this arrest of bryan. >>> i want to bring in lauren michaels. what is your reaction when you heard of this dramatic development? >> it is extraordinarily striking wolf because felony murder is what he is being charged with. that is important here because most people think to themselves if you are not the one who actually fired the gun there would not be criminal liability. felony murder is a doctrine that essentially says if you participated in the crime, somebody who advised or encouraged or in some way helped another person commit a crime, even if nobody intended to actually kill somebody, the fact that you were en

gregory mcmichael and his son travis were both charged with murder and aggravated assault and booked in glenn county, georgia, where the killing took place more than two months ago. the video was filmed by a third white man, william bryan, who is travis' neighbor. bryan has reportedly also been charged but has not been arrested. today would have been ahmaud arbery's 26th birthday. after headlines, we'll speak withth family attorney benjamin crump. the justice d department has dropped charges against president trump's disgraced former national security adviser michael flynn, even though flynn twice pled guilty to lying to the fbi about his communications with the russian ambassador. attorney general bill barr called the move an easy decision. he spoke with cbs reporter catherine herridge. >> when history looks back on this decision, how do you think it will be written? >> history is written by the winners,s, so it depends on n ws writing the history. amy: california congressmember adam schiff, the democratic chair of the house intelligence committee, tweeted -- "flynn pled guilty to l

it was travis mcmichael's call that night that summons police to the scene mcmichael tells authorities he spotted the individual going into the home mcmichael is gasping for breath so much so that worries the 911 operator he okay. >>yeah, you know and i to stormy when i turned around and saw when and back to the recent sewage pocket in ran into the house over he's armed or not. but he looked like he was acting like he was police arrive on scene a short time later but find no one. >>nothing more is said about the incident in the homeowner says he has no idea who was in the house that night. but the encounter is not forgotten. 2 weeks later on arbery lay down on the ground killed by 3 shotgun blast from travis mcmichael's gun. gregory mcmichael tells authorities he thought arbery was that suspect from 12 days before >>we'll switch things up now and talk about our weather forecasts as we take a live look outside at a very gloomy golden gate bridge. though very light traffic at this hour, let's find out what the weekend has in store because for anyone keeping tabs at home. it's thursday. >

then you see the shotgun come out around around travis mcmichael.e got to tell you, michael, you can't outrun a shotgun. i see ahmaud trying to do what i would have done which is disarm him. get away. get the shotgun away from him. horribly troubling. but my real concern when i see this part of it is it was now known to be absolutely planned event, that they were going to accost, they were going to get ahmaud arbery no matter what. >> i want to show it in slow motion. do the slo-mo. and i want to ask mark o'mara, in what circumstances would deadly force be permitted. >> well, here's what the defense is going to say. here's -- first of all, the only time deadly force is allowed is in response to the presumption that deadly force is about to be used against you. you're allowed to respond to deadly force with deadly force. you're not to be the one to start it. so here's what the defense has to focus on. at some point, travis with his shotgun open and carrying in georgia is okay. he can do that. we don't hear what was said between travis and ahmaud, but

that's the purpose of a trial. >> reporter: travis and his father gregory mcmichael are both in jail charged with arbery's murder. father and son have separate legal teams. attorneys for the senior mcmichael in a statement say the full story will tell the truth about this case. video of the february shooting has sparked nationwide outrage. the arbery family says the 25-year-old was just out for a jog unarmed. according to the police report, gregory mcmichael told police he and son travis grabbed their guns and followed arbery because they thought he was a burglary suspect. mcmichael told police travis fired when arbery violently attacked and the two started fighting over the shotgun. >> travis has a presumption of innocence. that presumption of innocence follows him from now throughout the course of this trial until and unless a jury decides that he is not innocent. >> we wish that travis and gregory mcmichael gave that same presumption of innocence to ahmaud arbery, who was murdered without a trial, without any real evidence that he had committed a crime at all. >> reporter: now att

two prosecutors here removing themselves from the investigation. >> are you gregory mcmichael? >> yes. >> you are charged with the crime of felony murder. >> reporter: police say the mcmichaels are the men with guns in the shocking cell phone recording. they told police that arbery looked like this man seen in these surveillance images from some time before the shooting, given to abc news by a local lawyer. he says the person here is neighbho osatilla shores. but according to a local newspaper, the only report of any burglary since january was a gun stolen from a pickup truck outside the home of one of the mcmichaels. >> i'm out here at satilla shores. there's a black male running down the street. >> reporter: the video shows re arbery in tet, but people wh mcmichaels say it was arbery who started fighting. the outrage over it all is pouring on to the streets. arbery would have turned 26 years old today. state authorities say there could be more arrests and that they're talking with everyone, including the person who recorded the video. his lawyer says his client is cooperating

travis mcmichael and gregory mcmichael when after ahmaud arbery . they were following him. >> if they make another arrest in the case they will do that. >> reporter: his son was not a criminal. >> he was a respectful young man. >> reporter: outside of the glynn county courthouse they gathered on his 26 birthday. it was the 26 birthday of ahmaud arbery. >>> this is trending all over social media today. people across the country are running and jogging 2.23 in honor of the day that ahmaud arbery died. he would have been 26-year- old. take a look at some of the posts in the bay area. many using the hashtag i run with ahmaud. >>> if they remove some guns off of the streets in a matter of days. these photos were released. this includes a nine millimeter handgun with a high-capacity magazine, and assault style rifle, crystal meth as well as heroin. that is just to name a few. the rest were made over a six- day period. they took known gang members into custody as was a suspected drug dealer who was on parole for previous violent crimes. the police chief sa

gregory mcmichael said his son fired because arbery violently attacked travis. arbery's family says he was unarmed out for a jog. a video taken more than a week before the shooting is gaining attention. it shows an unknown person enter a home construction site the owner released the video and a message from the neighbor saying the unknown person ran inside after travis confronted him. travis mcmichael's attorney did not respond to our questions about the video and arbery family attorney says he does not believe it shows ahmaud arbery. an attorney for english says nothing was taken from the property and he's unsure who is in the video blayne alexander, nbc news, atlanta. >>> we're tracking a system off the southeast coast threatening to grow into the first named storm of the season. a cluster of thunderstorms may become a tropical or subtropical storm by the weekend it's expected to bring heavy rain to south florida and high surf and rip cto celebrate. >> in our latest installment of nightly news kids' edition, many kids are missing birthday parties but we'll tel

he's the dad of the other man charged in the mosques killing the senior mcmichael actually gave it to local television in georgia for some reason i guess he thought somehow this would clear his name i guess amongst his neighbors or something but now given that story from mr macmichael why does it seem like there are 2 lenses on how to view this footage i mean it's kind of like a rorschach test on society right some view this as our very running away from the scene of a crime you know is this criminal others view this as 2 white men hunting down a black man so is this a rorschach test for our society today it absolutely is the thing that america has also viewed cases of race relations through 2 very different lenses the black community the civil rights community and i would probably say concerned whites as well see this for what it is a case of someone be basically confronted because of the color of their skin automatically considered guilty because of the color of their skin and then they're on the other side there are people who are and have been reaching for justifications of this f

bery had initiated the fight with travis mcmichael and was thus allowed to use deadly force to protect himself boom case closed except. except for that darn video of the shooting that found its way out of the darkness of law enforcement coverup and in the light of public scrutiny and it's in that light that we begin our show today so let's start watching the honks. what's going on in a city street you want to. see this as this you always state i'll see a. mass graves see displaced systemic deceptions late show which. so brings up the bill as. well who have been watching the fire over there and i'm in the chicago and joining us today to discuss the murder of mr r. berea more of the civil rights turning out of minneapolis minnesota the chemo levy armstrong and author and salon dot com editor at large the walk ins thank you both for joining us today. thank you to. the i want to start with the release of the video showing the the murder of constitutional attorney daniel horowitz the news you know he basically the news of the charges being brought against mcmichaels 2 tweeted out something

>>here is video of the incident that led to his death 2 men, gregory mcmichael and his son travis are accused of chasing down and shooting arbery who was unarmed at the time in coastal georgia this was last february. atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms is calling the shooting now a modern day lynching. >>i think that's absolutely the reason that they were charged as saying have we not seen that video. i don't believe that they will be charged and it it's heartbreaking that is 2020 and this was a luncheon of an african american man and i think you know my heart goes out to his family. but i think again it's a part of this bigger issue that we're having in this country. >>well gregory and travis mcmichael were both arrested last thursday, they face charges of murder and aggravated assault. and there is new video to related to the fatal shooting of arbery it appears to show him at a construction site the day he died now scott johnson explains how the video is playing a part in the investigation. >>this is the video that some believe shows ahmaudarbery walking into a home under constructio

is a brian williams who is not mentioned along with mcmichael, gregory mcmichael and travis mcmichaelw he is involved because the district attorney said he was there as well. >> okay. okay. so gregory mcmichael said since he is under investigation he won't be commenting. quickly, i have about 15 seconds, maybe not even that much. where does this case go from here? >> the district attorney tom durden must indict these men. we have met with him. he is reviewing the case and we expect action this week. please go to ahmaud.com for steps on how to get justice for this family. >> wanda, thank you so much. lee, thank you so much. >> thanks for having us. >> please let us know how this -- where this goes next. keep us updated. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and thank you for watching, everyone. the cnn special report "the pandemic and the president" right after this. rint, we underd saving money for your family is now more important than ever. that's why we're offering our best unlimited deal. switch and get four lines of unlimited for just $100 a month. that's right - four

mcmichael and his son travis into custody late thursday charging both with murder. gregory is a former police officer and a former investigator for a county prosecutor. he and his son are seen here in a photo shared by the naacp. calls for their arrests have grown louder after video of the shooting surfaced this week prompting governor brian kemp to weigh in. >> i got to watch the video depicting mr. arbery's last moments alive. i can tell you it's absolutely horrific, and georgians deserve answers. >> reporter: the video shows mcmichael waiting for arbery with guns. the 25-year-old was unarmed as he approached a white truck. there's a struggle between arbery and travis mcmichael, gunshots go off, and arbery collapses. the mcmichaels told police they believed he was the same person seen on security cameras breaking into homes and had chased him claiming they were trying to make a citizen's arrest. >> there's a black male running down the street. >> reporter: because of their apparent connections to the father and son, two prosecutors recused themselves from the case

this is from travis mcmichael. >> i guess he didn't realize we're here. damn lights on looking through the house. >> the neighbors, there's about four of us. but we have had a lot of break-ins lately. i i have never seen this guy before. >> so i just have a couple seconds here. the only people who seemed to have had a problem with things being taken or at least claiming that there was an issue with the neighborhood is the mcmichaels because your client is not claiming any of that and doesn't know the identity of the person in this coyne call or the video during the 911 call. >> that's absolutely correct. my client never had anything stolen. one other neighbor told my client, this is the neighbor that contacted him after he heard about the first couple injuries. he said he had some tools stolen. so he offered to keep an eye out if anything happens. that's the person other than the police who mr. english share d some of the videos with. but i don't know if he ever reported that any tools were taken. >> elizabeth, i praesht you coming on. i thank you for you

gregory mcmichael had a career in county law enforcement. two prosecutors recused themselves from the case because of their apparent connections to the father and son. glynn county officials say on the day of the shooting the district attorney's office told police no arrests were necessary. a second d.a. then reviewed the evidence and the video of the killing. >> within 24 hours of this homicide, he thought her was no probable cause for arrest. >> reporter: and now more celebrities are demanding justice. in a letter to "the atlanta-journal constitution," entertainers including music mogul jay-z and singer alicia keys want a special prosecutor appointed. and this morning atlanta's mayor is speaking out, saying without video of the shooting being made public she believes no arrest would have been made. >> it's 2020 and this was a lynching of an african-american man. >> reporter: the owner of that house under construction told abc news overnight he has no relationship with the suspects and condemned what he called a vigilante response. the mcmi

everything is under construction and it appears the mcmichaels and just the mcmichaels look at what'sappening there as criminal. the owner himself did not. >> here at cnn, from very early ton reports that were going around that there had been robberies in the area, you know how we knew that wasn't true, and that within the we could verify was by the mcmichaels about this gun? martin skpachlk his team. thank you for the reporting and thank you for help us continued proper context here. have a great weekend, martin. appreciate it. >>> we're going to speak to ahmaud arbery's mother and her attorney in our next hour. why? what do they make of what is being vilified and who is being vilified here? we'll hear their perspective. >>> first to wisconsin and the front lines of what not to be doing during a pandemic. look, we all want to reopen, but pub crawling in the middle of a pandemic? really? next. i'm searching for info on options trading, and look, it feels like i'm just wasting time. that's why td ameritrade designed a first-of-its-kind, personalized education center. their award-winnin

because they're believing the mcmichaels and the mcmichaels are liars. did he try to help the mcmichaels? no. >> i'm not going to -- evidence in this case you. i'm sorry, chris. that's just the way it is. i'm sorry if you were misled. >> no, no, no. >> good night. >> well, you have a good night, mr. gough. know this, if you can't answer the simple questions, people will come to simple conclusions. i appreciate you taking the opportunity. whether or not you made the most of it is up to the audience. i'm going to end it here. >> have a gd night. >> listen, these are simple questions. does he have to answer them? of course, not. you can wait for trial. if you want to come don aon and your guy did nothing wrong, deserves a speedy trial. nothing about this case is speedy. dozens of days with the videotape, gbi, own state's prosecutors say what, plenty of probable cause, no brainer. 70-plus days went buy. that's where speedy justice comes into play, not what mr. gough is arguing right now because this process has just been going. a reasonable amount of time. w

police report says gregory mcmichael stated he and his father tried to cut arbery off twice and mcmichaelther man, william roddy brian, in a separate vehicle, tried to block him, but all were unsuccessful. eventually, father and son used their truck to block his path. travis mcmichael is on the street holding a shotgun as arbery approaches at a jogger's pace. roddy brian catches video of the encounter. after three shots, a wounded arbery stumbles and dies in the street. brian shares the video with police that day. >> the first or the second officer on the scene, you know, he invites him to sit in his car. and they watch the video together. >> according to jay peter murphy who has spoken to officers who were on the scene that day, police call the district attorney's office for advice. the same office where gregory mcmichael had worked for years. >> i believe there was direction from the district attorney's office to not execute arrests. >> reporter: that all changed may 7th. but even with the arrests, public frustration continues. many want those responsible for handling the case in the be

out the mcmichaels were telling the truth about that or not. either one could be true. right now my reporting does -- does tell me that bryan is not a suspect right now. >> mm-hmm. >> he is considered a witness. that can change and happens all the time. and it is also true but for this tape, don, this would have been almost certainly a miscarriage of justice. >> absolutely. >> and there never would have been anything. so this isn't about condemning bryan or not. >> it's about getting to the truth. >> and it'sing about figuring something else that mcmichael said in that report that you pointed out very rightly. the mcmichaels clearly in their head during the moments immediately following their murder of ahmaud arbery, a sense that they knew who he was and that they had reason to believe that he was connected to crimes. now, let me tell you why that's so important. not because it excuses what they did. because it doesn't. but it may provide the groundwork for a prosecution against them explaining why they did something so wrong. >> yeah. and thei

in the span of seven seconds there is a struggle between arbery and travis mcmichael. gunshots go off and arbery collapses. the third district attorney on the case after the first two recused themselves says after a full review of the evidence, the shooting should now be presented to a grand jury. >> they inserted themselves in his path with using -- wielding weapons, and he had no other choice but to clash with them and he was killed. >> reporter: the father gregory mcmichael is an ex-cop and former investigator with the local d.a.'s office. he and his son have not been charged. at the time of the shooting gregory mcmichael told investigators he thought arbery was a burglary suspect and ordered him to stop claiming his son got out of the truck and then arbery began to attack him. a lawyer says the mcmichaels are using a citizens arrest statute in georgia to justify the shooting. >> what my client was told, the mother of ahmaud arbery was that he was involved in a burglary and that the homeowner deadly force to stop him. obviously that's not what happened. >> reporter:

the mcmichaels told police they thought arbery was connected to possible break-ins in the neighborhood. nearly 2 1/2 months passed before both were charged with murder and aggravated assault. >> my son was killed and the people that could help was not helping me. >> reporter: state authorities are joining federal investigators looking into the actions of two local prosecutors who removed themselves from the investigation because of apparent connections to the mcmichaels. >> steve, thank you. >>> and this evening, many eyes on the supreme court. deba debate over the d fincial recor. in three hours of arguments, the justices asked where is the line between oversight and political harassment? but it seems they cited jones' civil case, it was decided it could move forward while bill clinton was president. >>> when we come back, the deadly plane crash. trying to land on a busy street. the images, in a moment. but what we can do it be a partner that never quits. verizon is the most reliable network in america. built for interoperability and puts first responders first, giving their calls pri